My Jupiter rebuild

[dozerII]

Re: My Jupiter rebuild

Your right AJ that transom looks in real good shape so far, all the ones I have taken out were in no where near as good of shape.

 

[lakelover]

Re: My Jupiter rebuild

The transom actually looks pretty good to me. Having gone this far, what I might do is take it out and really check it over. If it's good, I'd probably apply some epoxy resin and paint and that should preserve it for a good long time, and not add too much to the thickness so you could get it back in easily. If it's lasted this long untreated, that's pretty good. You know to especially check the integrity around any through-holes & goop it up with 5200 anywhere something goes through it.

Keep up the good work!

 

[InMotion]

Re: My Jupiter rebuild

The transom actually looks pretty good to me. Having gone this far, what I might do is take it out and really check it over. If it's good, I'd probably apply some epoxy resin and paint and that should preserve it for a good long time, and not add too much to the thickness so you could get it back in easily. If it's lasted this long untreated, that's pretty good. You know to especially check the integrity around any through-holes & goop it up with 5200 anywhere something goes through it.

Keep up the good work!

Agreed. The top of the corners are the suspect areas there.... also take a look at the bottom of the corners, I have found that they tend to go soft as well --- especially as the top corners look a tad soft. Overall though really pretty good.

J.

 

[AJGeorge]

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Well guys the spashwell had to come out, there was just no getting any leverage on thoose slotted screw heads and keeping a wrench on the nuts. As it was I still couldn't get three of them out so I had to grind the heads off and punch them thru to the inside. But after that a couple scrap 2x6's screwed to the transom and the big hammer and it was out. The transom was in ok shape but not great and alot of holes so I'll put a new one in. Inmotion the port side top corner was soft but that was the one missing the corner cap other side was pretty good

 

[lakelover]

Re: My Jupiter rebuild

Agreed, time to replace that transom board! Could be worse but might as well be better.

 

[AJGeorge]

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Today was pretty productive. Started out moving the boat out of the garage then pulling the truck in to change oil and some other maintenance items. Then got the pressure washer out and got the inside of the hull cleaned out, and the limber holes all flowing. I think I am ready to get it off the trailor and flip it over for sanding and paint. I work Sunday but am off Monday so that might happen. Would really like to be able to start sanding by next weekend.

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: My Jupiter rebuild

Nice and clean. Your side trays don't appear to have any glue residue. Usually they're a holy mess.

 

[AJGeorge]

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Nice and clean. Your side trays don't appear to have any glue residue. Usually they're a holy mess.

GA I was fortunate that there wasn't any residue from the carpet or side panels, i've seen some bad ones also. But I do have the transom skin that looks like swiss cheese

 

[GA_Boater]

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I think it's easier to fix holes than get that old glue off. :blue:

 

[AJGeorge]

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Hi guys, well this was a pretty good weekend. I actually made progress with the boat and went into work for 6 hours today, a little overtime is a good thing. I got the boat off the trailer without any problems and couple friends came by and shazam, another Starcraft turtled. Its now resting on moving dolly's from HF so I can push it out in the drive while sanding on it. After work today I started sanding and now have a few questions. On the bare aluminum I believe i should be using some Zinc Chromate primer, Is ZC the same as the self etching primer I saw in Wally world today in the auto section with there body work stuff. It was made by Rustoleum. It looks like there is only one coat of white paint over the original cream colored hull, alot of the white is coming off but some is pretty stubborn. I plan to just remove the loose stuff then smooth and fair the rest. What kind of primer do I use at that point. Anyway I hope to be painting by next weekend. Gonna use the Rustoleum and roll it on. That should keep me busy all this week. Here are a few more pics, hope you enjoy them

 

[dozerII]

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Nice progress AJ, I have always used Rustoleum product, ie: Self etching primer, over the bare aluminum, then Ruto Pro grey primer, then the Rusto Pro color. I thin both the primer and the color with acetone as per WoodonGlass's recomendation, with great results.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: My Jupiter rebuild

Just don't use Rustoleum's "aluminum primer" as it appears to be latex which I just can't imagine working well on a boat.

 

[lakelover]

Re: My Jupiter rebuild

On my interior, I used Rusto Marine Metal primer over old, sound paint, then top coated with Rusto Marine enamel. It's pretty durable stuff. In some spots where I have scratched or chipped the surface with tools etc., the primer underneath was unaffected.

The thing I found about Rusto's top coatings is that it takes a lot longer to really cure hard than any literature indicates, I'd say my interior took a month to get really hard. Maybe if you added a hardener, that would likely improve.

The stuff I used is alkyd based: http://www.rustoleumibg.com/images/tds/CBG_TDS%20Marine%20Primer%201207.pdf

 

[AJGeorge]

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Ok guys thanks for the replies. I know that I have read these things in all your projects but sometimes I start looking for those answers in there I end up reading all about the whole project again and forgot what I was actually looking for. So I really do appreciate you taking the time to reply. A few simple concise answers just bring it all together for me. Anyway yesterday I got a couple more hous of sanding done and will do the same today. Tomorrow I will go shopping for the primer and will probably need more sanpaper by then. Correct me if I am wrong but I think you all used some like 240 grit paper om your final sanding before primer. Lakelover I had seen ads for the Rusto marine paints but have never seen them stocked anywhere here. Maybe the next boat I will be more prepared and order stuff ahead of time. HaHA. I will have to go with what I can get locally. I really want to get the primer on this weekend and will try to stay with all Rustoleum products. EZ thanks for telling about the aluminum primer being latex, that is something I could have missed in the fine print ya know. Dozer did you roll yours or spray? I plan to roll it on. I will check on Woodonglass's thoughts on that. Hey thanks and everybody take care.

 

[dozerII]

Re: My Jupiter rebuild

I tried the roll and tip method and gave up on it. I now spray everything, much easier and better results.

 

[Bwana Don]

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Welcome to the Tinhoarders Association. On bare aluminum I use Zinc Chromate, it comes in green or yellow. Guaranteed to stick to bare aluminum, it's the best. I rolled my 12 footer. it looks pretty good, spray may be easier though. I rolled and rolled, my next I'll try to spray. The roll and roll method is pretty good, as with anything there is a learning curve lol.

Good luck
Don

 

[lakelover]

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Lakelover I had seen ads for the Rusto marine paints but have never seen them stocked anywhere here.

You're right, I couldn't find them locally either. I went online to DoitBest.com - The World's Largest Hardware Store? and ordered the stuff from there. The ship-to-store is free if you have a local hardware store that is affiliated with that site, there's a place you can put in your zip code and find that out. I was lucky & had one a few miles from my house, but it did take about a week to arrive.

I tried the roll and tip method and gave up on it. I now spray everything, much easier and better results.

On bare aluminum I use Zinc Chromate, it comes in green or yellow. Guaranteed to stick to bare aluminum, it's the best. I rolled my 12 footer. it looks pretty good, spray may be easier though. I rolled and rolled, my next I'll try to spray. The roll and roll method is pretty good, as with anything there is a learning curve lol.

Agree with both. Roll & roll worked out pretty well for me, and as with most things, by the time I was finishing up, I was getting pretty good at it! :facepalm: I've seen some great results on here with spraying and I'd like to try it, but that would be too much of an investment for me in something I probably wouldn't use for anything else.

 

[ezmobee]

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Roll & roll came out looking awesome and like it was sprayed on my boat. Our Lowes has (at least at times) stocked the Rustoleum Marine paint but it was always on an endcap display or something, not with the rest of the Rusto. You don't really need the marine though, I think it's been debated whether there was anything really special about it anyway.

 

[lakelover]

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You don't really need the marine though, I think it's been debated whether there was anything really special about it anyway.

Also agreed, next time I would use Rusto's best enamel, not the spendy Marine topside. Probably the same stuff with a different label. I would use the marine primer, however, if only because I've had good results with it.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: My Jupiter rebuild

I would use the marine primer, however, if only because I've had good results with it.

Me too, or any primer for that matter :facepalm:

If I had mine to do again (and I sure wish my interior would vanish so I could flip the boat again and start over) I would strip and leave the bottom bare!