Micheal Jackson

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DJ

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Link wrote:<br /><br />
Dont get me wrong DJ if called I would do jury duty.. but I would not like to. But I would never be selected anyway.<br />
Link,<br /><br />We're on the same page. The system is BROKEN.<br /><br />Lawyers making laws for lawyers. With insulation from a "dumbed down" contigency. It wasn't meant to be this way. :(
 

McGR

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EFHenry mentioned riots. I was giving this some thought while listening to the news... Will the African American community really riot on this guys(?) behalf. Or would they rather disassociate themselves from him as the rest of us do? Interesting scenario...
 

McGR

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I should read all the posts first... looks like dogsdad had the same opinion as I.
 

Nos4r2

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Somehow I can't imagine MJ's fans rioting...<br /><br />Oh wait, yes I can. It'd be one of the funniest things I'd ever see. Imagine 2000 gullible sad cases moonwalking down the street trying in vain to look menacing...<br /><br />You KNOW they're BAD ;)
 

davemaxi1970

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Personally I think wacko is just a screwed up madman I hope he's found innocent of abuse and the boys parents locked up for perjury ,I hear he has sold neverland for $19 mil ,I hope he buys a nice room with comfy walls and a jacket with long,long arms ,he is nuts let the men in white coats deal with him
 

JB

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I agree that the system does not work ideally, David, but it is still the best system in the history of civilization.<br /><br />It is too much about winning and not enough about justice. I've said that before.<br /><br />You are probably right that it takes money to win and poor folks often get the short end of justice as well as the short end of "winning".<br /><br />Given that rich folks, or folks who get the attention of the media, get a more even playing field with publicity and vote hungry prosecutors (remember, they are politicians and bureaucrats as well as lawyers) they win more often than poor folks. That doesn't necessarily mean they "get off". It merely means they won.<br /><br />O.J. is an excellent case study. He got good enough lawyers that the prosecution had to PROVE he did it. They failed. That doesn't mean he didn't do it; it merely means they failed to prove it.<br /><br />So far, the Innocence Project, with good lawyers, has proved the innocence of over 70 people convicted of rape and/or murder, including many condemned. I think that makes your case. . . and mine, too.<br /><br />Small town lawyers and public defenders are often rookies put in the arena with major league heavy hitters. Not fair in my view, but how does one fix that?
 

FLATHEAD

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Even if he is found innocent of molestation they should give him time just for being STUPID!!!! HELLO!! A GROWN MAN DOES NOT SLEEP IN THE SAME BED AS YOUNG BOYS!!!! I dont feel sorry for him one bit even if he is innocent, he left himself wide open for this to happen to him.
 

davemaxi1970

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JB spot on as usual ,but is this an American thing? weve had lots of politians sent down for lying in court and stars sent down fo child porn and abuse and money did not save them in fact I think the fact they could influense others led to harder treatment :rolleyes:
 

demsvmejm

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Dave, Yes this is an American thing if what you say about your home country's judicial system is as fair as it seems. In America, if you are wealthy, you can hire the best attorneys and get the best treatment, or at least get tt take advantage of the technicalities and loopholes.<br /><br />And JB, jus tmore of what I was commending. You state your point and then very eloquently support it. I enjoy reading your posts.<br /><br />I would like to serve as a juror too, but probably would not be allowed, as I have certain views of obligations to society being more important than oneself and one's wants. I mean you have an obligation to society to act in a certain manner, regardless of what you want or what pleases you. That is how society becomes civilized. Idealic I know, but where would America be if the founding father's did not pledge their personal lives, liberties reputations and fortunes to the ideas set forth by them in our country's founding documents? Obligations ot society.
 

JB

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I sympathize with your outrage, Flahthead, but that isn't against the law. You can't convict anyone for doing something that isn't against the law.<br /><br />If doing something stupid was against the law we would probably all be in the slammer.
 

FSHKPR

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i gotta agree with jb too, not sure the guy is guilty or just plain wierd, so that means i also agree flahthead. the guy makes my skin crawl also. not to mention sick to my stomach.
 

Elmer Fudge

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Well the verdict is finally in,<br />Jacko you're free to go, <br />he was found not guilty on all 10 counts.
 

QC

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Can I still vote? :D <br /><br />What a flippin' dumba$$, wacko, idiot, pervert, freak!!! OK, that felt good.<br /><br />But I love our system that allowed both him AND OJ off. Flawed, of course, perfection is impossible. But our system usually looks out first for the innocent, which means some people, who deserve to be strung up by their Harold Paratestes, walk . . . This makes it beautiful, not the opposite.
 

TilliamWe

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I can't believe there were 21 people on here that thought he would be convicted?!
 
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