Marijuana-legalize and tax

[ZmOz]

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If you guys cannot see the difference between marijuana use and other crimes I truely feel sorry for you. <br /><br />Comparing marijuana to other illegal things is completely asinine.

 

[alden135]

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Originally posted by ZmOz:<br /> <br /><br />Comparing marijuana to other illegal things is completely asinine.

It's all a matter of perspective now isn't it.<br /><br />In the spirit of JB's rules on insults I will not ask if you are on crack, rather I believe that your position resembles that of one who may be on crack.

 

[QC]

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Z's choice of words was a little poor, but I actually agree with him. The analogies don't stack up.<br /><br />Comparing crack cocaine use which is proven to be seriously addictive, to marijuana, is like comparing an unlimited hydroplane to a canoe. Yes, they both float . . .

 

[ZmOz]

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Originally posted by alden:<br />It's all a matter of perspective now isn't it.

No, it isn't. <br /><br />Crack is highly, highly addictive. This causes users to do ANYTHING to get more. Not true with marijuana.<br /><br />Crack is highly damaging to your body. Not true with marijuana.<br /><br />Crack is easily overdosed on. Marijuana is impossible to overdose by smoking or eating.<br /><br />Crack is made from many nasty and poisonous man made chemicals. Marijuana is a plant.<br /><br />If you can't see the difference I'm not going to waste my time arguing about it.<br /><br />If someone is against marijuana I have no problem with that, but I want to see some actual facts/good reasons to support your opinion. I haven't seen any of that yet.<br /><br />Remember that two police officers in this thread alone have said they think it should be legal.

 

[txswinner]

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Alright you "Right Wingers" think about this.<br /><br />Illegal alcohol made the Kennedy family wealthy.<br />Keep Pot illegal and maybe next time Ted Kennedy will be President. Maybe now you will agree to legalize before he gets in the white house!!!!!!

 

[Kalian]

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The point was that it's a lesser evil, but it's an evil none the less.<br /> There are a lot more issues at stake besides whether weed is harmful or not. It's setting legal precedence for the next drug they want to legalize. You also have to worry about how much easier is it going to be for the kids to get it, since there WILL be more users if it's legalized. You won't eliminate many drug dealers, they might not be selling weed anymore but they'll still be selling all the other crap. Or maybe they'll just lowball the govs price and keep selling. You might just end up making it cheaper on the street, thus easier for the kids to get. And there are other isues to consider too.

 

[ZmOz]

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It really cannot get any easier for kids to get than it is now. Every single kid that wants to try it already does. It's already plentiful and cheap. I could have smoked many, many times per month completely free in high school just bumming it from friends. I actually found some on the ground more than once at school.<br /><br />According to the whitehouse, 45% of people have already used marijuana by the time they get to 12th grade. Not many more than that are interested in using it.

 

[Kalian]

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"According to the whitehouse, 45% of people have already used marijuana by the time they get to 12th grade. Not many more than that are interested in using it."<br /><br /> Well, if you're gonna use the whitehouse as source, it's only fair to post the rest of what they say about marijuana. You don't gain any credence by posting select info that suits your needs from a source you discredit because you don't like the rest of the statistics they post.

 

[pjc]

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Consider this.....folks who drink booze do so for the buzz. Any one care to dispute that???????<br /><br />Folks who smoke a bowl, or whatever, do so for the buzz. Any one care to dispute that????????<br /><br />Some claim they coddle their Scotch. Siping Booze they claim.<br /><br />Some will take a toke, good chit, gonna hold it a while they claim.<br /><br />Some do lots a shots a booze...the parties on my friend, want some????<br /><br />Want a bong Man?????<br /><br />Bottom line is ALL this stuff is an intoxicant. What the heck is the difference, 'ceptin what the Law says and as well what the business lobbies fund to protect their products.

 

[ZmOz]

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Originally posted by Kalian:<br /> Well, if you're gonna use the whitehouse as source, it's only fair to post the rest of what they say about marijuana. You don't gain any credence by posting select info that suits your needs from a source you discredit because you don't like the rest of the statistics they post.

No, it isn't, because the rest of their information is BS and any reasonable person can see that. I'm sure their statistics are fairly accurate, but comparing them in the way they do is just ridiculous.<br /><br />You never answered me last time. Do you seriously think the white house is a credible source of ANY information?<br /><br />Any smart person looking for facts will try to find them from more than one unbiased source. You're getting your facts from a single and very biased source. I wouldn't trust any facts from the whitehouse about the Iraq war either, because anybody can see there is no source that is more biased than they are, no matter which side of the war you're on. If you seriously think that is a credible source of information I'm not going to waste my time arguing with somebody who doesn't know what they are talking about.<br /><br />You'll find that every single fact I post is supported by multiple unbiased sources. If you can find any of my facts that are not, please point them out so that I can provide those sources.

 

[demsvmejm]

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The problem I see with taxing it is th eability for an idividual to grow it themselves. And I think this is one of the biggest reasons the government won't entertain legalizing it.

 

[Kalian]

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You know Oz, we did this in the last thread too. But when I started looking up all the sources posted they were mostly cut and paste web sites. With all the same info, stats and sources. I would like to see unbiased reports too but there not gonna come from sites whose stated mission is to legalize pot. I'd call that a biased source, just as much as the whitehouse could be biased. What I'd like to see is the actual medical reports. I'm kinda cynical, especialy when it comes to data from the internet. <br /> I do understand your point about bias from the whitehouse, however. But you need to convince me your sources aren't just as biased.<br /> You still have all the other issues to deal with. It's bad enough we have all the drunks to deal with, why make things worse? I think I'm done here, I don't have time to the dance we did last time. I'm gonna go vote on your other thread and then I'm done with the pot issue.

 

[Link]

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Man I cant believe this tread/troll is still alive.<br />POT <br />Lets all do a group hug.. then take another couple tokes.. Cool! You all are to uptight! Need to relax.. here I rolled another joint.. this time inhale and hold your breath!<br />Isnt the world a better place now! Fuzzy fuzzy.. yea man I think so.. <br /><br />Drugs are Drugs.<br /><br />I could have used Alcohol in place of Pot and said drink vrs toke.. same outcome..<br /><br />Some Abuse.. Some dont!<br />Where do you draw the line?

 

[FLATHEAD]

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I have enjoyed reading this thread. Maybe we could use the tax revenue to fund the rehabs for those that screw up their lives by being a stoned all the time. Whattaya think?<br />.<br /><br />. Below is all the facts you will ever need to see the long term affects of pot smoking..<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />..<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.Poor guy don't know which way to turn.<br />.<br />.<br />

 

[rwise]

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bottom line is it will not be legal cause the MOB doesn't wont it to be legal! They make to much money on it the way it is,

 

[PierBridge]

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News Flash.....UMMM....if Mary Jane were legalized and Sold by our Goverment...LOL....it would have NO impact what so ever on the Illegal Marijuana business, Our Government already grows crap Pot and like most things our Government attempts to do this would end up a disaster also.<br /><br />The Criminals plain and simple will always have a better product for less money.<br /><br />Adults 21 years of age should be able to use Marijuana.....

 

[ZmOz]

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Originally posted by PierBridge:<br /> News Flash.....UMMM....if Mary Jane were legalized and Sold by our Goverment...LOL....it would have NO impact what so ever on the Illegal Marijuana business, Our Government already grows crap Pot and like most things our Government attempts to do this would end up a disaster also.<br /><br />The Criminals plain and simple will always have a better product for less money.<br /><br />Adults 21 years of age should be able to use Marijuana.....

"Our government" would have no part in the growing or selling of it except to say who can buy and sell it and to collect their 95% of the profits.

 

[tomatolord]

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PJC has it right<br /><br />booze, paxil, painkillers, pot...<br /><br />Does not matter what people will use and abuse..<br /><br />Neighbor was complaining about the cost of his GALLON of scotch a week costs...<br /><br />The pot users I know are in 2 camps - casual and hard core - The hard core ARE addicted if they cant get they will spend the next 3 days calling each other to find "it" <br /><br />Here in NC they passed the laws to say "impaired" because people were driving on all sorts of drugs legal and illegal and killing people. Here the cops just look in your eyes - they can tell.<br /><br />Bad for your health? How can any smoke inhaled deeply and held into your lungs be good for you?<br /><br />Did I smoke it - yeah - not anymore in fact when I am around people who do smoke and then I dont - they act weird as if I am going to tell on them or something - <br />do I drink yes - but I dont get hammered (although it is funny how many of the people I know walk around claiming that everyone else is the drunk except for them)<br /><br />Stoners think that no one else can tell when they are stoned - but the sad truth is - just like a drunk - you can tell when they are stoned and when they are not...<br /><br />I have another neighbor that is a plumber and at first he was telling his friends what a great job it was because you could be stoned all day and do your job - that was until the day he was working on a job and forgot to turn the water off and cut into a pipe and nearly fried himself on the job. <br /><br />I say keep it like it is a low priority on the criminal scale....<br /><br />tomatolord

 

[magster65]

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Originally posted by David L. Moore:<br /> The problem I see with taxing it is th eability for an idividual to grow it themselves. And I think this is one of the biggest reasons the government won't entertain legalizing it.

Exactly!