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I think its a bad idea, it would encourage it, and lets face it, it really has no "positive" effect on people.<br /><br />I'm in Junor in a techincal highschool, the school is maybe 75% guys, no rich kids, everyones from working class familys. TONS of kids in my school smoke weed, and I'm sorry, the all the kids who smoke are just the stupid kids. None of the kids who stand out as being smart, or skilled smoke week.<br /><br />I have quite a bit of friends who smoke, I don't give people a hard time about it or try to run their lives, but its stupid. Like somone said, they just "chill" a group of kids in my shop spend all the their spair time "chilling" on a street corner, its pathetic, every time I stop by they are standing in the cold doing nothing. They spend every dime they can get ahold of on weed, and the rest on the time doing NOTHING. They all have no disire to get a job, licence, car, nothing. Its sad.<br /><br />I can honestley say that I have never tried weed, and from the experence I have with others who do it, I see no reason to.
 

wildbill59

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Oh, what was I going to say, I forgot. Oh yea , that war on drugs, when will it be over? And I don't inhale either.
 

Kalian

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Hey Ryan! thats encouraging to hear from you. I tried it when I was young and I thought I was all cool and all that, but it's really not worth the hype. Don't waste your time or money on it because it just isn't worth it.<br /> By the way, some people say that weed doesn't hurt you. But I've seen what it does. My buddy was hopelesly addicted to it. He smoked it like cigaretes, (his uncle was a dealer and sold it to him really cheap.) He had NO short term memory left, anytime he would set something down (like keys or wallet on a counter or table) he would forget about it, and then spend a half hour trying to find it. He was always looking for something he lost, never kept appointments, dropped out of college and eventually wrapped his car around a telephone pole, and that was the end of him. I've also seen the stoners at highschool and college, and they never did anything except get stoned and hang out. Now, it might not affect everyone that same way, but affects a significant amount of people that way. <br /> And by the way, the war on drugs might not be working right now, but we're probably a lot better off now than we would be if we never had it.
 

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Personaly I don't see too much of a problem in legalizing it, but ONLY if it is regulated extemely well. A lot of the effects are similar to those of alchohol, including stuff like memory loss etc. To me if people want to do it, ITS THEIR CHOICE if they want to risk any of the consequences wether they are valid results of smoking it or not. <br /><br />I know a lot of people who smoke it, and some of them are pretty intelligent people, so dont get caught up in believing only stupid people do it. The fact is it doesnt affect all people the same. I tried it twice, and it didnt do anything either time. I have other friends with that expirience as well. I would like to see more testing as to how it affects people over the short and long term before it would be legalized.
 

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Well, here in Canada...especially on the west coast, everyone is very lax about it. <br />People walk down streets smoking joints and no-one really cares too much about it. <br />The cops here have some kind of test to see if you have been smoking and driving(I'm not sure if it is a blood test or whatever, but I did hear something about it on the news). <br />We have the political Marijuana Party(www.marijuanaparty.com) and it is just a matter of time before it is legalized. <br /><br />As some other noted, it is just a faze that MOST people out-grow. <br />I say "to each their own".<br /><br />B.C.
 

magster65

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I can vouch for what brother chris says... all true. We have a large percentage of users on the west coast and of course they all want it legalized. It's only a matter of time now.<br />
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Originally posted by wildbill59:<br /> Oh, what was I going to say, I forgot. Oh yea , that war on drugs, when will it be over? And I don't inhale either.
Wow Man, I hear ya! Dont bogart that ....wudda say dude? ;)
 

theriver

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You shouldn't be surprised DJ, it helps me as I'm going through Chemotherapy. I spent 34 years and never did an "illegal" drug in my life. In the past 6 months, yes-weed has helped me out a great deal over and above what the oncologists prescribed.<br />Besides I'll be on medication for the rest of my life that will preclude me from drinking. A bit of weed in certain social settings is perfectly legitimate I think.<br /><br />Anyway, back on topic, weed should be legal IMO. Bikers and other organized crime are getting rich and causing violence over it. Why not just let the Government make the profit. In the mean time, people run the risk of buying contaminated drugs or being in the wrong place at the wrong time trying to buy and getting hurt or killed.<br /><br />In the meantime, I'll just grow my own.<br />;-)
 

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Back in High school, we used to laugh at the kids that did drugs. Their description of a weekend was something like " wow, we got a joint and got high".....meanwhile we talked about actualy doing something and having real fun. Sad thing is, now we talk about our accomplishments....they are still saying the same thing....wow man, we got stonned....I don't remember this weekend.....
 

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Its been here as long as its been around,this and grundy county use to be one of the biggest growers of pot in the nation,and its still here.but the dam meth has taken over and you here alot less about pot.i still say leglize it and tax it.<br /><br />OZ you talking about BUDS?
 

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$2-300/ ounce.... I quit when it went from $35 to 40/ounce.<br /><br /> I also know business people that smoke it for breakfast, lunch, and supper and none of them act like Leo.<br /><br /> brother chris, I zig-zaged all through my mind trying to figure out where I seen your avatar before. :D
 

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Medical information that might be of interest:<br /><br />Marijuana is not addictive, it may be habit forming as can be eating, sex and numerous other habits. Addictive means the body reacts when not used and that is not the case in Marijuana.<br /><br />Most HS kids have tried Marijuana, cigarettes and alcohol. It is not probable that legalization would result in a great increase in use.<br /><br />I am totally for providing it free of charge to all inmates in prison. No more fights man just love and flowers.
 

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Originally posted by txswinner:<br />Most HS kids have tried Marijuana, cigarettes and alcohol. It is not probable that legalization would result in a great increase in use.
I agree. The fact that it's illegal now doesn't really stop anybody that wants to try it. When I was in HS, weed was easier to get than alcohol...
 

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Originally posted by ZmOz:<br />When I was in HS, weed was easier to get than alcohol...
What an excellent point. My experience exactly. Party on, Wayne!
 

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I just wish people would stop saying there are no bad affects or after affects from the use of pot. Long term studies show that there are lots of permanant problems caused by long term use of pot.
 

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Originally posted by Mark42:<br /> I just wish people would stop saying there are no bad affects or after affects from the use of pot. Long term studies show that there are lots of permanant problems caused by long term use of pot.
Bulls***! Not one study has ever concluded that there are any long term effects from marijuana!<br /><br />Smoking anything is extremely unhealthy and there's a good chance it will kill you, but you don't have to smoke pot. ;) <br /><br /> http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/ <br /><br />MYTH: MARIJUANA'S HARMS HAVE BEEN PROVED SCIENTIFICALLY. In the 1960s and 1970s, many people believed that marijuana was harmless. Today we know that marijuana is much more dangerous than previously believed.<br /><br />FACT: In 1972, after reviewing the scientific evidence, the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse concluded that while marijuana was not entirely safe, its dangers had been grossly overstated. Since then, researchers have conducted thousands of studies of humans, animals, and cell cultures. None reveal any findings dramatically different from those described by the National Commission in 1972. In 1995, based on thirty years of scientific research editors of the British medical journal Lancet concluded that "the smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to health."
 

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Originally posted by Quietcat22:<br />
Originally posted by ZmOz:<br />When I was in HS, weed was easier to get than alcohol...
What an excellent point. My experience exactly. Party on, Wayne!
Very true. And just remember, prohibition of alchohol is what got the mob REALLY going in this country. The same thing has happened with MJ.<br /><br />I personally don't think it should be marketed though. Allow people to grow it in their home for personal use only. Growing mass fields of it like they do tobacco would raise the health risks significantly with all the pesticides and such that are used. Most cancer causing chemicals in cigarettes are from whats put on it, not the plant itself. <br /><br />Put a restriction on weight or plant #'s or something to that effect. And have a MJ inspector inspect the grow area every so often to make sure you're not trying overgrow your house with pot. All this could be paid for with the money they get from the growers license you have to buy every year, or the government could even go into the business of selling the equipment to the licensed grower at a slight profit and make it a license requirement that your equipment has to be bought from them.<br /><br />Granted I thought this up in about 3 minutes and it's filled with holes, but given some serious thought, I can't believe that it would be too hard to figure out how to make it available to those who want it, and have it worthwhile to the government too.
 

mrbscott19

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Originally posted by ZmOz:<br />
Originally posted by Mark42:<br /> I just wish people would stop saying there are no bad affects or after affects from the use of pot. Long term studies show that there are lots of permanant problems caused by long term use of pot.
Bulls***! Not one study has ever concluded that there are any long term effects from marijuana!<br /><br />Smoking anything is extremely unhealthy and there's a good chance it will kill you, but you don't have to smoke pot. ;) <br /><br /> http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/ <br /><br />MYTH: MARIJUANA'S HARMS HAVE BEEN PROVED SCIENTIFICALLY. In the 1960s and 1970s, many people believed that marijuana was harmless. Today we know that marijuana is much more dangerous than previously believed.<br /><br />FACT: In 1972, after reviewing the scientific evidence, the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse concluded that while marijuana was not entirely safe, its dangers had been grossly overstated. Since then, researchers have conducted thousands of studies of humans, animals, and cell cultures. None reveal any findings dramatically different from those described by the National Commission in 1972. In 1995, based on thirty years of scientific research editors of the British medical journal Lancet concluded that "the smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to health."
Nixon actually had a someone make a report on the dangers of MJ. Might even be the same commission from the above post. The reports conclusion was that it should be legalized. Nixon was so pissed that he threw the report in the trash.<br /><br /><br />God made pot, man made beer. Who do you trust?
 

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I think crack cocaine should be legalized. All they need to do are put age restrictions on it and develop a test to judge impairment. Lots of people smoke crack even though it's illegal. Since banning it doesn't work, they should just start selling it at Walgreen's.
 

Kalian

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Lol, good one Alden. Here's another one. Since burglary and asault are not as bad as murder, and people still do it even though it's illegal, we should legalize burglary and asault. Just think of the huge drop in crime we would experience!
 
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