Lloyd Bentsen

artburr

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To 18rabbit who said: "The Democrat party in America IS the communist party." Me thinks that you should change your moniker to "rabid".
 

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TXS, I have written nothing that any other member couldn't write. What name have I called PW2?<br /><br />If I break the rules I will be moderated by other mods. Count on that.<br /><br />Your whining about being bullied by "authority" when you troll with your extreme left drivel gets old.
 

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I wouldn't call the Democratic party Communist but they are most certainly Socialist. The difference, IMO, is that the Communist system takes in ALL revenue and pays it out to the underlings. The Socialist system taxes all revenue above a certain amount and redistributes the wealth to others who haven't earned it so that all citizens enjoy the same benefits.<br /><br />I've never met a Democrat who didn't see a tax he didn't like!
 

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"I have as much experience in the Congress as Jack Kennedy did when he sought the presidency."
Quayle was running for the VP position and answering critics who said he was too young and inexperienced. He never said he was JFK, he never claimed to be the next JFK, he simply pointed out that he had similar experience. What is so difficult to understand?
 

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I'm a Democrat and think that Quayle had a few loose screws but Benson's famous remark was uncalled for. I was disappointed in him.
 

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Originally posted by LadyFish:<br /> Me thinks somebody tee tee'd in PW's Cheerio's this mornin. :eek: ;) :p :D
I'm sure that it wasn't just this morning. :p
 

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Originally posted by txswinner:<br /> ... I believe you really want to call Democrats socialist not communist but based on your continued name calling who knows.
I promised that if you stuck around we would get you straighten out before the next election. Here’s your next lesson in political reality…<br /><br />Communism IS a form of socialism. And yes, as Crusty Dude points out, the Democrat party is extremely socialist, too.<br /><br />If a = c, and b = c, then a = b. Or put another way:<br /><br />If democrats are socialists, and communists are socialists, then democrats are communists.<br /><br />True communism has never been implemented. My understanding is the closest thing to it was the failed gov’t of communist Russia/CCCP. They failed, they learned. And you will have a chance to learn, too.<br /><br />When I say the Democrat party is the communist party in the United States, I mean their political ideals are the same, their goals are the same, and from as far as I have been able to tell, their platform and planks are identical.<br /><br />Anyone that disagrees with Democrats = Communists need do nothing more than educate me as to any difference between the two political parties. NOT the diff in their ideology, the diff in actual day to day political agendas. What are the parties' differences???<br /><br />(Hint: THERE IS NONE!!!)<br /><br />Txswinner - Part of the learning process includes occasional failure. Here’s your opportunity to fail, umm, I mean, learn. Please research and share with everyone here what the real difference is between the Democrat party and the Communist party. We’re waiting ...
 

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I'm really curious.<br /><br />Do you folks really want a one party system?<br /><br />Or a two party system with no discernable difference between the two?<br /><br />Both the congress and the senate are almost evenly split between dems and republicans. According to your analysis, we are being overrun by commies. <br /><br />Where's McCarthy when we need him?
 

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Originally posted by 18rabid:<br /> If democrats are socialists, and communists are socialists, then democrats are communists.<br />
.<br />Huh???<br />.<br /><br />If a dog is a mammal, and a cat is a mammal, then a dog is a cat???<br />.<br />What kind of lame reasoning is that?
 

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These remarks from the two of you raises my interest as to what you might have thought of Sam Rayburn, another I see as a by gone politician who was fiscally conservative but liberal on the rights side. <br /><br />_______________________________________________________________________<br /><br />Here is where we are at on the liberal rights side:<br /><br /><br /> NEW LAW COMING FROM CONGRESS -- AMERICANS WITH NO ABILITIES ACT<br /><br />WASHINGTON, DC - Congress is considering sweeping legislation, which provides new benefits for many Americans. The Americans With No Abilities Act<br />(AWNAA) is being hailed as a major legislation by advocates of the millions of Americans who lack any real skills or ambition.<br /><br />"Roughly 50 percent of Americans do not possess the competence and drive necessary to carve out a meaningful role for themselves in society," said Barbara Boxer. "We can no longer stand by and allow People of Inability to be ridiculed and passed over. With this legislation, employers will no longer be able to grant special favors to a small group of workers, simply because they do a better job, or have some idea of what they are doing."<br /><br />The President pointed to the success of the US Postal Service, which has a long-standing policy of providing opportunity without regard to performance.<br />Approximately 74 percent of postal employees lack job skills, making this agency the single largest US employer of Persons of Inability.<br /><br />Private sector industries with good records of nondiscrimination against the Inept include retail sales (72%), the airline industry (68%),and home improvement "warehouse" stores (65%) The DMV also has a great record of hiring Persons of Inability. (63%)<br /><br />Under the Americans With No Abilities Act, more than 25 million "middle man"<br />positions will be created, with important-sounding titles but little real responsibility, thus providing an illusory sense of purpose and performance.<br /><br />Mandatory non-performance-based raises and promotions will be given, to guarantee upward mobility for even the most unremarkable employees. The legislation provides substantial tax breaks to corporations which maintain a significant level of Persons of Inability in middle positions, and gives a tax credit to small and medium businesses that agree to hire one clueless worker for every two talented hires.<br /><br />Finally, the AWNA ACT contains tough new measures to make it more difficult to discriminate against the Nonabled, banning discriminatory interview questions such as "Do you have any goals for the future?" or "Do you have any skills or experience which relate to this job?"<br /><br />"As a Nonabled person, I can't be expected to keep up with people who have something going for them," said Mary Lou Gertz, who lost her position as a lug-nut twister at the GM plant in Flint, MI due to her lack of notable job skills. "This new law should really help people like me." With the passage of this bill, Gertz and millions of other untalented citizens can finally see a light at the end of the tunnel.<br /><br />Said Senator Ted Kennedy, "It is our duty as lawmakers to provide each and every American citizen, regardless of his or her adequacy, with some sort of space to take up in this great nation."<br /><br />Please contact your representative right away and let them know you support this act...that is, if you are able... <br /><br /><br />Thanks, mrlf<br /><br />I'm just here to lighten things up a little. :p
 

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I think we would be better off with a three or four party system.<br /><br />The two we currently have are too far apart on too many issues and the result is that nothing gets done about some important bills.<br /><br />There are what DJ calls RINOs and there are DINOs. . .people who approach issues without reading the party platform. Shouldn't they be identified differently?<br /><br />The problem with that is the realities of our campaign financing system. If you don't declare to be a Republican and toe the line you wont get any Republican money to run with. Same for the Democrats.<br /><br />We need a system in which Rodbolt can run for office on the Rodbolt platform without being buried under Republican or Democrat spending.
 

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___________________________________________<br />I'm a Democrat and think that Quayle had a few loose screws but Benson's famous remark was uncalled for. I was disappointed in him.<br />--------------------------------------------<br /><br />I just had to comment on this. This is the reason, all too often justified, that dems get the moniker "spineless"<br /><br />Quayle compared himself with JFK, and Benson simply pointed out the obvious, that Quayle was no JFK.<br /><br />What's to be disappointed with?<br /><br />It is politics. It is hardball. Just ask Karl Rove, or the Swift boat veterans.<br /><br />Now maybe in a perfect world, a more nuanced understanding of exactly what Quayle "really" meant would be nice...<br /><br />But ask John Kerry where "nuanced" views got him--or Al Gore, for that matter.<br /><br />Benson's comment was perfect. No one could confuse Quayle with JFK, and he pointed it out.<br /><br />Other dems, if they ever want to get elected, will avoid the nuanced views, and articulately say what they mean. Bill Clinton did. You either liked Bill Clinton or didn't, but there was no doubt where he stood, and not withstanding his incomprehensible sexual exploits, his accomplishments in office were impressive and he left office with a 60+ approval rating, in spite of his sexual wanderings.
 

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To claim that the democratic party is communist is equally stupid to claiming that the republican party is nazi.There is absolutely no justification for either.<br />Jb.There is a very basic drawback to the 3 or 4 party system and many countries suffer of it.<br />When the 2 major parties each have roughly 49% of the popular vote,then the 3th party with only 2% of the vote gains leverage power that is very far beyond its vote percentage.The 2 dominant parties will pander to the 2% party special interests in order to rule.At any given time 2% of the population can pull the plug.This can for instance be a party of religious zealots.
 

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Originally posted by rolmops:<br /> To claim that the democratic party is communist is equally stupid ...
Only to the ill-informed and uneducated. In America, the Democrat party is the same as the Communist party. 4 or 5 years ago I would not have believed it either. She-creature’s father is a life-long card-carrying pinko. Probably has an active FBI file. Woman remembers as a child her father having meetings in their home where a bunch of guys with goatees and goofy hats sat around talking about over throwing the gov’t and how the world was going to be a better place when totally commie, etc. He still thinks Castro is a demigod that can do no wrong, a great man repressed by the US.<br /><br />The pinko commie b@stard subscribes to a bunch of left wing political propaganda and has it ‘gift’ mailed to all of his relatives. I never before took the time to look into the Communist party so out of curiosity I started reading the Peoples Weekly World, the official news publication of the Communist party. Blew my socks off! The Communists and the Democrats are aligned exactly parallel!!! No discernable difference.<br /><br />Rolmops, please, bring me out of my ignorance. I am trainable, I can learn. Since you seem sure there is a diff between the Communists and the Democrats, what is it? On the other hand, you can also view this as an opportunity to being yourself out of ignorance…<br /><br />What’s it going to be, Rolmops?<br /><br />Art B – I read it… I.H.P. (interesting historical perspective) of American political parties. Has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of my post. Please get in touch with Rolmops. Perhaps your two heads will be better than one. The question both of you have failed to answer: what is the difference between the Democrat party and Communist party? Note: see "hint" in my post above.
 

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Rolmops - you, Art B, and any other (I'm guessing) democrat/communists can read the whole story at the Peoples Weekly World website. <br /><br /> http://www.pww.org/article/articleview/9215/1/323 <br /><br /> … In 2000 and 2004, YCL members fought to defeat George W. Bush and the ultra-right. The YCL played very important roles in local and national coalitions and in get-out-the-vote drives in Ohio, Missouri, Illinois, California, Texas, New York and across the country. <br /><br />Today, the YCL is in the forefront of the mass peace movement. It is a leading member of the National Youth and Student Peace Coalition and a steering committee member of United for Peace and Justice. The YCL and NYSPC have initiated annual “Books Not Bombs” campaigns on campuses nationwide. YCLers are active in the Student Labor Action Project supporting struggles of campus workers around the country, in the immigrant rights movement, and a host of other struggles. Its magazine Dynamic reflects the politics and culture of today’s youth movement.<br /><br />In this time of anti-corporate upsurge and youth activism, the YCL is working with student, community, labor, environmental, LGBT and all peace and social justice groups and coalitions to build a broad youth and student movement. <br /><br />Building on 84 years in the struggle, the YCL is looking ahead. The next 84 years are bound to be just as exciting, as it continues to struggle for equality, education, health care, union rights, voting rights, peace and socialism.<br /><br />*** YCL = Young Communist League
 

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Originally posted by PW2:<br /> I really get a kick out of Repubs. They get so incensed when a dem says anything that might not give the benefit of the doubt to the poor helpless repubican, and in the very same sentence equate all democrats to communists or worse. Gag Me!!!<br /><br />Can you really think that Quayle was the most qualified person to be VP? A guy that couldn't even spell potato?
Speaks for itself.
 

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18rabid.To relieve you of your ignorance requires for you to be open minded and I sense a problem there.I will give you one hint.In worldwar 2 communist Russia and capitalist USA both fought Nazi Germany.Did that make Russia capitalist? Did it make America communist?<br />I never new that the shadow of John Birch was that long.Have you checked the inside of your tv lately?There might be communists hiding inside.
 

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Atta boy 18R, right between the eyes with the proverbial 2x4. Today's Dems are not very good at the "If it looks like a duck, If it quacks like a duck, yada yada...."<br /><br />Rolmops, bad analogy to what 18R was saying. Here it is again, in a nutshell;<br /><br /> "Building on 84 years in the struggle, the YCL is looking ahead. The next 84 years are bound to be just as exciting, as it continues to struggle for equality, education, health care, union rights, voting rights, peace and socialism."<br /><br />The only difference between the YCL and the Dems is that today's Dems convieniently leave out the last word.
 

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Rolmops – Not talking about then … talking about NOW, TODAY!!!<br /><br />What is the difference between the Democrat party and the Communist party TODAY???<br /><br />Typical liberal democrat/communist (same thing) maneuver … don’t want to be seen for what they really are, trying to redirect to an unrelated subject to hide.<br /><br />Rolmops, YOU ARE FAILING!!! Please, just answer the simple question:<br /><br /> What is the difference between the Democrat party and the Communist party TODAY???
 
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