<br /><br />The follow is an excerpt from an article by CIA agent Larry Johnson;<br /><br />"Valerie Plame was a classmate of mine from the day she started with the CIA. I entered on duty at the CIA in September 1985. All of my classmates were undercover--in other words, we told our family and friends that we were working for other overt U.S. Government agencies. We had official cover. That means we had a black passport--i.e., a diplomatic passport. If we were caught overseas engaged in espionage activity the black passport was a get out of jail free card.<br /><br /><br />A few of my classmates, and Valerie was one of these, became a non-official cover officer. That meant she agreed to operate overseas without the protection of a diplomatic passport. If caught in that status she would have been executed."<br /><br />I'm just sorry Pointer that that wasn't covert enough for you. <br /><br />As for Joe Wilson, if I had the time and energy I'm sure I could show most of your accusations to be BS. But what for? It wouldn't change a thing. The yellow cake sales receipt was a forgery. The CIA informed the Bush administration it was a fake. Bush and his cronies continued to lie to the American people and sell the yellow cake story as truth. Valerie Plame was a covert undercover CIA agent and the Bush administration outed her. <br />So go ahead Pointer sling all the mud you want at Joe Wilson it doesn't change the big picture, your man in the White House lied and got us into a war based on lies.
....JKAn actve deputy director of some intell agency was commenting last night about the controversial facilities in Eastern Europe. At times he called them prisons, and sometimes he called them detention centers. So, I guess we can put that to bed, the illegal prisons exist(ed?).<br /><br />Oh, he also said the prisons/detention centers were not illegal. My opinion is different. And he said that leaking their existence endangered the host countries and their possible future support/participation. So, YES!!! They exist or existed.<br /><br />Heres the new $100-billion question (disclaimer: actual purchasing power is equivalent to that of 3-Euros): why didnt the US govt keep the detainees in the United States??? Why were (are?) they kept in Eastern European countries???<br /><br />New statistic courtesy of Fox News: only 2% of those held in Guantanamo Bay over the last four years have been charged with something. 98% of those being held for 4-years have no charges pending.
Probably a stretch to refer to the detainees as terrorist if they have been detained, studied, investigated and interrogated for four years and not been charged. Oh, that statistic was released because a big wad of the detainees that have been held for 4-years is being release, I think today. Investigations over the last year have shown those being released are NOT terrorist, not a danger to the US (western civilization) and not involved in whatever jihad. So much for the terrorist label, ay RF!?!<br /><br />If thats what is happening in the prison we do know about; I can only imagine what is happening in the prisons we dont know about.<br /><br />And what do you think would be appropriate compensation/payment (salary) for their incarceration over the last 4-years. In California its $100/day for wrongful incarceration. Those being released would be handed a check for about $146,000.00 on their way out. How much of our tax money should the fed govt pay to those that they should never have incarcerated in G Bay to begin with?<br /><br />...and you mindlessly bought into the propaganda about this administration protecting your @ss. But I used to think so too until they broke the rules. That is an indication things may not be what they want you to believe they are. I honestly dont know what to believe anymore. I only know it is now foolish to trust the current administration.
I C&P your post to emphasize how true your words are and ask, does Pointers obsession with Joe Wilson come to mind when read your post? Pointer desperate attempt to turn the debate on Joe Wilson is laughable! Well Rubbertoad, at least your smart enough not expose yourself too much on these page other than the one or two sentence junior high school remark. I'll give you more credit than Pointer. He just pukes his guts out and C&P or plagiarize anything he find on the right wing blogs or websites, never checking for facts. That makes it easy to debate and debunk his words. I have to complement you though, your smarter than him, always careful not to expose too much of yourself. The more you expose, the easier it is to shoot you down. So you sit back a lob the occasional grenade. But were on to you. <br /><br />My first boat was a 1982 21ft Searay SRV210.<br />My 2nd boat was 1988 Chaparral 2850SX with twin 350 mags, with thru hull exhaust.<br />My 3rd boat was a 1993 Thompson 3100 Santa Cruz with twin 305s, Onan Generator,Air Conditioning, and everything else to live aboard.<br />I didn't list these boats in my profile because I didn't think there was enough room and my interest changed when I started a family. I'm now into fishing with my family. Not that I needed to explain. Just thought you might want to be a little careful before making accusations.
Well thank you jivemonica, you're quite a classy gal! But I am happily married so I'll have to rebuff your advances.<br /><br />I hear heycods is looking for a little something on the side though.
