I've noticed a trend...

ErikDC

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That whenever Liberal Democrats are confronted with an issue that they have no answers for, the general tone is that of talking down to the questioner and generally trying to insult the same. Wow! If that doesn't tell you who these people really are, I don't know what doesn't. At least I can admit when I'm wrong. Those folks just get hostile and somehow think that they are above any sort of criticism. LOL! Like I've said before, let the losers identify themselves, it's easier to spot them! :D
 

BrettNC

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Liberals generally go for the bullying/guilt trip/insult route. <br /><br />One clown on here tried that whiney "but you don't know what it's like if you haven't lived under a bridge, so you can't have an opinion or think about solutions". This is typically a desperate last resort type of thing, right next to the insults.
 

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Losers?... Clowns?... Sound like insults to me...<br /><br />The liberals must be getting their hooks into you fellers... ;)
 

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The difference is, snapper, I don't throw them around when engaged in an argument with someone. I don't need to. That is the entire point of this post.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong, there are still plenty of clowns, but I don't have to tell them that to prove my point.
 

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I'm curious. What are you referring to?<br /><br /><br />But just in case, I'm a liberal and I'd like to say I'm truly sorry, I don't know what came over me, I hope you'll forgive me and I won't ever let it happen again.<br /><br />Now then, what did I do?
 

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Anyone who does not believe in the infallability of Bush is immediately labelled a Liberal Democrat.
 

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Originally posted by ErikDC:<br /> That whenever Liberal Democrats are confronted with an issue that they have no answers for, the general tone is that of talking down to the questioner and generally trying to insult the same. Wow! If that doesn't tell you who these people really are, I don't know what doesn't. At least I can admit when I'm wrong. Those folks just get hostile and somehow think that they are above any sort of criticism. LOL! Like I've said before, let the losers identify themselves, it's easier to spot them! :D
Erik, it is a well-known trait of the mentality that makes-up a liberal. It's a personality flaw -- or gift, (depending-upon the situation).<br />This different thought process is on a sub-political level. They act upon feelings or emmotion, in almost everything they do. Somewhat "Doctor McCoy-ish", if you will....<br />EX:" Dammit,Spok, I'm a doctor, not a brick-mason!!!"<br /><br /> <br />Conservatives have a well-known personality flaw or gift (depending-upon the situation), of acting-upon thought, or logic (spok-ish, if you will). EX: "that's correct, doctor."<br /><br /><br />
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Originally posted by jtexas:<br /> Anyone who does not believe in the infallability of Bush is immediately labelled a Liberal Democrat.
This is straying-off the topic a bunch. But this is such a widely-believed misconception, that i fealt compelled to explain something to you.<br /><br />It may seem to you, that most 'cons like me think that Bush and his admin can do no wrong.<br />This is simply NOT TRUE, as much as it may appear to be upon the face of it. <br />The reason is, that the constant ripping-into Bush causes a rabbid defense that often goes overboard. As his GENUINE flaws are not usually debated. Just the ones on-topic -- a topic usually posted by a lib wishing to rip-into him on the hurricane response, the progress in Iraq (for that matter the war on terror itself)...<br />This seathing rage and hatered from the left, causes a constant barrage of "get Bush any way i can" posts. Things like accusing him of being a dunce, going AWOL from his service duties, taking a vacation in times of dire national emergancy--- all of that garbage...<br />What would you expect from ANY red-blooded American, who very-basically, believes in the guy they voted for??!<br />Otherwise, they would've voted for the traitor, right? <br />But to say most of us think GWB is "infallible", is crazy-talk! After all, GWBush has blown more of my cash on domestic spending than Clinton did. He spent more on welfare and providing for illegal immigrant medical care, than had his predescessor too! Heck, he even spent more than Clinton did on LEVEE-CONSTRUCTION! <br />These, of course, are issues the rank-n-file libs and cons will not vary thier opinion on.So libs offend, us cons DEfend. Plain/simple.<br /><br /><br />No, he is far from the "ideal conservative" in office! He is no Reagan! What he is, however, IS better than the final alternatives we were given to choose from. But just like the dems, we messed-up durring the primaries. You guys should've chosen Lieberman. We should've choosen --- let's just say, "someone more conservative"....But, oh well.<br /><br />This misconception of yours is rampant amoung libs, too! We are barraged by "bush and vacation", "Cheney and haliburton", to the point of hurling! We are left with no other choice but to defend our president to the last breath,if need be! So you get what you see as "marching in lock-step".<br />Wrong.<br />The ONLY things I personally march in lock-step with, is my country, it's popular direction, and the constitution...(you know, the life? liberty? the pursuit with twin yammies thing?).Esspecially, in times of war.<br /><br />
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<br /><br /><br />BTW, to bring us back ON-TOPIC .....<br />Another "trait" of the left, is that when they get backed-into a logical corner durring any debate, they'll also sometimes resort to spell-checking and grammar correction of thier opponents, like a third-grade teacher on a student's book report ---- but with a great deal more condescension and vitriol.
 

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Off-topic? the topic is "I've noticed a trend..." It's supposedly about trends, but the initial post isn't about any trend at all; it doesn't say whether it's improving or worsening, it's just an observation - unless you consider "no change" to be a trend.<br /><br />And it's "their", not "thier". cheeze, what an ********!<br /><br />Okay, I know you took the time to address my concern, I shouldn't have got all smart-a55 on ya, just couldn't help it. Sorry about that.<br /><br /> ;) <br /><br />_____________________________<br /><br />Note: don't bother to figure out what name I called you...I actually just typed *'s
 

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The "clown" Brett is refering to is me. He has been here two minutes, knows nothing about me, yet has decided I am a clown because God forbid I told him something he did not want to hear. Is this that superior mentality kicking in that I am noticing, or is that the insult technique kicking in because he has nothing to back it up?. Maybe he is a Liberal because he is insulting? I am probably more conservative than he is and he doesn't even realize it. Back me into a corner and you get what you deserve, anyone knows that. Brett has really bothered me not because of anything he said may be right, because some of his points are valid. He bothers me because he thinks his way is the only way. At least I can admit I don't know everything and I will at least admit that if I havn't done it, I don't know enough to comment on it. Heck, I saw heart surgery on TV a few times, doesn't mean I am ready to do it. <br /><br />Erik, your observation, while valid, does not include the entire story. I have been here since before planes hit buildings. Things were not bad until the elections, then the emotions really kicked in. If a person were to view a lot of the postings you speak of, EVERYBODY acts the same. Repubs, dems, they all think the other is acting a certain way, when in fact everybody is saying the same thing. It just makes us feel better to label and demean. I too have done it, I won't lie. While I try to stay objective, there are some that just lay their ignorance right out there on the table and wonder why it is pointed out. <br /><br />It all reminds me of my divorce. My ex wife thought that if she just yelled louder than me, that made her right. All it proved is that she could yell louder, never mind the fact that she had slept with my entire unit. That is what I see on this forum, people just trying to yell the others into submission. Maybe if I keep calling them whiny libs, they'll convert to the obviously superiour conservative way. Kind of looks ridiculous if you just sit down and look at it.<br /><br />The only real trend I see here is stereotyping and lumping people into groups. Someone says something about the Prez has to be a stinking whiny liberal. Someone who believes in God just has to be a greedy stupid Republican. Why do I feel like I am the only one who thinks this whole thing is a waste of energy? Why can't anyone even admit there are more ways to skin the cat, and one way is not necessarily better than the other? <br /><br />Heck, I think Mercury makes the best outboards in the whole wide world, but does that make me right? It is just what I believe. That is the flaw of the trend on this site, is the lack of acceptance of what the fellow posters believe.
 

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While I still have no idea what anyone is talking about in this thread, I think you may have a point, Jason.<br /><br />You notice how quickly even FOX News got lumped into the liberal biased news camp over criticism of the Prez re Katrina?<br /><br />FOX News may well be biased, but they ain't liberals
 

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I think there are certain right-wingers here who will call you a liberal democrat if you express an opinion that differs from theirs, because that is the worst thing they can think of to call somebody.
 

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( I found this on another forum thought it would look good here) I was struck by the idea that people believe that there are absolute litmus tests for membership in the GOP or for self-labeled conservatives in a more general sense.<br /><br /> My first instinct was revulsion: I don’t like the idea of litmus tests and I do like the idea of the “big tent.” Give me dissent and lively debate and I’m a happy boy; disagreement on particulars--even some important ones--doesn’t mean that we can’t dine at the same club. Sometimes we just sit at different tables (to stretch an overused metaphor.<br /><br /> My second instinct was to beat myself up a bit: of course there are litmus tests. There are some things that are inviolable in being a member of a political party. There are some things that you could advocate that would mean you can’t be part of the happy conservative club.<br />The conservative side of the aisle is pretty hard to peg, though. It encompasses people with both isolationist and almost imperial designs on foreign policy; both free traders and protectionists; and a spectrum ranging from near-libertarians to near-socialists. Our own President Bush, for example, is more of a small tax socialist (an unhappy combination there) with a moderately conservative social agenda, some free trade instincts that get pushed back regularly by his protectionist policies, and an evolving, extremely engaged foreign policy.That begs the question, though: what is the litmus test to be either a conservative or a Republican? Or do we have to fragment the labels further to find the litmus test for each group, understanding that there simply won’t be agreement in some areas (like abortion, the death penalty, and our involvement in the Middle East)? Fragmenting further, though, threatens to make a situation where the term Republican comes to represent every combination of political thought that you can imagine (think of all the cocktail party self-definitions you’ve ever heard: “I’m a social liberal and a financial conservative").<br /><br /> If the tent grows too big we’ll be in an age where we can say, “We’re all Republicans now.” That’s demonstrably not true, but it leaves me where It started. What is the test, aside from self-identification, that defines a member of my tribe; what is the border that separates us from them in the big debate on ideas and the direction we take as a nation? <br /><br /> Don
 

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Eric, this "TREND" as you call it is not nothing new in politics. You may have just noticed it because it's probably at the highest pitch it's ever been.
 

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PW2, the starting purpose of this thread was yet another troll attempt, with an obviously insulting commentary on Liberals. It of course skewed into a backslapping "yeah, those liberals suck" fest. It only illustrates the basic human need to belong. If a group of people feel the same way about something, they feel better about themselves. They feel validated that their existance actually means something. Everyone wants to be a part of something. <br /><br />While I am quite confident a significant percent of folks here hate my stinking guts because I tend to just lay the dead body out to see rather than hide it, I still feel like I am a part of this collective, which is a group of people who own and use boats (and apparantly are biggots and elitists according to that very uninformed website).<br /><br />For the most part people only express opinions to gain agreement of those opinions from others. When someone posts "Stupid liberals are whiny poopyheads", they want fifty people to also say "yeah, those liberals are poopyheads". Then when a liberal defends himself, he is taken out back and E-beaten within an inch of his life by these people. <br /><br />The fact that the conservatives seem to make up the majority of this forum is daily illustrated when anyone who is not like-minded is trounced on like they are some inferior stain of society. It is very Third Grade, but that is the dynamics of this forum, and we just have to like it or leave it.<br /><br />I personally find that the behavior of both sides is repulsive, and wonder how many young minds come on to find out how to fix a boat and stare in disbelief at what is said on this forum. But hey, I am no saint, I write the stuff too. Oh well, you gots ta love that Free Speech thing..
 

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Well, I was going to apologize for making a totally off-the-cuff statement, which is what it really was. Then I saw JasonJ whine and complain for God knows how long. I'm third grade? You sounded pretty third grade yourself.
 

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Ditto JasonJ........well said. btw, am still werkin on another beast projy, got sidetracked yet again w/ other chores around here.
 

ErikDC

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Upon reflection, my post here is indeed a troll and I apologize for bringing it up. However, if you think that I'm going to roll over and let political correctness and general Liberal politics take control of my life, you have another thing coming. Don't forget that.
 
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