It's The Cows Fault......Not W's

[QC]

Re: It's The Cows Fault......Not W's

just keep reproduction at replacement levels

That doesn't result in Global Warming Potential reduction . . .

 

[Haut Medoc]

Re: It's The Cows Fault......Not W's

Nuke China!
It would be a start!

 

[stevieray]

Re: It's The Cows Fault......Not W's

Why didn't I think of that?

 

[jtexas]

Re: It's The Cows Fault......Not W's

Cows fault and not W's?

not entirely...

please provide a breakdown of bovine methane production by political party affiliation

 

[xtraham]

Re: It's The Cows Fault......Not W's

what about the methane produced by the lagoons we use today? and the methane from marsh? any #'s on those ?
just asking out of intrest because it never seems to be an issue..........

 

[crunch]

Re: It's The Cows Fault......Not W's

what about the methane produced by the lagoons we use today? and the methane from marsh? any #'s on those ?
just asking out of intrest because it never seems to be an issue..........

It's not an issue because it isn't produced by Man. You need to get with the program, read the agenda.... everything is Mans fault, nature is natural.

 

[xtraham]

Re: It's The Cows Fault......Not W's

I was thinking of human waste lagoons..........?

 

[JasonJ]

Re: It's The Cows Fault......Not W's

I too believe in reproduction being kept at replacement levels, and not for some psycotic socialism fest. Just simple math: Why should the entire population end earlier due to lack of resources just so people can exercise their right to breed? Why can't two kids be enough, why do we need six kids?

I have seen things starting to surface on the subject of Siberian tundra thawing and releasing methane, due to global warming. What I see is an opportunity, if that is true, to harness and use this methane.

 

[Plainsman]

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what about the methane produced by the lagoons we use today? and the methane from marsh? any #'s on those ?
just asking out of intrest because it never seems to be an issue..........

And the methane produced by landfills as well.

 

[xtraham]

Re: It's The Cows Fault......Not W's

the landfills around here are lined and the leachade is collected, the methane from the leachade is then just burned off into the air..
nice pretty flame....
like jason says looks like they could use it for some kind of energy.............

 

[jtexas]

Re: It's The Cows Fault......Not W's

I too believe in reproduction being kept at replacement levels, and not for some psycotic socialism fest. Just simple math: Why should the entire population end earlier due to lack of resources just so people can exercise their right to breed? Why can't two kids be enough, why do we need six kids?
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"right to breed?" right to breed? it's a basic human drive, might as well try to curtail eating and breathing...

 

[stevieray]

Re: It's The Cows Fault......Not W's

the landfills around here are lined and the leachade is collected, the methane from the leachade is then just burned off into the air..
nice pretty flame....
like jason says looks like they could use it for some kind of energy.............

There are landfills that use the methane to run generators in both MD & VA so the technology is feasible
- I sold gas monitoring systems on them (in case of methane leak).

 

[Haut Medoc]

Re: It's The Cows Fault......Not W's

I was thinking of human waste lagoons..........?

Hey, leave Lake Michigan out of it!

 

[WillyBWright]

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The biggest argument for me that seems to be missed on the effects of Carbon Dioxide on the environment involves one of the oldest lifeforms on the planet. Algae. That's the great equalizer. More CO2, more algae photosynthesizing it to carbon and oxygen. I have yet to see this mentioned by either side. There isn't a whole lot we can do to control algae on a global scale. Heck, it's hard enough just keeping it from forming on our moored boats.

I would have to believe that the other components of the greenhouse effect are far more significant than CO2. I would also bet that any planet capable of supporting carbon based life also has algae. And that all planets with water and intelligent lifeforms also have boats.

 

[ricksrster]

Re: It's The Cows Fault......Not W's

Four legs good, two legs bad - George Orwell Animal Farm

 

[JasonJ]

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"it's a basic human drive, might as well try to curtail eating and breathing..."

So what you are saying is that people who push out 6 head of kid are mindless breeding machines, incapable of any kind of thinking? Just because we can have 1 kid a year until we die doesn't mean we should. I just don't understand what part of "population will outstrip the resources available to us" doesn't anyone understand? I just can't see the endless pumping out of kids as anything but reckless disregard for everyone else, not to mention a basic self-serving action driven by ego or religion or both.

Look, my grandma, like a good Catholic, had 16 kids. Their resources could not keep up, and those kids had a rough life. My ma had 5 kids, not as much, but was still difficult as she was a single mom. Me, I had one child, and that was it. I knew I could provide for one child. Its called knowing your limits, not just having a bunch of kids and either hoping things will work out or letting the guvment pay for them. That is why we have BIG BRAINS, so we can effect our future. Otherwise, you are telling me we are just brainless breeding vessels. I hope you really don't believe that...

 

[QC]

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Jason dude,

You're gonna take a lot of heat when you sound a lot like the Communist Chinese. I am not trying to label you man, but that is the only society I know of that limits child birth. Ya know what the result is? Dead babies. That's weird . . . all the dead ones are girls, hmmmmm . . . Side note, Chinese official value alert - reject religion, hmmmmmm . . . That's probably just a coincidence. OK let's move on.

Big brains? Check. So lets move on from that too, we got big brains and some people have a lot of kids, so it ain't dat. Ok next. Ego? Well yeah we got ego too, but that could actually cause it, OK, how do we get rid ah dat? Hmmmm, lobotomy. Nah, too messy. Hmmm, religion, well them damn Catholics, man what are we gonna do about them? Give them condoms in school, yup, that's it, people are gonna love that, free stuff. OK. No, no, wait better yet, ban religion and limit child birth. Puuurrrfect, they're gonna love this in DC man . . .

 

[JasonJ]

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Oh no! The popular kids won't like me!

Hold on.....................................................................
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..................Nope, don't care...

Its called AN OPINION. Don't get so worked up, you know as well as I do everyone will overpopulate the world into ruin, so don't worry. The dream will live... I feel people should think beyond themselves so the kids they so want to have will actually have a planet to give to their kids, not too hard to figure out. Nope, we don't need to do it China style, we don't need to ban religion, I never said that. I said we need to take responsibility for our own actions, you know, the CONSERVATIVE value. You know, we don't need to have a guvment do what we can do on our own. All that good stuff.

I don't expect everyone to agree with me. I don't even care if anyone agrees with me. Its just my opinion, and just because it didn't get the stamp of approval from the Moral Majority doesn't make it any less valid. Havn't you figured out yet that I think for myself, I don't have other people think for me? Really, you want everyone to have a bunch of kids, great. I just get sad when I realize that my daughter will most like grow old in a world running on empty.

 

[QC]

Re: It's The Cows Fault......Not W's

I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth, just carry out your argument to what I think the only conclusion can be. I agree, personal responsibility. You might recall that we have actually been sorta discussing "brood" size for a little while. I don't get offended either, but I just don't know how you can reduce birth rates without taking some kinda weird action. And to me making family size a class in school is weird, so again, don't know how you get what you want . . . That's all. Kinda like our last little squabble. How do you get there from here? Can't legislate smarts. And a small twist of a favorite line of many here, who decides what is smart behavior?

 

[Skinnywater]

Re: It's The Cows Fault......Not W's

Cow farts only replaced Bison and Elk farts.