Intex Mariner 4 modifications and Tips

Rakumi

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Thanks for the input guys. I think im going to go with the Endura Max 40 as it will suit my purposes for now. Also would like to add the wooden floor but I see most everyone is using a 3 or 4 piece floor...Any reason other than ease of installation? Could I make a single piece floor ar at least a 2 piece floor? Why 3-4? I was thinking of tracing the rollup slate floor as a guide and short it by an inch or 2 and add carpet and pipe insulation and add it on top of the factory floor...seats will come at a different time. Also I got 2 10lb mushroom anchors to add to the bow and stern while fishing.
Hey Erikr, I used a 2 piece on my Excursion 5. I find it much easier for my setup. Good luck.
 

Ffclaws

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Erik, I love my endura max 40. I did a 3 piece floor because I didn't want a seam in the middle. My center piece is 33 3/4 x 67.5.
 

erikr

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This is a great forum with a great bunch of friendly and helpful people Thank You. I finally ordered the Endura Max 40 just because it is the newest version of that motor...going to pick up a marine battery this weekend and hopefully the mount will be in when the motor gets here. Been thinking a lot about this flooring situation and actually have been looking into plywood alternatives. There is a builders Supply in my area that has 1/2 inch and 3/4 inch material similar to the type of plastic the slates in the rollup floor is made from and will cut it to size for me. They say it is a little bit lighter than the wood counterpart and obviously will not rot like wood...although a 4'x10' sheet costs about 130.00 bucks. Has anyone here looked into these alternative materials for the floor?
 

mrdrh99

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I though about it but no where local had it and to order it delivery was outrageous. Very interested in how that works out
 

flukesofnature

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I did check a couple of google search site for composite material and the cost was very high all the way around. There was even some thought that in the sheet 4x8 ,6x6 etc ...the weight overall was pretty close to plywood. No doubt the life expectancy ,no rot etc is the selling point here. But if 15/32 plywood is even 30 dollars a sheet...high I know, but as an example you could replace your floor once every two years and get 8 years worth of materials for the cost of the composite.Add the 130 to the grocery list of seats,motor mount, motor, etc and you may as well have bought a zodiac or sea eagle.... kind of killing the low cost alternative so desirable in the M3 /M4.
 

Rakumi

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Hey fluke, Correct me if i am wrong but if a person never gets their wood floor wet (and it has carpet around it), shouldn't there be no damage to the floor? Or does sea air do damage regardless?
 

erikr

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Hey guys, finally got around to starting on the wooden floor for the M4, (see photos) its one piece right now, 1/2" plywood, but im planning to cut it down to pieces for the sake of portability. ive got a few questions. right now the width is 33" which allows it to fit underneath the inflated tubes with a little bit of wiggle room. im thinking of trying to use it with the factory floor just to make sure the floor surface is bulletproof for standing and casting or just walking around. i was wondering if you guys think that the 1/2" ply will fit under the tubes with the factory floor without stressing the material or if i should cut it down so that the floor doesnt tuck under the tubes at all. i know there have been some posts on here about how people use the plywood floor with the factory floor but i cant remember details and i cant afford to page through the whole thread here at work. additionally, i was wondering what you guys have found to be the best way to seal this thing up. im looking into carpeting in the future, but will likely use it when its just sealed/painted for a little while until i can drum up the funds for the carpeting, so any help you guys can provide there would be awesome. ill keep posting as the thing moves along (likely with more questions as well) thanks for all the help, cant wait to get this thing out.


Would love to see the pics of your work danro...I looked further into the plastic alternative...it wasn't what the sales guy told me it was. It was more of a cutting board material which is way to heavy and for the price I could do more mods for that kind of money. I am going to just use plywood, But I am going to try the one piece method like danro. @danro, did you make the wood fit end to end (bow to stern) or did you leave room at the ends? Im also going to go 1/2 inch and use the factory floor underneath...unless others think thicker without the factory floor is better? I know its all personal preference but im new at this and try to get as many opinions as possible from the people who have tried all of this. But I will post pics as I go as well.
 

Quispamgolfer

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Hi great site my first post. I have been out fishing with it 4 times this year. I installed a wooden floor in the middle of the M4 only as this is where I do a lot of standing casting. I don't stand at the two ends often so I did not put floor at either end. At each end there is a 65 lb Group 27 deep cycle battery. I have Minn Kota 55lb thrust and a 2.5 Nissan 2 stroke. I added a piece of wood to mount the Minn Kota offset from the motor. I use the motor for long distance to the areas where you want to fish and the Minn Kota is to move around quietly while fishing. Both 55 b thrust and 2.5 hp rating are way overkill for M4. However I feel safer with reserve power just in case I need it when the wind pick-up. Boat is very stable. The only worry I have with it, hopefully it will lessen as I use it more, is fear that when you run over rocks in lake it will puncture the bottom.
 

erikr

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Just out of curiosity...where are most of the members from who own M4's? I'm in the Buffalo NY area on lake Erie.
 

flukesofnature

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Rakmui
In a perfect world I would shout Amen to what you said. In the simplest case, a small nick or bolt hole or unpainted to perfection side piece that was cut when the dimensions were sawn, the smallest hole says " Fill me " to any water. In my case, A small separation at the chamber /floor junction...maybe a weak stitch, poor workmanship or over stressing the PVC...whatever allowed 2-3 cups of water in per use( 1-3 times per week).This water found one of the above entrance points and my decision to use OSB bit me in my large back-forty. The wood now twice as heavy, and damp or soaked all the time. I used two full coats of primer sealer/caulked and sealed all the edges..and supposedly siliconed all the holes used for seat bolts , etc ..... fecal matter happens!!!! I would use plywood on the next trial. But supposedly...if one does not add water to supposed good paint sealing process..little replacement is needed.
 

flukesofnature

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:facepalm:BTW...did use carpet and pipe insulation around all edges......so I thought I was covered 100%.....
 

Rakumi

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Ok so i just posted this morning at 7:30 in the morning east coast time thinking it would be a normal day out on the water... i have not gone boating in a few months... i think like April. So i was really excited. Got there about 9:30 or 10 a.m. After getting to the site, I loaded all my gear on the boat. Before undocking, i seen the outer layer of my boat seemed low on air pressure. Now i just assumed it was because the water was cold. I own an excursion 5 by the way, but i like posting here because it is the most active thread. So i grabbed my small electric pump and plugged it into the battery and all was good. Figured if i had a hole, i would have seen air bubbles from under the boat and my no-force pump would not have worked. So i went to the deeper "pool" area of the marina i was in which leads to the open waters if you leave the marina area protected by the land. After a bit of sitting around tossing the fishing line out there, seen the pressure in the outer tube drop again. Being that over an hour had passed on the water, surely this was just because of cold temperatures because after an hour passing and still having air in it, that would not be a hole. So pumped it up again while on the water and it was fine. Started towards the outer side of the land/marina to the open water side. Now i was less than a city block from land so no real danger. Minnkota 30 was powering my raft. Now a had the anchor out and playing my music from my phone which was on the floor and my wallet safe in the utility pouch (I think you know where i am going with this). A few boats passed by creating some major waves because i was not far from the entrance to the marina. No biggie. The boat took the waves no problem. Like a minute later i switched up my lure to the trusty raspberry sented worm lure. Tossed the line and seconds after that i see splashing. So i get excited and wheel it in and stand up for a few more tosses. Waters got mildly wavy and (i mean hardly enough to move the boat) it was strange but it was as if my right leg lost support. Not from my physically but as if the boat really shifted to one side. My cooler is my bench seat and it was between my legs while i was standing, becauee i was sitting on it in a horse riding like fashion. So when i was standing and it all shifted, i knew something was wrong because my cooler slide to the right side as well. Because of the position of the cooler, i could not drop low and recover from falling. It was all in slow motion as i heard a voice in my head say "you are about to go into the water".... Splash!!! Quickly start tredding water (life vest on of course), reach for my fishing poll as a reactiong before it gets away from my, toss it on the boat. Pull myself up and onto my boat like hoping a fence and putting one leg up and rolling onto the boat from my side. It was at that moment i felt the edge of the outer tube and it was d*mn near flat when i pressed on it with force. I now knew why the boat wabbled like it did. I quickly scan the area and seen my cooler, hat, seat cushion and one paddle in the water. I was in reach of the paddle so i grabbed it. Everything else was too far. Put the motor on and headed for the cooler first. I thought to myself "i hope my hat does not sink but i need the cooler first". After getting the cooler, i realized the motor mount was half under water and the engine was so low that the head was maybe 5 or 6 inches from the water. I was anxious to get my seat cushion and hat but i had to stay focus and pulled out my pump from the cooler because the boat was hardly moving by motor and i was drifting out further from land. So plug into the battery and started pumping. Outer tube filled up no problem. Now made my way to the hat and the seat cushion. I felt embarrassed because land fishers seen me. Though i was not far from land, i was not close to the docking area.... so finishing off... i made it back. All my stuff was wet. I was so glad my phone and wallet was safe, but my earpiece was in my pocket. My sandles were in the cooler, not wet much and it is much easier to paddle your feet in water without footwear. So i have learned from my experience and want to give some advice, leave important things on the boat. Has anybody else fallen off their boats?
 

Rakumi

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Hey fluke, just read your post in response to my question about sea air and if it could damage the wood floor.... well today my floor got a dose of wet human. Lol...OMG, never in a million years would i have guessed. Well i will see what happens but my floor is wet a bit on the carpet and i do not have painted wood.
 

flukesofnature

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yup! was flyfishing one day...and spazzed or something but at 6 '4 and 250++ shifted one way , and with gravity and inertia( object in motion continues in motion until acted upon by equal or opposite force)..the oh so aerodynamic M3 went forward and I went backward..resulting in an immediate separation between my beloved inflatable oasis and myself.....doggone it, nobody saw me do the dive...so I guess it doesn't count as a score. Glad you are OK.....makes a great story. Did your floor get wet?????LOL< see previous post>>> LOL....and was it a leak or just cold water reduced air pressure?
 

Rakumi

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Yeah, I am ok Fluke, thanks. It had to be a slow leak. Water was not that cold (I know), lol, but I am afraid if it is a seam leak. I have not checked yet because after getting home, I left all my stuff in the car and got in the shower.
 

flukesofnature

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I can imagine a hot steamy shower....and you repeating out loud...I will not speak badly about my inflatable...I will not speak badly.........LOL
If it is a big seam leak..check out this product...Bixlers Tube seal.....comes with good recommendations...I think they are a canadian company...you are in Brtish Columbia , I think I remember???
 
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Rakumi

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I am on the east coast of the US. What ever it is, a hole or seams, it is not big. Or otherwise i would have know right away and not been out there. I have used super glue to patch up 2 holes before using the patches that come with it and it works fine. I glob a bunch of glue till it forms a chunky wort on the skin of the boat. This is from on top. I have not been back outside to unpack the car since. Been lazy, but if it ends up being that i did not close my boston valve tight enough, i will kick myself. I did over inflate on land and opened it to let some air out.
 

flukesofnature

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Heh HEH.........been there done that on the loose boston valve.....Ah well...another stouthearted Intex captain of the Sea cheats death one more time!!! LOL!!! Fish-ON!!!!!
 

flukesofnature

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BTW ..to all..something that helps with a controlled release of pressure from a boston valve is to wrap the threads in teflon tape( in plumbing section of hardware)...one wrap thickness makes the whole thing seat tighter, but not so tight you can't get it undone...very inexpensive, seals excellently
 
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