Insulting Craigs List offers

tomdinwv

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Re: Insulting Craigs List offers

I've told people I would not negotiate price on the phone or via e-mail, only in person. That way they see exactly what is being sold and it's condition. Weeds out anyone just trying to throw lowball offers. May waste a few minutes of your time showing them the item, but if they're not serious buyers, they usually won't bother coming to look.
 

JustJason

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I buy and sell stuff on craigslist all the time.

1. I have an email address strictly for CL, and nothing else, and it's not tied to me in any way.

2. When I respond to people, I ask them to give me their number first. I never give out mine. When I get the number, I google it, if it looks legit I call it. If it belongs to somebody on the other side of the planet, I skip it.

I was selling a car years ago and I made the mistake of giving out my number. (the 1 and only time I ever did it). Some kid called me at 3 in the morning drunk/high asking me if I still had the car. I was BS!

I get spam now, but it's just the craigslist email. If I get to much of it, I'll just get another CL email.
 

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Don't take it personally, but negotiations are part of the landscape, even if the negotiations amount to selling at the asking price. As a buyer, I want to know if I can get it cheaper or not. The only way to know that is to ask. I recently bought a gun through a classified ad. It was priced right, and the picture looked great. It was a 2 hour drive for me to see it, so I asked, would you be able to take $250 less (almost a third off the asking price and $550 below book price without the scope) before I made the 2 hour drive. She said she didn't think so, but as we talked about life and other things, she liked my philosophy and said, forget it, she didn't need to talk to her husband, and yes, I could have it at that price! I made the trip, it was everything I wanted and then some, so I bought it at my price. I would have paid more, but all I did was ask and then compliment her on how good the gun looked in the picture, how I would be using for an out-west hunting trip, etc.

There are all kinds of stories I could give where I have gotten something for 1/3 - 1/2 the asking price, even though the asking price was fair, just because I asked. So, will I ask? Yes! Will I do it in a polite way and not try to antagonize the seller? Yes. Might I buy it if you don't come down to my price or close to it? Maybe. It depends on how much I want it, what my budget is, the condition, and the value. So asking is all I do. The ball is in your court next as to how I proceed. But I might be a buyer at YOUR price, so handle me gently if you want to sell it ... something like, "Well, I think you have to see this to really appreciate the value. I would like you to come and take a look and then we can discuss numbers. As of now, I am seeing it and you are not, so let's get on even footing before making any offers. Just know that I think I priced it at a very fair and reasonable price and am not really looking to negotiate down."
 

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The emails that bother me the most are the ones asking a question that is clearly addressed in the ad or the one line "Is this still for sale?". When I list something I usually list it for 10-15% more than I want for it expecting to an offer that is right about where I want. The last boat I listed for $2700 and I took the first offer of $2400.
 

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My wife used to yell at me when I negotiate, but now she's into it herself.

I collect old classic and antique outboard motors. I have enough really, but if I see one that's interesting I always go look at it. It doesn't matter what thay ask, I always offer $20. You can't imagine how many $150 motors I got for $20.....LOL. I always do it respectfully, explaining that that's all I'm willing to pay. If I get turned down, its ok since I didn't need it anyway. If they counteroffer $30 I'll probably take it.

OTOH, on the other side of the table its a different story. Anything I've sold on CL, I didn't really care about selling. I price it fair and if they offer lower I don't accept it. There have only been a few times I didn't get my price, and then I just donated it to the Salvation Army.
 

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I got this response, maybe I'm skeptical- but buying a 17yo boat based upon my photo's and description without touching it makes me a bit suspicious, should I be?

I'm in Charleston, WV. I would be buying the boat based on the pictures and your recommendation and shipping the boat via Uship. I have been researching night and day boats listed on Boattrader.com, Powerboatlistings.com, Craigslist, and multiple other sites. I have funding and would like to make a decision by this Sunday. I just came across your listing today. If you could email me more pics when you have time that would be great. Do you have a marine shop do your yearly maintenance Is the boat currently and previously winterized? Other then the cover does the boat come with a bimini top, convertible top etc.? Does the boat have a stereo/cd/aux port? Is the tongue on the trailer fold away? Does the boat have any exterior cracks underneath or any damage exterior? What is the total passenger count or max weight?
 

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I got this response, maybe I'm skeptical- but buying a 17yo boat based upon my photo's and description without touching it makes me a bit suspicious, should I be?

I'm in Charleston, WV. I would be buying the boat based on the pictures and your recommendation and shipping the boat via Uship. I have been researching night and day boats listed on Boattrader.com, Powerboatlistings.com, Craigslist, and multiple other sites. I have funding and would like to make a decision by this Sunday. I just came across your listing today. If you could email me more pics when you have time that would be great. Do you have a marine shop do your yearly maintenance Is the boat currently and previously winterized? Other then the cover does the boat come with a bimini top, convertible top etc.? Does the boat have a stereo/cd/aux port? Is the tongue on the trailer fold away? Does the boat have any exterior cracks underneath or any damage exterior? What is the total passenger count or max weight?
It sounds legit to me. Usually the wording is bad on the scams and they don't really ask questions. I would still want verifiable funds before giving up the boat.
 

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The worst part of selling something for me has always been finding the right buyer.
I have my boat up on craigslist with some real good quality photo's, a detailed description of the condition of everything and what I have done to it. Essentially it is turn key for the next guy.

I think I priced it reasonable for our area and spring is approaching. The boat is in a garage right now ready to go.

I would never think of randomly e-mailing someone just a price.... especially one 25%+ lower than what the guy listed it for.

25%? Most of the guys responding to my ad are tossing out $4K for a boat that blue books at 10K

Delete and move on with your life
 

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I got this response, maybe I'm skeptical- but buying a 17yo boat based upon my photo's and description without touching it makes me a bit suspicious, should I be?
Totally sounds legit. Scammers wouldn't be asking all those questions.
 

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OTOH, on the other side of the table its a different story. Anything I've sold on CL, I didn't really care about selling. I price it fair and if they offer lower I don't accept it.
I do the same as well. I give a little wiggle room but not much. I try to always be the cheapest item whether its a boat, car, or anything I sell on eBay even.
 

gtochris

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It sounds legit to me. Usually the wording is bad on the scams and they don't really ask questions. I would still want verifiable funds before giving up the boat.

I agree. I have a friend that went cross country for a rather average bowrider and I sold my Camaro to a guy from 2,000 miles away in Central Canada! The other questions this guy asked were intelligent. Verifying funds spooks me, what is perhaps a dependable way to accept payment for something like this?
 

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I agree. I have a friend that went cross country for a rather average bowrider and I sold my Camaro to a guy from 2,000 miles away in Central Canada! The other questions this guy asked were intelligent. Verifying funds spooks me, what is perhaps a dependable way to accept payment for something like this?

I would talk to your bank and see what they suggest.
 

oldjeep

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I do the same as well. I give a little wiggle room but not much. I try to always be the cheapest item whether its a boat, car, or anything I sell on eBay even.

I'm pretty much there too. My ad says price firm, if someone actually came to look with cash in pocket I might take a couple hundred less. Making an offer without ever seeing the boat in person - delete.
 

oldjeep

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I agree. I have a friend that went cross country for a rather average bowrider and I sold my Camaro to a guy from 2,000 miles away in Central Canada! The other questions this guy asked were intelligent. Verifying funds spooks me, what is perhaps a dependable way to accept payment for something like this?

Cash, or funds wired directly to your account. Boat doesn't leave possession until the funds are verified and transferred into your main account. (never ever ever give an unknown person the account where you keep "real" money) You don't pay for shipping - this is the big scam. The questions could still be canned, the red flag is when they say that they will pay you the ship fee and you pay the shipper.
 
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bruceb58

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If I don't get cash and its a cashiers check, I make sure I meet at a time when the person's bank is open and I can verify that the cashiers check is legit with the bank.

I used to sell around 25 cars a year when I was in college. That is what I did.
 

oldjeep

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If I don't get cash and its a cashiers check, I make sure I meet at a time when the person's bank is open and I can verify that the cashiers check is legit with the bank.

I used to sell around 25 cars a year when I was in college. That is what I did.

Hard to do that if you are buying cross country sight unseen. I bought a 70 spitfire out of California, seller had his funds wired to him by me, verified and my shipper picked up the car 2 days later.
 

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Hard to do that if you are buying cross country sight unseen. I bought a 70 spitfire out of California, seller had his funds wired to him by me, verified and my shipper picked up the car 2 days later.
Yes...whole different story.

Why would you buy a Spitfire in the first place? :)
 

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The worst part of selling something for me has always been finding the right buyer.
I have my boat up on craigslist with some real good quality photo's, a detailed description of the condition of everything and what I have done to it. Essentially it is turn key for the next guy.

I think I priced it reasonable for our area and spring is approaching. The boat is in a garage right now ready to go.

I would never think of randomly e-mailing someone just a price.... especially one 25%+ lower than what the guy listed it for.

If you want to eliminate ridiculous offers, do not accept emails. Make them call you. The very few people who have tried to bargain with me without even seeing the merchandise, I just blow them off. If someone emails, lowball offer or not, I ignore it.

It works every time. If I do not get calls, my item is not worth what I had reasonably hoped it was. I will keep ratcheting down the price until the phone starts to ring. Craigslist is the greatest arbiter of value that we have ever had access to.
 
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