I need help with a 58 super thunderbolt iekhaefer!

[racerone]

I have that set of pliers somewhere.----Have not used them for a while.

 

[merkinstine]

Awesome thanks for sharing, are the pliers expensive?

 

[racerone]

Those pliers are needed for stubborn rotors.----A reasonable man might use 2 hefty screwdrivers or prybars.

 

[merkinstine]

Is it possible that it don't put spark to the plugs if it's in gear? I'm not at the boat right now but was thinking maybe it's like a car where it won't let it start if it's in gear.

 

[jimmbo]

Often the Neutral Interlocks are in the Control Box. Remove the Plug wires and ground them,

 

[merkinstine]

Often the Neutral Interlocks are in the Control Box. Remove the Plug wires and ground them,

I took one off and held it to see if there was any voltage coming through, are you saying to pull them from the plug and hold it to the motor to see if there is spark?

 

[jimmbo]

No, I am saying remove them from the plugs and ground them to the Block,

 

[merkinstine]

Got ya, there is nice spark I tried that the other day. I'm home now, I noticed that the whole distributor assembly moves back and forth when you engage the shifter, is there supposed to be a belt going to the pully on the top of the assembly or does it swing into the gear?

 

[merkinstine]

 

[jimmbo]

There is a belt between the Distributor and the Flywheel. Looking at the top pic, I don't see a belt
The distributor should not be moving when the Shift Linkage is moved, except on the Dockbusters, but they are 6s. IT does however move when the Throttle Linkage is moved

 

[jimmbo]

I took one off and held it to see if there was any voltage coming through, are you saying to pull them from the plug and hold it to the motor to see if there is spark?

If you are testing for spark, hold the Wire, with a bolt in it, about 5/16" away from a paint free part of the Block
However if you are rotating the engine for some reason, and don't want risk it Starting, then ground the wires to the Block
That said, of there is no Belt between the Flywheel and Distributor, then rotation of the engine is nothing to worry about, but spinning the Distributor, would normally cause a Spark

 

[merkinstine]

Is there any way I could hook these cables up to the evenrude with the parts I have?

 

[merkinstine]

I got you, I think the rats ate the timing belt, I went back to the manual you gave me and saw there is a belt that is missing, I'm assuming that is why there ain't no spark, if I were to swap out the evenrude for the mercury could I use the cables shown in the pics by hooking them up in reverse ( hooking the part where the cable is mounted to the mercury motor to the throttle cable on the evenrude and vice versa where it hooks to the throttle of the mercury to the motor of the evenrude?

 

[merkinstine]

There is a belt between the Distributor and the Flywheel. Looking at the top pic, I don't see a belt
The distributor should not be moving when the Shift Linkage is moved, except on the Dockbusters, but they are 6s. IT does however move when the Throttle Linkage is moved

Your right, I got them mixed up I'm about to order one from oldmercs.com for $39.99. I'm going to try and find a coupon for it first.

 

[merkinstine]

Your right, I got them mixed up I'm about to order one from oldmercs.com for $39.99. I'm going to try and find a coupon for it first.

So the evenrude serial number starts with 25829 I can't find it on the list you gave me, any idea what it might be?

 

[jimmbo]

you're sure that 8 isn't a 0?

Either that, or it is a 1954 25hp, looking at the Pattern for the Numbers

As for the Merc Controls on an Evinrude or Johnson? I don't know, Mercury back in the Day, anchored the Inner cable and used the Outer Casing to move the Linkage, opposite of what OMC did. Also I don't know if the Cables move the correct Distances for proper movement at the Motor

 

[merkinstine]

you're sure that 8 isn't a 0?

Either that, or it is a 1954 25hp, looking at the Pattern for the Numbers

As for the Merc Controls on an Evinrude or Johnson? I don't know, Mercury back in the Day, anchored the Inner cable and used the Outer Casing to move the Linkage, opposite of what OMC did. Also I don't know if the Cables move the correct Distances for proper movement at the Motor

I was afraid of that, when they say boat they really do mean bout o' another thousand

 

[jimmbo]

I consider a Boat a Hole in the Water that you will pour a lot of money into

 

[racerone]

Judging by the pictures that Mercury needs a complete teardown / inspection / evaluation.-------Not going to run like new with just a fresh tank of gas and a new battery.

 

[merkinstine]

Judging by the pictures that Mercury needs a complete teardown / inspection / evaluation.-------Not going to run like new with just a fresh tank of gas and a new battery.

I'm going to have to agree with you on that sadly. I was looking at it yesterday in detail and the rats got to it alot more than I thought. On the bright side though I get to tare down a motor I have never seen before, and that means making it look beautiful in the process. Any idea what one of these would be worth in running condition all cleaned up with a new paint job?