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BWR1953

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I wouldnt use the stripper wheel on anything other then a but of soft paint left behind after scrapping.

Thats stuff is still nasty and you dont want to fling even a little bit off w the wheel....

Stripper needs to go down in 1 smooth stroke. No brishing back and forth and no smearing it around....

Initial contact seals out air and re-brushing 'lifts' 1st coat and prevents it and 2nd coat from working quite as well.....

Do smaller areas on opposite sides. Apply, cover, move to the other side, apply cover and wait 20 min then go and scrape 1st side, then 2nd....

If its still not great results, apply, cover and wait 30min try again.

I think some have left it 12hrs or longer to let it really chew on the paint.

Also when covering, dont smoosh/wiggle or press plastic down too much. It might be doing the same as re-brushing and hampering effectiveness.

If all else fails to improve reaults (tried the flour trick yet?) step up to a nastier stripper, like airplane paint stripper. It is probably best not to let your son apply, help cover or remove it though.... At least not the 1st few times you use it. Rusto makes a good one, but I used the brand sold at my local auto parts place...
Oh sure, now ya tell me! :lol:

The details you provided make sense. Lots of good, helpful information. Thanks! And based on that info, I can't help but wonder if the ideal way to apply the stripper would be to spray it on. Ya know?

So after my earlier post, we tried a couple different techniques with improved results.

In this pic, we applied to a smaller area adjacent to the previous poor results section. This time we brushed on a thick coat, covered, waited 20 minutes and scraped. Worked better than the prior method.
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The section in the foreground was the second attempt.
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For this attempt we poured a large portion then spread with a wide scraper. Didn't cover it. It bubbled up quickly. Waited 15 minutes.
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Scraped again this time. The section towards the bow had been done previously. Some stripper dribbled down the stern and did well.
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Then we took it outside for a rinse with the pressure washer, which also cleaned around the rivets very nicely.
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Back in the barn, ready for more work tomorrow! :) 8.jpg

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BWR1953

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Oh yeah... I did give up on using the nylon wheel with the cordless drill. It turned out to not be as effective as using the pressure washer.

And I did use the flour trick with each application. Really helps keep the goop in place. It's sorta like making pancake mix, only scarier! :lol:
 

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That looks like you found the right process.. When I stripped mine I brushed it on and let it set then scraped it off..
Hope your Thanksgiving day was a good one.
 

BWR1953

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That looks like you found the right process.. When I stripped mine I brushed it on and let it set then scraped it off..
Hope your Thanksgiving day was a good one.
I'll be checking that process some more tomorrow. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Thanksgiving ended up okay but started out a little tough. I passed another kidney stone in the morning but didn't have to go to the ER this time. :rolleyes:
 

BWR1953

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Today's progress. We're all finished for today.


After we strip, we pressure wash.
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Then the boy squeegees the boat and towels it dry so that the next step can be taken quickly.
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Stripping so far:
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Watermann

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Ahh yeah the man and boat bonding process of paint stripping.
 

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Passing kidney stones will ruin any day..:faint2:
What you have done looks great so far.. Keep at it..
 

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It's looking good!

Another thought on one layup working better than the next is the pressure washer might be cooling the boat (and shop when moving it back in). The stripper is pretty picky about temps. Have you tried getting the shop to the right temp? Probably not as big an issue for you down south.

Either way, nice progress and good looking property!
 

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And don't forget to keep those mileage logs and hotel recipts for the hospital visits... Just in case the standard deduction increase isn't passed :)
 

BWR1953

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Hi all, nothing new to report on the KF. Been busy with medical stuff again. And transportation issues.

My truck nearly stranded me 60 miles from home and I missed a doctor appointment, so I finally got my hotrod to make sure that I have reliable wheels. :rockon: And it could make the trip to the VA in 25 minutes if it were legal to do so. :heh:


It's looking good!

Another thought on one layup working better than the next is the pressure washer might be cooling the boat (and shop when moving it back in). The stripper is pretty picky about temps. Have you tried getting the shop to the right temp? Probably not as big an issue for you down south.

Either way, nice progress and good looking property!
You're right about the temperatures. I don't have heat or AC in the shop, so I'm dependent upon the weather. We're having cool weather here now. Normal for this time of year. But it's delaying KF progress.

Oh! I have a line on borrowing a 4,000 PSI pressure washer. That should help a bit too! :)

And don't forget to keep those mileage logs and hotel recipts for the hospital visits... Just in case the standard deduction increase isn't passed :)
It's a VA hospital about 60 miles from my house so no overnight stays and whatnot.
 

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Well that's convenient enough at least! :) 19 per mile isn't much of a deduction (assuming you itemize) so the shorter the drive the better.

4,000 psi sounds like some serious hardware
 
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Speaking of weather... we had our first frost of the season this morning. :smow:

That'll keep me in the house today! :lol:


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Guys, I'm bummed. :grumpy:

The weather warmed up today so the boy and I went out to do a little more hull stripping. With very poor results. The air temp was about 70 degrees and we moved the boat out to the south side of the garage to have the sunshine warm it up. We did the same with the Jasco stripper. We let both sit for 30-45 minutes and the boat was nicely warm to the touch. Not blisteringly hot, but quite warm.

We then very carefully applied the stripper, covered it with the plastic sheet and let it sit for 40 minutes. Then we moved the boat to the north side of the garage and used my pressure washer on the hull. No joy. Very little of the paint came off. Some sections of the stuck on paint have been treated 4 times and the paint just won't release! :mad-new:

And to quote the boy, "That wasn't worth it." :mad2:

I did text my neighbor to see if I could borrow his 4,000 PSI pressure washer, but he never replied. He's a very busy fellow and I'm not at the top of his priority list.

After the last few attempts with such little success, I decided to change my overall approach. Originally I'd planned on just sanding the hull, then paint. Then I changed my mind and decided to fully strip the hull down to bare metal. That's clearly not working and time is wasting.

So - at this point I'm going to try sanding the remaining spots off the bottom of the hull, leaving the sides painted. And then I'll sand the sides to prep them for paint without completely stripping everything off. I'm planning on leaving the bottom unpainted.

And on top of that, I started having my old medical symptoms while I was out there. Still having some even now. Has me worried. :sorrow:

But I'm gonna keep on keepin' on as best I can.

Todays efforts:

KF warming in the afternoon sunshine.
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Stripper applied and covered.
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Stripper being pressure washed off the hull.
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End results.
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70 is still pretty low temp for good chemical paint stripping......

Bummer's health stuff, keep on keeping on, best ya can.
 

BWR1953

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70 is still pretty low temp for good chemical paint stripping......

Bummer's health stuff, keep on keeping on, best ya can.

Temps are supposed to be warmer this week. I hope I'll be feeling better. Will definitely be calling the doc tomorrow.

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90s would be better, but 80 is better then 70.....

good luck w the doc
 

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Talked to the doc this afternoon and she put me back on Prednisone. I expected that. But at least it's a lower dosage. I'll be starting low and working up if necessary. Her initial recommendation was for me to start high then taper down quickly. But that drug has destroyed me :attention: a lot already and I'm "askeered" of it and negotiated this alternate route. If I don't start feeling better in a few days I'll have to crank up the amperage. If I'm lucky, I'll be able to stay at the low dosage. Another (different) doc appointment tomorrow so I'll be on the road again.

Weather is supposed to hold in the upper 70s and lower 80s this week. If I'm lucky, I'll get some more work done on the KF.

The only "progress" I made today was to buy these 3M scrub pads with handles. And extra scuff pads. I bought this stuff after re-reading Watermann's thread and realized I'd left out this vital part. D'oh. :rolleyes:
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I used this one.

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BWR1953

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I used this one.

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Thanks WM! I just ordered those and will return the other ones. :)​​​​​​​
 

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I had a thought, and the pics of the scrubbies spurred it so maybe it's where you're going already.

If you have old hard grease on the hull, your stripper won't make contact with the paint. Seems like you've scrubbed it enough to cure that problem by now though.
 
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