I have another boat in my sights. UPDATE 12-24-2010 SEA RAY 220 FOUND!!!

archbuilder

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Re: I have another boat in my sights. UPDATE 12-24-2010 SEA RAY 220 FOUND!!!

Sorry to hear that Jay, happens from time to time to all of us. Not sure what to say other than take step back like dorelse said...tomorrow will shed some new light on things....and a new year.
 

superpop

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Man, that is terrible, do you have any email threads or other documentation that the PO sent where he indicated the floor AND stringers were rebuilt. I would take it to a fiberglass shop and get an estimate, then send a certified letter from an attorney with pictures of the rot and tell the PO that they need to reimburse you for this as this is clearly fraud. Did you sign anything that indicated "Sold as is". I think you have a legit case here and it could be handled in small claims court. Maybe he will split the difference with you on the cost of the repairs. I would not just take it though, you were clearly swindled. Who knows, maybe he was taken by the shop that did the work as well, maybe he paid a bunch of money for what he thought was a complete repair, and the shop did a hack job, hard to say, but I would at least try to get some money back. Doesn't hurt to ask. On the issue of having the space to do the repair, do you have an open area to work in, if so you can get one of those Costco 10X20 garages that would work great as a temp workshop. just add some 2" two foot pipes to the legs to make it tall enough to walk around in the boat. Might be cheaper than renting a shop.
 

fat fanny

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Frisco sorry to hear that and after all you went through to get it. But never the less you will perservere and do what it takes to make it right. Remember tommorow is another day.
 

Friscoboater

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Re: I have another boat in my sights. UPDATE 12-24-2010 SEA RAY 220 FOUND!!!

Man, that is terrible, do you have any email threads or other documentation that the PO sent where he indicated the floor AND stringers were rebuilt. I would take it to a fiberglass shop and get an estimate, then send a certified letter from an attorney with pictures of the rot and tell the PO that they need to reimburse you for this as this is clearly fraud. Did you sign anything that indicated "Sold as is". I think you have a legit case here and it could be handled in small claims court. Maybe he will split the difference with you on the cost of the repairs. I would not just take it though, you were clearly swindled. Who knows, maybe he was taken by the shop that did the work as well, maybe he paid a bunch of money for what he thought was a complete repair, and the shop did a hack job, hard to say, but I would at least try to get some money back. Doesn't hurt to ask. On the issue of having the space to do the repair, do you have an open area to work in, if so you can get one of those Costco 10X20 garages that would work great as a temp workshop. just add some 2" two foot pipes to the legs to make it tall enough to walk around in the boat. Might be cheaper than renting a shop.

Thanks guys for the encouragement. Superpop, I never signed anything saying as is. The bill of sale just states the purchase price and and what it was for. His wife even notarized it.

As far as the space goes, my Home owners association would have a small cow if I put up one of those tents. I will have to do this without splitting the hull for sure.
 

DaNinja

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Re: I have another boat in my sights. UPDATE 12-24-2010 SEA RAY 220 FOUND!!!

Man, I felt sick just reading your discovery. I just read through your resto thread, though. You've got some great skill and resolve. I just feel bad that you may have to exercise it so soon with this boat. I hope you can turn it off for a bit and enjoy your New Years.
 

26aftcab454

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Sorry to hear the news- that just sucks!

maybe the seller is a honest person and did not know about the rot below and will work with you on it.
 

Friscoboater

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Yes I am turning it off until tomorrow, and I am going out tonight with my wife for some fun. Well it is at a neighbors house, but it is still out. I am going to have to fix the thing to recover my investment, so I will be starting a resto thread real soon.

The money is not an issue, it is just the fact that I feel duped. No one likes that feeling, but I have to swallow this pill and move on. I just hated the look on my kids faces when I told them. Talk about feeling like you let your family down. The wife is taking this well.
 

Friscoboater

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Re: I have another boat in my sights. UPDATE 12-24-2010 SEA RAY 220 FOUND!!!

Here are some pictures.

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produceguy

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Re: I have another boat in my sights. UPDATE 12-24-2010 SEA RAY 220 FOUND!!!

Hey buddy, You didnt let your family down. Thats a very nice boat and any of us would be happy to own it.
Is there anybody in the iboat community that lives near if so maybe they could help you out with the project and space you need. If I was around your neck of the woods,I would help ya anyway I could.
Hope you have a great time with your pals.
 

superpop

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The good news is that you will know what you have when you are done and you can enjoy it with some peace of mind. It is a very nice looking boat so once it is done you should have a great time with it. I figured it wasn't about the money but more just about the fact that folks should not get away with this kind of trickery without some consequence. But again maybe the PO was duped as well. If they ignore you, then you can assume they pretty much knew what was going on. I doubt the cooler and life jackets were over the soft spots by coincidence.
 

fat fanny

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Frisco look at it this way at least with your skills and proper planning you can have it ready by the time the season starts and with the lessons learned from the last rebuild it will even be a better boat with a faster turn around. Good luck and you know we will all be here watching and supporting you all the way.
 

bear_69cuda

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Re: I have another boat in my sights. UPDATE 12-24-2010 SEA RAY 220 FOUND!!!

So sorry brutha!

All will be good...

I sent you a PM.

P.S.

If I lived closed I'd donate my time, and help you get her straight!
 

jkust

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Wow I wasn't expecting your story to go this way. That boat looks so nice too. Really sorry to hear this. Suprised the floor didn't show any give when you were inside it when checking it out.
 

LippCJ7

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This thread just makes me sick, this is the reason people go Soprano on others, Frisco I am so sorry for what happened I don't know that I could have handled it so calmly. I think the seller knew about the situation thats why he had a cooler and life jackets on that spot and he clearly has no integrity and is a POS in my mind. On the other side of this is that once you replace the deck and stringers you will have a nearly new boat in fact the only thing that hasn't been done that I know of is the motor and outdrive. What did this little surprise cost you anyway? Freaking owner was a douchebag and he had you hook line and sinker. Heck of a way to start the new year isn't it.
 

BoatingCop

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Re: I have another boat in my sights. UPDATE 12-24-2010 SEA RAY 220 FOUND!!!

I just read this whole thread and was so excided for you, as I just got a Sea Ray myself and have really grown attached to them. I just wish mine had a big block in it. I wasn't expecting this outcome at all, and if the PO knew about this, it was really low of him especially since he probably knew you drove all the way from the great State of Texas. If I was closer I'd help you anyway I knew how. Do you ever make it down or near central Texas? May there are some Sea Ray get togethers in Texas we can hit up this summer. Anyways, keep your head up Jay and you'll have her better than new in no time with your skill and workmanship. You've still got a really nice boat! Good luck
 

Friscoboater

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Re: I have another boat in my sights. UPDATE 12-24-2010 SEA RAY 220 FOUND!!!

Thanks for all the support guys. I spent the day cutting out the deck to see how bad it is, and found what I did not want to see. The entire deck and stringers will have to go, and all with the cap in place. I think I have a game plane, but it is going to be slow going. The back side of my house is on the shade all day and it never really heats up. The stringers froze last night so I was working with ice most of the day.

This is going to be an epic build. No where near what Oops did, but still epic.
 

archbuilder

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Hang in there jay, sounds like you are making progress.......let me know if you need a hand!
 
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