I don't get it.....

[DJ]

Re: I don't get it.....

I would lend DJ my heart and expect that he would do the same for me.
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Likewise.

JB is a gentleman, he would never ask. However, I would offer. There is a difference.

 

[roscoe]

Re: I don't get it.....

I have cousins that I see less than once a year but would let them have the keys to my home and access to all my belongings. Sister, brother-in-law, one or two friends in the same category.

I have other other cousins that I try to avoid, and certainly don't let them know where I live or when I may be away from the homestead.

My father, lies somewhere in between.
I wouldn't trust him with my firearms as he is unfamiliar.
I wouldn't trust him with my boat as he has never operated one with more than a 25 hp tiller - at idle speed -- LOL.
Just too dangerous for him at his age.

I was actually lucky enough to meet a dozen fellow iboaters, and would probably lend all of them my boat, well.. except maybe one, but he has gone missing for about 4 years.


It all about the quality of character, and the knowledge of the individual.

 

[stic88]

Re: I don't get it.....

just by the way they talk on here, there are some people on iboats who i would lend anything including my boat to because they are of moral character, not having even met them. others i dont know about. but i have keys to one of my best friends house, both cars and anything he owns is at my disposal, as anything i have is at his.
if i see a person on the curb asking for money, i will give him some. what they doo with it is their business. i do it out of the kindness of my heart and it makes me feel good. because no one does anything unless they get something out of it. only if it is the good feeling they get.

 

[itsaboattime]

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Aren?t you a little over judging there?

My friend and I (I am one who have five friends and many people I know.) we spent 18 months in the sand box together, another 14 in Africa and a number of other little mud puddles around the globe and I?d give them my heart if they needed.

But, we also understand men and toys.

My best friend and spotter, who I can tell what he is thinking before he does; has a Springer that he saved to buy in the war. As much as I?d love to try it out, I know not to even ask.

If someone allows me the opportunity to ride their bike, I repay in kind. I don?t ask and do not seek it out.

BOFUS is not the newest or best boat out there, but she is mine I work on her, I wash her and I tend to her needs. So, as I am with my daughters I am a little hesitant to let it out of my sight in anyone else?s hands.

I tell my oldest daughters boyfriends ?Where ever you put your hands on her, I will put my hands on you. I got a shovel, 300 acres and enough documented PTSD to spend a few months with the VA and walk away a freeman? It is harsh but how it is.

As for my family, my dad?s side I?d loan it if they asked but our grandfather who worked in the coal mines from age 10 up taught us all not to borrow at all.

My mother?s side, I?d not even think of it. Their view is I have it all and got plenty of cash to replace it if they break it. I?ve experienced it and didn?t enjoy it.

So judge as you will, but never having meet me, broken bread with me or worked along side me; you only sell me and yourself short.

Well put.
I couldn't agree more.

 

[emoney]

Re: I don't get it.....

Ummm, I need to borrow somebody's boat for this weekend?? Who's turn is it?

 

[dlindeblad]

Re: I don't get it.....

It never ceases to amaze me how some people are. My family is just as bad. Lend them a power saw, a scaffold for construction, a compound miter saw, and its like they are too lazy to bring it back. Every time I go back to my Dad's I spend a few days collecting his cr*p back from the relatives.

My neighbor is just as bad. A month can go by and I will have to swing by his house and politley hint to get my stuff back; "Hey Jim, did you ever get that shelf cut with the circular saw and hung?" To which he will say "Oh yeah I still owe you that back." Sheez

I come from the old school mentality that when you borrow from someone you get it back pronto and in even better shape than it was when you borrowed it or even full of gas.

 

[emoney]

Re: I don't get it.....

I don't borrow things because of all the worry over returning it in both time
and better condition.

Like JB said, most of us probably rest in the middle of this discussion. I'm a
person who doesn't surround himself with people he doesn't trust so I don't
have to worry about those folks asking to borrow something. Truth is, if there
was one, I would say "no" too. But, family is a different story altogether I
suppose.

The easy solution is: don't have any friends and be mean to most of your
neighbors

 

[2000silvers2k]

Re: I don't get it.....

I didn't read all the responses, but it depends entirely on the item up for lending and the person who it is being lent to as well as the replacement cost of the item.

I have several friends wouldn't trust lending a pencil or a "phone book" to

and i also have several friends that I would trust with some items.

The boat I would not be able to easily replace and I do not really know anyone who knows a lot about them, so the boat would never be lent to anyone.

The sleds I would let a select few of my friends borrow without me going with them and I would let most friends ride a spare sled with me accompanying them.

Tools, depends on the friend and depends on the cost of the tool, the least tool i lent was a tile saw, not a high value item, lent to a friend i could trust, but I didn't get the saw back for almost 6 months when i was at his house, saw it and put it in the back of my truck.

I find people who let anyone borrow anything no matter what the situation either have a TON of money or do not really value their possessions.

As others have said, I work hard for my money and skimp in some areas so i can save in other areas so i can afford to buy the toys that I buy and I am not going to go loaning them out to people who have no clue what they are doing and cannot afford to replace or fix anything they may break.

 

[Limited-Time]

Re: I don't get it.....

The more I thing about this and discuss it with friends the I see there are two issues here. One is someone asking to borrow or use something. The other is the willingness to offer the use of something when you are comfortable with the person you are offering the item to. More times than not the items are offered without the recipient even asking.
Case in point, the bike I referred to in the initial post. I never asked if I could borrow the bike, that thought never crossed my mind.

 

[Bigprairie1]

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I feel I'm in the same boat (pardon the pun) as LimitedT here.
I didn't get some of the 'no way/no day' responses either.
I have a lot of trust in my friends...but I have clear distinction between friends vs. acquaintances.
As a result I know, and have witnessed my friends, stand up and be responsible when needed....no problem so of course I trust them.
There are people I know that I would look in the eye and simply say 'No..I'm not comfortable with loaning you that'. That is the direct part most 'disappointed loaners' weren't comfortable with saying at the time they loaned their last item.
Hey it's good to trust....just be smart about it
My two bits.
BP

 

[WIMUSKY]

Re: I don't get it.....

I feel I'm in the same boat (pardon the pun) as LimitedT here.
I didn't get some of the 'no way/no day' responses either.
I have a lot of trust in my friends...but I have clear distinction between friends vs. acquaintances.
As a result I know, and have witnessed my friends, stand up and be responsible when needed....no problem so of course I trust them.
There are people I know that I would look in the eye and simply say 'No..I'm not comfortable with loaning you that'. That is the direct part most 'disappointed loaners' weren't comfortable with saying at the time they loaned their last item.
Hey it's good to trust....just be smart about it
My two bits.
BP

Very well said.

 

[drrpm]

Re: I don't get it.....

I have lent cars, bicycles, tools etc. to good friends who are responsible and know how to correctly use whatever it is that I've lent. I have also borrowed cars etc. and always returned the borrowed item promptly and in good condition. Cars get returned washed and with a full tank of gas. So far it has always worked out well.

A powerboat is a different story. It requires skills that nonboat owners don't have and is generally just for recreation as opposed to being used to get to work or do a job. I don't borrow something unless there is a need and I don't see pleasure boating as a need.

That being said, if I had a good responsible friend with the skills to safely handle the boat and some real reason to use it, I'd let them borrow it.

 

[levittownnick]

Re: I don't get it.....

After reading the responses in the borrow/lend threads I am surprised at the number of "its mine and no one but me will ever use it" type attitudes.
I guess I was raised different, and hang with a different crowd. When the chance arises to help a friend of family member by loaning them my boat, bike, snowmobile, truck, tools..............whatever I do it willingly.
I was on vacation recently where a cousin lent me his bike to run around on for the week. Handed me the keys when I walked into his house. He knows if he ever comes to visit he has access to my home, boat, bike whatever. Don't get me wrong there are people I wont lend advise to. But true friends and family not a problem.

I love your attitude.
I'm just too up-tight and selfish to follow it.

God Bless,
Nick

 

[Limited-Time]

Re: I don't get it.....

I love your attitude.
I'm just too up-tight and selfish to follow it.

God Bless,
Nick

That's fair enough.

 

[aspeck]

Re: I don't get it.....

I agree, LT. It is a shame that we are so concerned about law suits and retribution that we can't give a helping hand any more. I guess for me there is a distinction between friends and acquaintances also. My friends would never ask ... because the ones that could handle and care for the tool, boat, car, etc, would have it offered to them before they could or would ask. The others would know they couldn't handle it and wouldn't ask.

On a different note, but the same vein, we, as a society, have lost the caring for others and doing things for others mentality. I remember a time when you had no use for an item you would GIVE it to a friend or relative who could use/needed it. Now we sell it at a yard sale. Just another sign of the times, I guess.

 

[DJ]

Re: I don't get it.....

I agree, LT. It is a shame that we are so concerned about law suits and retribution that we can't give a helping hand any more. I guess for me there is a distinction between friends and acquaintances also. My friends would never ask ... because the ones that could handle and care for the tool, boat, car, etc, would have it offered to them before they could or would ask. The others would know they couldn't handle it and wouldn't ask.

On a different note, but the same vein, we, as a society, have lost the caring for others and doing things for others mentality. I remember a time when you had no use for an item you would GIVE it to a friend or relative would could use/needed it. Now we sell it at a yard sale. Just another sign of the times, I guess.

I think a lot of people read me wrong. I lend stuff, all the time.

However, I have a family and friends that don't ask-I just OFFER. I then lend.

Hey, I give 20+% of my GROSS income to charity. I'm NO tightwad.

 

[Limited-Time]

Re: I don't get it.....

Why?.........................................................

As far as lending goes, FORGET IT. Our litigious society has determined that no one is responsible for what they do. "Lending" opens one up for far too many (legal) scenarios that are frightening.
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I think a lot of people read me wrong. I lend stuff, all the time.

However, I have a family and friends that don't ask-I just OFFER. I then lend.

Hey, I give 20+% of my GROSS income to charity. I'm NO tightwad.

Your initial post in this thread would leave most if not all of the readers to that conclusion.

Yet you do it freely to family and friends.

My initial statement was qualified: "Don't get me wrong there are people I wont lend advise to. But true friends and family not a problem."

 

[perchin]

Re: I don't get it.....

This is funny stuff..... arguments only get shut down when the mods are not part of em...ROFLMAO

 

[Tim Frank]

Re: I don't get it.....

This is funny stuff..... arguments only get shut down when the mods are not part of em...ROFLMAO

In my short time as a member here I've seen several threads with Mods weighing in, hard and heavy, get shut down.

If you are commenting on this thread, if there is anything that has crossed the standards of what is accepted comment in here, I haven't seen it.
It has been quite civil, really.

Could you be more specific about why you think this might be a candidate for the padlock?

 

[gonefishie]

Re: I don't get it.....

Aren't we a little early this year? Comon y'all, it only September and the water is a long way from being frozen.