Have We Forgotten!!!!!!!

trollhole

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With France's and Germany's announcements about<br />IRAQ - HAVE WE FORGOTTEN???<br /><br />"DO NOT FORGET "<br /><br />I sat in a movie theater watching "Schindler's List," asked myself, "why<br />didn't the Jews fight back?"<br /><br />Now I know why.<br /><br />I sat in a movie theater, watching "Pearl Harbor" and asked myself, "Why<br />weren't we prepared?"<br /><br />Now I know why.<br /><br />Civilized people cannot fathom, much less predict, the actions of evil<br />people.<br /><br />On September 11, dozens of capable airplane passengers allowed<br />themselves to<br />be overpowered by a handful of poorly armed terrorists because they did<br />not<br />comprehend the depth of hatred that motivated their captors.<br /><br />On September 11, thousands of innocent people were murdered because too<br />many<br />Americans naively reject the reality that some nations are dedicated to<br />the<br />dominance of others. Many political pundits, pacifists and media<br />personnel<br />want us to forget the carnage. They say we must focus on the bravery of<br />the<br />rescuers and ignore the cowardice of the killers. They implore us to<br />understand the motivation of the perpetrators. Major television stations<br />have announced they will assist the healing process by not replaying<br />devastating footage of the planes crashing into the Twin Towers.<br /><br />I will not be manipulated.<br /><br />I will not pretend to understand.<br /><br />I will not forget.<br /><br />I will not forget the liberal media who abused freedom of the press to<br />kick<br />our country when it was vulnerable and hurting.<br /><br />I will not forget that CBS anchor Dan Rather preceded President Bush's<br />address to the nation with the snide remark, "No matter how you feel<br />about<br />him, he is still our president."<br /><br />I will not forget that ABC TV anchor Peter Jennings questioned President<br />Bush's motives for not returning immediately to Washington, DC and<br />commented, "We're all pretty skeptical and cynical about Washington."<br /><br />And I will not forget that ABC's Mark Halperin warned if reporters<br />weren't<br />informed of every little detail of this war, they aren't "likely -- nor<br />should they be expected -- to show deference."<br /><br />I will not isolate myself from my fellow Americans by pretending an<br />attack<br />on the USS Cole in Yemen was not an attack on the United States of<br />America.<br /><br />I will not forget the Clinton administration equipped Islamic terrorists<br />and<br />their supporters with the world's most sophisticated telecommunications<br />equipment and encryption technology, thereby compromising America's<br />ability<br />to trace terrorist radio, cell phone, land lines, faxes and modem<br />communications.<br /><br />I will not be appeased with pointless, quick retaliatory strikes like<br />those<br />perfected by the previous administration.<br /><br />I will not be comforted by "feel-good, do nothing" regulations like the<br />silly "Have your bags been under your control?" question at the airport.<br /><br />I will not be influenced by so called, "antiwar demonstrators" who<br />exploit<br />the right of _expression to chant anti-American obscenities.<br /><br />I will not forget the moral victory handed the North Vietnamese by<br />American<br />war protesters who reviled and spat upon the returning Soldiers, Airmen,<br />Sailors and Marines.<br /><br />I will not be softened by the wishful thinking of pacifists who chose<br />reassurance over reality.<br /><br />I will embrace the wise words of Prime Minister Tony Blair who told<br />Labor<br />Party conference, "They have no moral inhibition on the slaughter of the<br />innocent If they could have murdered not 7,000 but 70,000, does anyone<br />doubt<br />they would have done so and rejoiced in it?<br /><br />There is no compromise possible with such people, no meeting of minds,<br />no<br />point of understanding with such terror. Just a choice: defeat it or be<br />defeated by it. And defeat it we must!"<br /><br />I will force myself to:<br /><br />-hear the weeping<br />-feel the helplessness<br />-imagine the terror<br />-sense the panic<br />-smell the burning flesh<br />- experience the loss<br />- remember the hatred.<br /><br />I sat in a movie theater, watching "Private Ryan" and asked myself,<br />"Where<br />did they find the courage?"<br /><br />Now I know.<br /><br />We have no choice. Living without liberty is not living.<br /><br />-- Ed Evans, MGySgt., USMC (Ret.)<br />Not as lean, Not as mean, But still a Marine.<br /><br />So very true. :mad:
 

NOSLEEP

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Re: Have We Forgotten!!!!!!!

A-MEN<br />When are the support your country and your<br />president, marches being held ?
 

JB

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Re: Have We Forgotten!!!!!!!

Right on, Top.<br /><br />Candy-butt wimps have gotten a lot more people killed than saved.<br /><br />Semper Fi!
 

12Footer

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Re: Have We Forgotten!!!!!!!

Brings a tear to my eye,and it's a cmfort to know I am not allone. Sometimes on these forums, I get discouraged by the constant barage of anti-adminstartion types,who, even tho they feel we must do something about terrorists, they choose to use the occasion of this time to bash Bush using this subject.The two are not interchangeable.
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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I feel all these points very well, especially about the 9/11 events. And I for one will never forget or forgive those responsible. :mad:
 

gonfishn

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Thank you Top(trollhole)....Your words hold a lot of wisdom and strong feelings which is lost on those who can't grasp on what you are trying to say.<br /><br />No-Sleep when lookin for support all you have to do is visit the VFWs,Elks or American Legion. Better yet look to the Pursian Gulf and see the supporters that are there(our troops). <br /><br />The protesters are a very small annoyance compared with the silent majority who love and will die for a cause they believe in and thats your freedom whether you want it or not..<br /><br />JB I think you meant "top" instead of "gunny" didn't you? Just as Top knows what a "doc" was with the Corp.
 

62_Kiwi

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Re: Have We Forgotten!!!!!!!

Well said Trollhole.<br /><br />"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival." <br /><br />Sir Winston Churchill
 

88spl

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Re: Have We Forgotten!!!!!!!

Excellent post Trollhole, you put facts in thier proper perspective, and meaning.
 

dkondelik

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Saturday, 22-Feb-03.<br />Indianapolis, Indiana.<br />Monument Circle.<br /><br />America may not have noticed (Dan, Peter, Tom, etc) but, inspite of the sleet, freezing rain, snow, wind and cold temperatures, We held a PRO-America Rally. Even in these conditions about 1500 folks turned out to show support for America and our troops.<br /><br />Perhaps "Fly-over Country", middle America, the silent majority, Does Remember.<br /><br />Dispite the best efforts of the pacifist/socialist left, it appears the the "Sleeping Giant" is waking up.<br /><br />Gog Bless America (and he Has!)
 
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DJ

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Klondike,<br /><br />Cheers to you!<br /><br />I would be willing to bet that at a Pro America rally nobody: gets arrested, tips over cars, starts fires or leaves trash laying around.<br /><br />Just an assumption, but I'll bet an accurate one.
 

rajuncajun91

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Yep we dont do the trashing we just get trashed as being warmongers and all kinds of other vile crap.Glad you were there klondike.
 

Reel Appeal

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Re: Have We Forgotten!!!!!!!

Well spoken Trollhole.I'm happy to see there are still "individuals" out there that can think for themselves.There are too many weak minded people out there who would rather be influenced and manipulated by others.Maybe if the media did not sanitize the news,complacent citizens would wake up!(maybe) :eek: People need to open thier eye's and comprehend whats really happening.Sadly,alot of folks don't take things seriously until it affects them personally and directly(such as 9/11).It's the "It did not happen to me,so I don't have to worry about it" syndrome.Human nature I guess. :( I wonder if the protestors knew who lead the protest in N.Y.Some Anti-American.org group I think.Too many morons with free speech.<br />I guess they think problems like Sadaam Hussien and North Korea take care of themselves.Thats a big gamble.Any threat to national or international security MUST be dealt with....
 

Kenneth Brown

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I would like to thank Klondike for what he did. I have decided to do something like that here in rural Texas. I doubt we will get as many people but we all need to organize one of these rallys.
 

dkondelik

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Mornin' Kenneth Brown,<br /><br />Our weekend weather was CRAP! but there was still a very healthy turnout.<br /><br />I have to confess, I just attended. I did not do the organizing. It is my understanding that a local Lawyer/Radio Talk Show host asked the folks to show up. The guys name is Garrison. He was the lawyer that got Tyson locked up for rape.<br /><br />As to Texas and a PRO-Rally, DO it! IF you can get a news outlet to anounce the event, You might get a pleasent surprise. <br /><br />The problem with a Rally is,.... well,...Unlike the Protesters, most folks who posatively care have jobs and families and other responsibilities. So you're alomst locked into doing it on a weekend<br /><br />Maybe the "Heart" of the country still has a moral concience. <br />But then,... maybe that's why we are refered to as "Fly-Over-Country". It helps to marginalize us to the point where we are deemed insignificant.<br />(Thanx Dan, Tom, Peter,...Hillary et al.)<br /><br />Dang! Hope you can make sence of this post. I just read it and ,...Bo-Howdy!,... I sure can ramble in a bunch of different directions
 

dkondelik

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Saturday, March 1, 2003<br />Martinsville, IN 46151<br />(Closest town to where I live)<br /><br />Announced this noon on radio.<br /><br />Pro-America Rally to be held near fair grounds.<br />All are invited to attend<br /><br />See you there <br />(I'll be the one with the Flag)<br /><br />WE REMEMBER!
 

rogerwa

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I heard something on the radio that rang very true about the liberals in this country.. They take every opportunity to point out the good in the most evil in the world, yet find every opportunity to allege evil in our own government.<br /><br />Check out these links.. I have this sign in my yard.. I have given some to my neighbors.. Maybe you could start this in your neighborhood..<br /><br /> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LiberateIraq/ <br /><br /> http://www.freedomdogs.com/stpaul.photos.html
 

plywoody

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One thing that rings true is that you are listening to far too much right wing talk radio.<br /><br />It does give great slogans and soundbites, but little of any substance.<br /><br />It is easier to debate when nothing of substance is offered, I suppose.
 

62_Kiwi

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Plywoody - if Britain and the USA had been dominated by peace-at-all-costs liberals over the last 60 or 70 years, then I dread to think what the state of this planet would be now.<br /><br />Would we all be speaking German or Russian or Japanese ? Would the USA be part of the 1000 year Reich ? Europe certainly would - but maybe only until Russian tanks rolled over her as she was absorbed into the USSR ? Would the Jewish race even exist now ?<br /><br />If you extend the logic of the peace-at-all-costs attitude - then maybe these people would have the world's police forces handing in their guns and other weapons... The police could then negotiate, plead and use diplomacy against the murderers, gangsters & terrorists.<br /><br />Plywoody, you're a clever guy and I know you'll have a clever answer to this, but I will still stay unconvinced. Force is a necessary evil and the civilised world still depends on it. The sad fact is - you have to clobber enemies like Saddam & bin Laden, because if you don't they will clobber you - it doesn't matter what the weapons inspectors do or don't find - or how much diplomacy you use.<br /><br />The UN's words are empty unless someone is prepared to back them up with force. I think the UN will lose all credibility if it fails to back positive action against Iraq. It will then be confirming that it's just a toothless tiger.<br /><br />I must say it's a luxury that conservatives are the majority on this board - and that we have a worthy and intelligent (yet misguided!) opponent such as yourself to argue with. Your presence here certainly keeps the topic alive.<br /><br /> :)
 
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