Glastron Sportster 1977

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OHh on the transom , splash well there you will never guess what i used to sand it ??? My brand new blet sander i go for christmas !! hahaha yea i know , but i had to , with me shoving all the glass behind there it was all uneven , and just put the sander on low and took most of it off , then saved the last for the sander !!

the transom splash well was on of the worst spots , the dash was another spot, where i filled the holes with the wood , and i still have to fill , On the lower left side i have some more plugs ready to get cemented in there !!

then the bow was another spot that was really bad !! not so much now still got some more sanding to do here , in fact when i was cleaning up there are a few spots all over that i need to hit again , nothing major just touch up !!

and then the spot over on the starboard side where the window mounts on the side here i need to hit a little more , but the top is smooth , really smooth !!!

 

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Ok now the transom is the worst spot, and the keel , what a mess my work bench is ,all the power tools i am useing are on it !! lol

well the top is really getting there, just about ready to marine-tex , i hope for the last time !! when i get to the sidews and the bottom i am hopeing that it will move a lot faster , wont have all the corners and all the ledges to deal with !! John

 

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Hi all,

Well i have been thinking about when i paint , the salamander blows a lot of air when i run it , won't it blow the paint so it won't level right ??? just how much wind can i let blow ?? lol or how long before it sets up where i can run the salamander ???I am just hoping by next month that it warms up into the 30's there has been one day sence January 4 that has been above 30 !!! if it does the salamander does a really great job getting it to the low 80's in the garage , when its in the single digits it makes it to the 70's !!

Well tomorrow plan is to get the top done and pull the rub rail !!! and start on the sides !! John

Ps TD did you use a primer on your ride ??

 

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Someone asked about my heater when going to paint !
I dont think that will be a problem , she burns petty hot !! I dont see anything flying when i fire her up !! I am more worried about the wind !! and how long before it sets up ??

And should i use primer ????? I was reading last night on the rustoleum site and it was talking about primer for fiberglass, but what about over the gelcoat ??

Also I was thinking that if i get it hot enought in there that the light will work , I can move them and they are hot !!

Ok now today , THE RUB RAIL IS OFF !!! lol the top is allmost done , I have to do some hand sanding , in the corners and along the lip , but where i am going to marine tex is set !!! so thursday , [ got to work tomorrow ] I am going to sand the sides and save some time at the end to marie tex !! I hope !! lol I also worked on the butt crack got it sanded out petty good !! I am hopeing i can get the side all sanded thur, and then the transom !!! John

 

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HI all ,

Well got about 7 hours on her today !! Man it took forever sanding just the transom !! Got just about 4 hours on that alone !! then moved on to the starboard side !! got that done !! so just the port side and the bottom !! then marine tex and sand the HOLE thing again !!

I didnt get to the marine tex anything today !

But when i was grinding on the transom and it didnt sound right in the center !! so i drilled a hole and sure enough there was a spot about one foot square that was just about 10 thousands between the ply wood and the glass !! so i got a srynge and pushed some epoxy in there !! got maybe a pint in it !!

I was also think that i should over drill the other holes, tape them off and fill them with epoxy !! didnt get that far but i am out of work tomorrow at 4 so i will get it then !! that way it will set up by next week !!

I also marine tex [ two weeks ago ] in the drain holes that is in the splash well !! I got it sanding on them also !! needs one more coat in there !! I will get some pics up !! tomorrow !!

Ok guys , still looking for a answer on the primer before the paint ??? do i need it ?? anyone ??? John

 

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Bare fiberglass should get primer, gel coat, I'm not sure. Here's my thought on it. Primer is used to create a bond between two dissimilar products. Paint has bonding agents built into it, but they are not as aggressive as the bonding agents in primers.

So, if you don't mind doing an initial coat with primer just to make sure the paint bonds, it isn't going to hurt anything.

If you are sure that every single sq. in. of the boat has been scuffed and wiped clean with acetone, leaving no trace of any wax or residue that could cause bad paint adhesion, then just paint the boat with the colors you are going to use.

 

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thats kind of what i was thinking , I am sure that i am taking it down to clean gel coat , I got enough sanding on this thing !!! Its really kind of a shame cause the white is turning out really great just the way it is , if it just didnt have the spiders in it where i had to marine tex it !! Thanks mike just need some to back me up in my own mind !! hahah you know what i mean !! John

 

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Hi guys and Gals

Well i wrote rusteloum yesterday looking for a clear coat ,that will work with the top side and my stiscker ?

this is there reply

Hi, I am painting my boat with top side rustoleum , and i was looking for a clear coat top go over a sticker i have ? Thanks John

ANSWER: Hi John-Thank you for contacting Rust-Oleum product support. We do have a clear aerosol coating, we have one in our Stops-Rust and Painter's Touch lines. However both have such a strong solvent content that I cannot recommend it over your sticker, as it may react with your sticker and cause wrinkling or bubbling. I apologize for any inconveniences this may cause. If you have any other questions or concerns please contact us again either via email or directly at 1-800-481-4785. Thanks and have a great day!-Amy

So it looks like I am looking for some more paint !! John

Ps looks like I will be using it for the trailor !!

 

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Before i headed over there had to run and get some more sanding disks , and some more kerosene. also ordered 100 disks off of ebay 50, 220 grit and 50, 800 grit , 31 bucks

So went to home cheapo when i got back and got 6 more cinder blocks !! going to lift the hole boat the height of the blocks and the jack stands !! two blocks side by side with the jack stands on top !! that is going to be more then high enough !!! pick up a suit for when i start painting !! some mineral spirits for the paint.

OOOOHHH man forgot the paint pans !! and also got 7 putty knifes for the marine tex , thought i would try a couple different ones , one is a 12 inch, blade down to a 1 inch blade !!! love birthday presents [ home depot cards !! still got two more I have to use , thats good need some more ply wood to remake the seats !!

Also think I got a center window for her !! just have to pay for the shipping !! should find out for sure this weekend !!

Ok got all my running i have to do so tomorrow i am going to hit it hard !!John

 

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Hay all ,

Well got about 7 hours on her today !! and didn't get no where near enough done on her, started on the Bow and started on the underneath, figured I would get started on the bottom , knowing that my arms aren't going to be able to handle doing the whole thing in one shot , the nematic sander isn't all that heavy but it still weighs 3 lbs or so !! so i got under the bow on the starboard side . when I was done with that , was hitting the bow , and keep going back over the starboad side , keep finding spot i didnt like , there was little waves , could them when i would run my hand on the side and top !! Is IT EVER GOING TO END ????? lol

Man i dint really think glasstron detailed the hull before they waxed her, The best way i can put it was that on the edges, where the side meets the bottom, that corner was lumpie , It wasn't smooth at all, there was 3 to 4 angles where the edge meets , Does that make sense ?? they are just little flats , like they didn't round over the edges !! Well it is now !!!!

While i was doing this and thinking how she ran last summer , I was thinking i am going to get a couple more Knots out of her , he is going to cut threw the water when I am done !!there is just no way that them flat were from wear and tear on the gel coat !!

All the little nicks and gouges I am grinding right out man you can really tell where i left off, [ I will get some pics up tomorrow or sat]

So I still got 3/4 of the bottom to do and most of the port side still to do !!! My arms are going to feel it tomorrow !! John

 

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OOOHH Yea it was great out there this afternoon , I even opened the garage door and ran the flat board sander on the hull for an hour tonight, when i got home from work !!!!

There still is a few spot that I'm not really happy with , the like little waves in her that i am going to get out if i have to marine tex the hole spot to get it really flat after i take it down to the fiberglass !! If i have to take it that far !! its right in the very top on the side !! I dont want them showing up when i paint her !!!!!!!!!!!!!

John

 

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Hi guys

Well found out what she did with the card , its in our photo picture viewer, should have thought of that one !! I will get pics up tomorrow !!

Well did anyone belive that i was going to get her all sanded ???

LOL I got a little over 3/4 of the bottom done !!!! and there is about 3 feet on the port side to do !!!! man my arms are ready to fall off !!Back hurts in 3 spots !! got about 8 1/2 hours on it today, the arms keep giving out so there was a lot of 5 mins breaks !! and had to clean the glasses !!

Well there is allways tomorrow !!lol If i can move ??? John

 

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Well not doing to bad today, sore but not to bad !!

THis has to be the longest part of the hole resto !!Seam like I have been doing this forever !! But she is getting there now !!

After work here the next couple days, I want to get the marine tex on so I can keep sanding next week !! It really shouldnt be that bad now got her all sanded just have to feather the marine tex in !! I am hoping I can get this next batch of sanding done in a couple days !!!

And still got to over size drill them holes on the transom , and fill them with epoxy !!! John

 

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Ok here it is the front bow is the frist one , you can see it looks petty good if i do say so !! lol

Ok the next pic is the port side front bow shot , you can see the start of the step, and where that seam is where they meet , it was all little lumps and I meam little bumps, its all smooth now !!

The next is the center keel , there was no gel coat in the one spot , there is one coat of marine tex on it now ,and its going to get one more good coat of marine tex!! Now that its all virgin gel coat !! In a couple pics you can see all the dust still on the hull !!

This next pic is penny out there helping take pics !!!

And this last pic is toward the back , keel .
You cant really tell but , on all the steps on the wings, they are all kind of cupped out,I hit them really easy thats why its taking so long, and i allways tried to grind the way the water would be comming off the hull !! Do you guys get what i mean ??? I was thinking I got to have just 23 hours sanding the hull , and the top has to have that !! so that is 46 hours so far , I will bet that I will have 60 plus hours in just sanding !! But she will look petty darn good when i am done , for a new 33 year old boat !! John

Where all the corners or seams as i called them before . i got all the lumps out of them , I got to have gained some speed off of how smooth she is now , I cant wait to get her out and see how much really !! I was thinking at least a couple of knots !!!!! John

 

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Ok Guys and Gals

I got home about 3;30 and go the heat going out there, its 70 in there now , and its 26 outside!!! I am going to get it about 80 in there , that should get every thing nice and warm , I got to keep it above 50 all night !!!! Tats the lowest cure rate for Marine-tex!! Its going to 20 out side tonight ,[ watching the news as i do this ]

I have already wiped her down 3 times with about half a roll of damp paper towels !!

As soon as it get warm enough out there. I am going to wipe it down with acetone. dont want to be doing that with the heater going !!! lol

Ok its 74 in there now !! heater has been going for just over Hour !!

Going to get a good part of her marine terxed ,and still got the transom to finish sanding and epoxied, and also have to sand that spot on the port side !! [ man they just said 2 to 4 inch's of snow tomorrow night !! I am really ready for spring ]

I figure I can grind tomorrow while the marine tex cures it takes 24 hours , at 72 !!!

So I am going to leave the lights going , [ 3 - 500 watt haligen lights ] it keep the garage in the high 60's last week , I got to keep the core of the boat warm for the next couple of days !! [ this is my friday again ]

Ok its 5:46 going to get it going !! John

 

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HI All

Well got the dash board, got the holes plugged and covered with marine tex !!! It is going to take some sanding to make that shape on the dash !!

also got the other side and top part of the helm and the port side console and got a really good coat on the transom part of the splash well ,where i ground it down to the glass !!!

worked and got a lot of the top part of the bow !!

Ohh and got the two parts where the diamond plate sits in the back, there was a wave in the in the one side i didnt like , I know the diamond plate covers it but its gone now !!!!!
along with a lot of spiders that i cleaned out and filled!!!!


Did about 3 hours out there,and It got too 65 out there in the garage in about 4 hours , when i turned off the heat it was 84 !! so I turned the heat on for the last half of a hour !! and got it back up to about 80, and i only really need 4 to 5 hours to where it sets up , but for it to fully cure it needs 24 hours at 72 !!

So at before i go to bed I am going to trun it on onces more and when i get up at 6:30 turn it on again !!

I also am going to leave the two light on !! yep two , one blew not ten mins after i got out there !!

And then tomorrow , hit the bottom with the marine tex and also the hole in the transom with the epoxy , and then finish grinding that spot on the port side !! Then i might test a spot tomorrow afternoon and see if i cant start sanding again !!! John

 

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Ok in the garage it was 54 out there , with just the two lights going all night !! I got the heat cracking up out there for the last half of a hour and its back up to 75 !!!

I touched a few spots of the marine tex and there hard !!

Ok the hope here is to get her all marine texed today and start sanding get the transom epoxied , and then I am hoping sanding gets done next week !!!!!!

Ok time to get at her !! John

 

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Ok all taking a break !! Man ohhh man , still marine texing !! lol fixing holes still , man they are a pain !! IT was 64 out there!! Where i really applied the marine tex there hard as a rock,but where I put it too just take a wave out [ a real thin lay ] it is still tacky !! so got the heat going again , on the port side there are a couple spots that i hit , I got to get them to cure !! the kids are allways running out to that fridge !!

On the can of marine tex it does say that a thin set takes longer to cure !!


So there is a couple more spot i am going to tex and then call it a day out there , got to get it all dry , keep touching spots that arent dry !! @^#%^%%##^ John

 

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OK all , well I didnt get done marine texing , I did get the holes drilled bigger, 3/8 bolt goes threw so i drilled them out 7/8 and filled then with epoxy, all of the turned out really well, except one and i can just fill that one with marine tex , it is allmost all the way full !! I will get some pics up later !!

I couldnt wait , I got started grinding the dash , its really turned out well , i have to go back over with the tex again in a couple spots but I am pleased so far , and also got going on the transom , it also is turning out petty nice !! there again one more coat of tex and it should be good !! john

 

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Ok heres some pics i took tonight !! this frist is the transom and you can see the holes ,And where i had the tape , good old duct tape, in the next few you can see them even bettter !! and i am trying to fill where the top meets the hull so i dont have to put the piece of angle iron back on !! Its going to be one solid transom !!!

Ok here is the one hole that didn't totally fill !! but it is a little over half way full and its cover in the back of the hole [ it must have gotten a air bubble there ] it will be easy to fill !!