Gas problems

Mark42

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Yesterday we pulled into a gas station, my wife driving her Mountaineer for a fill up. She buys the gas and we go. A mile or two down the road wife says the gas gauge hasn't moved. So we pull over and turn the truck off/on. Gauge is still on empty. So we decide to go back to the station, and while turing around on a hill, I can see the gauge moving as the gas sloshes around, so I know the gauge is working.

We pull into the same station, and I give the attendent the receipt and ask "Can you tell how many gallons of gas we bought from this receipt?" He looks at us, then the receipt (for $25) and starts to stammer, and asks "Didn't you get any gas?" I told him I think not. I think I paid $25 on a credit card for air. He looks worried, pumps a full tank (about $50) and subtracts the $25.

Off we go, narrowly avoiding being ripped off for $25.

Today, I pull in to a different station and get a fill in my car. After a while I think "it should be full by now...." and when I look, gas is pouring all over the ground and the attendent is clicking off the nozzel. I take a quick look at the growing puddle of gas and estimate it is probably about a quart or two. They subtracted a $1.33 for the spilled gas at my request (my guess) and off I go.

They say trouble comes in threes.... I wonder whats next?
 

Gary H NC

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Geeze Mark! They are out to get you:eek:

Why is New Jersey one of the only states i know of that has no self serve gas stations?
 

i386

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Had little problem myself the other day. I went for my first fill up in the new truck and the pump stopped at $65. So I go in to see what happened and they tell me the pumps are programmed to do that. We, since I've never before pumped $65 worth of gas in my life I took their word for it.
 

kenmyfam

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I prefer to pump my own for the simple reason that the attendants around here usually rattle the nozzle around and bang around in general in the area of the filler, quite often chipping paint.
 

Pony

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I think I have seen one or two gas stations in my entire life that even offered Full Service......I have never seen anyone use it. Always Self Serve.
 

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It makes me happy we have self serve here in VT.
 

Mark42

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Hey Pony!

For some reason, NJ only has full service. You are not allowed to pump gas even if you want to. But, I have pumped it lots of times and only occassionally get a comment from the attendant.

The best attendants are usually the ones with a mental disability. They actually take pride in having a job. But more often, the attendant is a loser who really doesn't give a crap about you or your car.

I got a chuckle when I heard this 18 or 19 year old girl complain (while squeezing a tube of Neosporin ointment into her mouth) that her tongue piercing was infected and wouldn't heal. It must have really hurt because I could hardly understand anything she said. She also had a lip piercing that wasn't looking too healthy either.
 

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Its amazing really.....I never really thought about this before, just always assumed it was the same everywhere.

The few Full Service pumps I have seen were at least $.80 higher than the Self-Serve pump.

Maybe she got some gas on those piercings;)
 

kenmyfam

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Hey Pony!

For some reason, NJ only has full service. You are not allowed to pump gas even if you want to. But, I have pumped it lots of times and only occassionally get a comment from the attendant.

The best attendants are usually the ones with a mental disability. They actually take pride in having a job. But more often, the attendant is a loser who really doesn't give a crap about you or your car.

I got a chuckle when I heard this 18 or 19 year old girl complain (while squeezing a tube of Neosporin ointment into her mouth) that her tongue piercing was infected and wouldn't heal. It must have really hurt because I could hardly understand anything she said. She also had a lip piercing that wasn't looking too healthy either.

Those piercings eh !!!! They know best don't they !!!! LOL
 

roscoe

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So Mark, what was the explanation for the $25 of air?

We have 7 gas stations in my town.
1 offers gas filling service, Tuesday and Thursday.
Their prices are always 17 cents higher than the rest.

The other offers FULL service, windshield cleaning, oil, air, and all fluid checks, if you ask for it. Their prices are the same as all the self service stations, and only 2 cents more for premium. Truly a blast from the past.
 

SS MAYFLOAT

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Thanks for the info about NJ having full service. Don't think I'll make plans to go through there ever. If the state doesn't have enough trust in residents to pump their own gas, I don't think I'll trust them to drive right either.

We have a few full service stations with the same low price as the self serve has. Just don't know what their water to fuel ratio is.
 

rwise

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my worst gas adventure pulled into a self serv place, pumped about 18 g of gas,,, not,,, got down the road a mile or so and the car died out, drained 18 g of water out of the tank! Dont know what Dad told them but we never went back, they lasted a few months and closed.
Here, good luck finding a full service station when self serv hit nobody used them anymore. There are still a couple around but even they have self serv pumps. My big complant is quick trip, I pulled into one and filled up a 12 g tank, at quick trip it held 16 g and had a 1/4 tank when I pulled in, yes I complained, then called OCC :rolleyes: (Oklahoma Corparation Comission(sp))
 

Mark42

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Thanks for the info about NJ having full service. Don't think I'll make plans to go through there ever. If the state doesn't have enough trust in residents to pump their own gas, I don't think I'll trust them to drive right either....

I don't think it has anything to do with the state trusting its residents to pump gas. I has more to do with the New Jersey Gasoline Retailers Association....


Monday, May 08, 2006

NJ rejects self-service gas
By Mark K. Matthews, Stateline.org Staff Writer


MARLTON, N.J. -- To figure out New Jersey, head to the highway.

It's how state residents commute to New York City and Philadelphia. It's how Jerseyites go to the shore. For better or worse, it?s part of the state?s identity. The Garden State has no hometowns, goes the lame old joke -- only highway exit numbers.

So when gas prices recently started climbing, Gov. Jon Corzine (D) suggested the state test self-service pumps to lower the cost of traveling.

The result was a near revolt.

In the days following Corzine's suggestion, his office was flooded with 1,400 e-mails and phone calls -- the biggest and fastest response to an issue the governor has received since taking office in January. Nearly all were in opposition.

Sensing a political disaster, Corzine backed off less than a week after he floated the idea of testing self-service along the New Jersey Turnpike. New Jersey, together with Oregon, will remain the last two full-service states in the country.

"I'm not against a lot of things, but I don't want to pump my own gas. It's part of the Jersey identity. It's our thing," said Rose Maurice, who operates a tourism office at a turnpike rest stop.

To the rest of the country, New Jersey's opposition to self-service may seem outdated. But those who prefer having someone else pump gas say it makes common sense.

"Oil is different than any other business," said Bill Dressler, who heads the New Jersey Gasoline Retailers Association & Allied Trades. The group represents 2,200 of the 3,800 gas stations in the state, and its influence in Trenton is often cited as the reason lawmakers have resisted self-service since the state banned the practice in 1949.

While the governor's office estimates switching to self-service could save drivers six cents a gallon, Dessler said oil companies would lay off gas station attendants and pocket the difference.

Then there's the issue of safety. About 8.7 million residents live in the state and many of them, including more than one million senior citizens, have little experience in pumping gas. Assemblyman Francis L. Bodine (R) said this is one reason he's opposed to the idea. Plus, "If I'm dressed up, I don?t want to get out and smell like a gas pump," said Bodine, who represents the Mount Laurel area near Philadelphia.

Eight hours of training is required of gas station attendants, Dressler said. Among their responsibilities are knowing which type of containers cannot store gasoline, such as glass. "It's a dangerous product and they are trained in the correct procedures," he said.

At a Lukoil station in Marlton, Tony Singh moves from car to car taking credit cards and filling up tanks. Singh has worked as a gas station attendant for more than five years, and he said Corzine's proposal sent chills through the industry.

"So many gas station workers are scared. In a store with four guys, three of them would lose their jobs" if the self-service proposal passed, he said. Under Corzine's plan, eight of the 12 rest areas along the turnpike would have been fitted with credit-card readers, Kris Kolluri, the state's transportation commissioner, told The New York Times.

The self-service idea was part of a larger transportation package that Corzine introduced on April 27. Some other ideas, which were far less controversial, included creating a director of energy savings and providing incentives for fuel-efficient cars.

Unlike many neighbors, New Jersey has not seen the worst of the recent spike in gasoline prices. On Friday afternoon, the average price of regular gas in New Jersey was $2.88. The average was $3.11 in New York, $3 in Connecticut and $2.96 in Pennsylvania, according to the American Automobile Association (AAA).

Dressler -- and other foes of self-service, including AAA -- argue the price of gasoline is kept low because of the presence of gas station attendants. Paying these workers cuts into the profits of big oil companies, who then avoid the state, allowing smaller companies such as Lukoil to remain competitive and keep prices down, they say.

That theory is not universal.

Jim Benton, executive director if the New Jersey Petroleum Council, said the self-service ban is depriving New Jersey residents of lower gas prices. The price isn't tied to competition, he said. It relates to the low state tax on motor oil, which is the third lowest in the nation at 14.5 cents on the gallon, Benton said.

"New Jersey residents think they are getting a bargain for full service, but the bargain is the low motor fuel tax. A dedicated attendant, with no other job than to pump gasoline, can be redirected to being a mechanic or working at a convenience store," Benton said.
 

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Read the title of the thread and was ready to suggest Bean-o :p:p!! Oh well, never mind.;):):D
 

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Eight hours of training is required of gas station attendants, Dressler said. Among their responsibilities are knowing which type of containers cannot store gasoline, such as glass. "It's a dangerous product and they are trained in the correct procedures," he said.
What type of moron takes 8 hours of training to learn how to pump gas?:confused:
 

Haut Medoc

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What type of moron takes 8 hours of training to learn how to pump gas?:confused:
Never been to Jersey, have ya?......;):D
Just make sure the moron who is pumping gas into your boat does not mistake your pole holder for the gas fill!........:eek:
I once narrowly averted disaster on that one......:rolleyes:
The upside is that is provides jobs for the brain-dead.....
Ya just gotta keep your eye on them......
It is a very inefficient system......
One other + is you don't have to get out of your car to pump gas on those balmy Jan & Feb days........:)
 
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