Eat that, hybrids!

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We take perfectly good diesel engines and screw them up so they'll run on natural gas . . .

:eek::eek::eek: Your going to give me nightmares of my old 1693 Kitty Cat ;) She's rolling over at the thought right now LOL
 

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But you can put a hybrid driveline behind a diesel . . . ;)

Maybe, if they could find a way to make a diesel start instantly.

Somehow Toyota had managed to do it with our Highlander hybrid. The gas engine justs starts running, when it wants to. It does not "turn over", with a conventional starter, like every other gas engine.
 

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What i dont get, is the fact that it takes all this new technology, and they cant get any better around town mileage than my old 89 Honda CRX. I used to get between 48mpg and 52mpg around town and topped 60 plus on the highway(which I didnt do often). What do these new cars get in real world situations, like I used my CRX?? I havent seen or heard anyone boasting much better, if any better.
 

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:eek::eek::eek: Your going to give me nightmares of my old 1693 Kitty Cat ;) She's rolling over at the thought right now LOL
We've actually done her successor, the C15, 550 bhp and 1650 lb/ft torque, 90% gas 10% diesel. This is a rating the '93 never did on 100% diesel, and I know her very well . . . ;)
 

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Well, as long as this thread is so hijacked>>>>>>>:eek::D:p
 

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What i dont get, is the fact that it takes all this new technology, and they cant get any better around town mileage than my old 89 Honda CRX. I used to get between 48mpg and 52mpg around town and topped 60 plus on the highway(which I didnt do often). What do these new cars get in real world situations, like I used my CRX?? I havent seen or heard anyone boasting much better, if any better.

The nearest comparison to the CR-X would be the Honda Fit. The main difference would be that the Fit weighs 2500 lbs versus the CR-X's 2000 lbs, and the Fit has nearly twice the HP of the 1.5 L 62 hp D15B6 I4.
I could be wrong, but I doubt that there would be much of a market for a <75 hp, 0.5 star crash rated vehicle now.
Even the tiny Smart car weighs 1800 lbs, ands a Mini Cooper is close to 2600 lbs.
 

jtmarten

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Well, as long as this thread is so hijacked>>>>>>>:eek::D:p

Are they for generating electricity, or pre-heating water?

I've been wanting to build a simple solar water heater for a few years and just haven't gotten to it. A simple system to heat a water bath that my water heater feed line is immersed in, maybe 75-100' coil. I'd hope to get 120-130* bath temp. 4x8' plywood with 50-75' of 3/8" soft copper tubing run back and forth per panel, all painted flat black, with a solar pond pump pushing water (< 1gal min) - if it's sunny enough to kick on the pump, it's sunny enough to heat water. Later on I'd add a temp controller to run the pump only when the panel reaches a certain temp, and shutting down when the bath reaches a high temp. Once I add the temp controller, I have a flojet 1gal/min pump I'll use.
 

Howard Sterndrive

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Maybe, if they could find a way to make a diesel start instantly.

they did- it's called "stop/start technology"

the car in the article has "stop/start technology" it says

same as some golf carts have had for 40 years
 

marlboro180

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Are they for generating electricity, or pre-heating water?

I've been wanting to build a simple solar water heater for a few years and just haven't gotten to it. A simple system to heat a water bath that my water heater feed line is immersed in, maybe 75-100' coil. I'd hope to get 120-130* bath temp. 4x8' plywood with 50-75' of 3/8" soft copper tubing run back and forth per panel, all painted flat black, with a solar pond pump pushing water (< 1gal min) - if it's sunny enough to kick on the pump, it's sunny enough to heat water. Later on I'd add a temp controller to run the pump only when the panel reaches a certain temp, and shutting down when the bath reaches a high temp. Once I add the temp controller, I have a flojet 1gal/min pump I'll use.

It is for domestic hot water, plus space heating. Right now the tanks are at 130*, collectors are at 170*.Enough "Pre"-heat? :D:) A simple pre- heat system like you are speaking of sounds nice and effective too!

Here is a link that is pretty fun to cruise around and get some ideas:

http://www.builditsolar.com/index.htm
 

mscher

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they did- it's called "stop/start technology"

the car in the article has "stop/start technology" it says

same as some golf carts have had for 40 years

If that's the case, then there should be no reason a diesel could not be designed into a hybrid. Mileage would increas significantly.

Wonder what the hold-up would be?
 

Howard Sterndrive

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If that's the case, then there should be no reason a diesel could not be designed into a hybrid. Mileage would increas significantly.

Wonder what the hold-up would be?

diesel electric hybrid technology has been around for years
I have seen it on municipal garbage trucks
Volvo has a hybrid wheel loader.
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