Eat that, hybrids!

[HVAC Cruiser]

Re: Eat that, hybrids!

We take perfectly good diesel engines and screw them up so they'll run on natural gas . . .

Your going to give me nightmares of my old 1693 Kitty Cat She's rolling over at the thought right now LOL

 

[mscher]

Re: Eat that, hybrids!

But you can put a hybrid driveline behind a diesel . . .

Maybe, if they could find a way to make a diesel start instantly.

Somehow Toyota had managed to do it with our Highlander hybrid. The gas engine justs starts running, when it wants to. It does not "turn over", with a conventional starter, like every other gas engine.

 

[mnypitboat]

Re: Eat that, hybrids!

What i dont get, is the fact that it takes all this new technology, and they cant get any better around town mileage than my old 89 Honda CRX. I used to get between 48mpg and 52mpg around town and topped 60 plus on the highway(which I didnt do often). What do these new cars get in real world situations, like I used my CRX?? I havent seen or heard anyone boasting much better, if any better.

 

[QC]

Re: Eat that, hybrids!

Your going to give me nightmares of my old 1693 Kitty Cat She's rolling over at the thought right now LOL

We've actually done her successor, the C15, 550 bhp and 1650 lb/ft torque, 90% gas 10% diesel. This is a rating the '93 never did on 100% diesel, and I know her very well . . .

 

[marlboro180]

Re: Eat that, hybrids!

Well, as long as this thread is so hijacked>>>>>>>

 

[tx1961whaler]

Re: Eat that, hybrids!

What i dont get, is the fact that it takes all this new technology, and they cant get any better around town mileage than my old 89 Honda CRX. I used to get between 48mpg and 52mpg around town and topped 60 plus on the highway(which I didnt do often). What do these new cars get in real world situations, like I used my CRX?? I havent seen or heard anyone boasting much better, if any better.

The nearest comparison to the CR-X would be the Honda Fit. The main difference would be that the Fit weighs 2500 lbs versus the CR-X's 2000 lbs, and the Fit has nearly twice the HP of the 1.5 L 62 hp D15B6 I4.
I could be wrong, but I doubt that there would be much of a market for a <75 hp, 0.5 star crash rated vehicle now.
Even the tiny Smart car weighs 1800 lbs, ands a Mini Cooper is close to 2600 lbs.

 

[JaSla74]

Re: Eat that, hybrids!

Prius vs BMW M3

Although more entertainment than science it is interesting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKTOyiKLARk

 

[jtmarten]

Re: Eat that, hybrids!

Well, as long as this thread is so hijacked>>>>>>>

Are they for generating electricity, or pre-heating water?

I've been wanting to build a simple solar water heater for a few years and just haven't gotten to it. A simple system to heat a water bath that my water heater feed line is immersed in, maybe 75-100' coil. I'd hope to get 120-130* bath temp. 4x8' plywood with 50-75' of 3/8" soft copper tubing run back and forth per panel, all painted flat black, with a solar pond pump pushing water (< 1gal min) - if it's sunny enough to kick on the pump, it's sunny enough to heat water. Later on I'd add a temp controller to run the pump only when the panel reaches a certain temp, and shutting down when the bath reaches a high temp. Once I add the temp controller, I have a flojet 1gal/min pump I'll use.

 

[Howard Sterndrive]

Re: Eat that, hybrids!

Maybe, if they could find a way to make a diesel start instantly.

they did- it's called "stop/start technology"

the car in the article has "stop/start technology" it says

same as some golf carts have had for 40 years

 

[marlboro180]

Re: Eat that, hybrids!

Are they for generating electricity, or pre-heating water?

I've been wanting to build a simple solar water heater for a few years and just haven't gotten to it. A simple system to heat a water bath that my water heater feed line is immersed in, maybe 75-100' coil. I'd hope to get 120-130* bath temp. 4x8' plywood with 50-75' of 3/8" soft copper tubing run back and forth per panel, all painted flat black, with a solar pond pump pushing water (< 1gal min) - if it's sunny enough to kick on the pump, it's sunny enough to heat water. Later on I'd add a temp controller to run the pump only when the panel reaches a certain temp, and shutting down when the bath reaches a high temp. Once I add the temp controller, I have a flojet 1gal/min pump I'll use.

It is for domestic hot water, plus space heating. Right now the tanks are at 130*, collectors are at 170*.Enough "Pre"-heat? A simple pre- heat system like you are speaking of sounds nice and effective too!

Here is a link that is pretty fun to cruise around and get some ideas:

http://www.builditsolar.com/index.htm

 

[mscher]

Re: Eat that, hybrids!

they did- it's called "stop/start technology"

the car in the article has "stop/start technology" it says

same as some golf carts have had for 40 years

If that's the case, then there should be no reason a diesel could not be designed into a hybrid. Mileage would increas significantly.

Wonder what the hold-up would be?

 

[Howard Sterndrive]

Re: Eat that, hybrids!

If that's the case, then there should be no reason a diesel could not be designed into a hybrid. Mileage would increas significantly.

Wonder what the hold-up would be?

diesel electric hybrid technology has been around for years
I have seen it on municipal garbage trucks
Volvo has a hybrid wheel loader.