Do you think you will change after this Corona thing has been defeated?

[achris]

Haven't read all 10 pages and so this may be way, way off topic but our " normal " world may be about to change greatly tomorrow, depending on the results on a virus test,

And possibly quite a lot more other folk in this very small one horse and two pony town

Thanks to a international tourist who did not isolate after being so informed as required and went on a 3 day local charter yacht two weeks or so ago and then showed the symptoms ...the yacht company weren't told either

Long story short...specalist ambos had to be transported up and carted the person off to hospital where he was confirmed positive,

Crew members were isolated at the time but now a number of locals have come down with symptoms as a result of being in contact with someone who had helped with the unloading, even though they weren't anywhere near the marina at the time,

Including both my sons...whose partners are both pregant...very concerning,

And many other townspeople...and businesses... here are waiting on tenderhooks as well,

just venting...

The manure may be about to hit the cooling device here

Oh crap! That's just ****. Thoughts are with you from Perth...

Not sure if you're aware. A few days ago a bunch of doctors came back from a 'conference' in Chile, didn't self-isolate for the required 14 days before flying out to their respective home cities. Cops have rounded them up and issued them all with $1,000 fines... Too right!

When are people going to get it. This thing is dangerous, and EVERYBODY needs to do their bit to stop it.

I've been watching the WHO and local state health department websites, also reading our own CSIRO research data. I really wish everybody did that. They might get a better understanding of just how bad this is, and when told 'Stay at home', they know why. Instead of this bloody-minded attitude of 'the government isn't going to tell ME what to do!'... FFS!

My mother (80 years old, and with Bronchiectasis) and I visit each other normally at least every week. She's staying at home, not accepting visitors for the last 2 weeks. We talk every day by phone, we message using Telegram many times a day. Given the alternative, it's not that hard....

For christ sake people, STAY AT HOME!

 

[GA_Boater]

Tassie 1 You understood this thread without reading the whole thing. Also in the ten days since it was started, many things have changed and I wish it was all positive. For many feelings change when it becomes personal and I hope sharing what you and your family are experiencing will influence others. Thank you and hoping the results are good tomorrow and in the future.

achris $1000 isn't enough! On this side of the world in the US, some are places are issuing fines as well, starting at $50, again not enough. With all my heart, bless your Mum.

For christ sake people, STAY AT HOME!

For your own sake, follow that advice!

It shouldn't take a government order to take the first step to beating this. Younger people were misled in the beginning by seeing reports that this is focused on older and those compromised by pre-existing health issues. Guess what? All age groups are catching C19, even the robust and healthy are dying. This not the flu or a bad cold.

The proverb "Charity begins at home" is attributed to a 15th century theologian. In the 21st century it should be "Survival begins at home". If you don't protect yourself, don't expect protection from C19 outside of your home.

Stay safe out there. If you absolutely have to go out as some must do, whether you are essential or need groceries, wash your hands as soon as you are back in your home and sanitize the door knobs you touched on the way in.

 

[bassman284]

Well it's kinda harsh. I'm getting a little cabin fever myself even though social distancing is what I do pretty much all the time. Difference is a month or two ago I was doing it because I WANTED to. Now I'm doing it because I HAVE to.

 

[racerone]

Governments are notorious for re-acting to a crisis I think.----We all know the reason behind traffic lights in certain locations.-----We know that an airline pilot must be certified to fly a particular plane.-----But as we speak automobiles are changing a little each year.------One vehicle will have wiper switch on the left side and another on the right etc.-----My guess is that in some vehicles I would not be able to turn the radio on or off.----Just need a simple drivers permit to step into a new one and roard down the highway.-------I believe this virus is going to need a complete new book of rules for human behavior.----Where would you start ?----I just read that in India doctors and nurses are being kicked out of their houses because they work where the virus is !!

 

[JimS123]

My guess (and I hope and pray) that with all the attention this is being given, and all the people working on it, that before long there will be a vaccine to prevent it and a med to treat it.

The only question is how long is the long.

 

[GA_Boater]

The president of Ghana said;

"We know how to bring the economy back to life. What we do not know is how to bring people back to life."

 

[BWR1953]

Haven't read all 10 pages and so this may be way, way off topic but our " normal " world may be about to change greatly tomorrow, depending on the results on a virus test,

And possibly quite a lot more other folk in this very small one horse and two pony town

Thanks to a international tourist who did not isolate after being so informed as required and went on a 3 day local charter yacht two weeks or so ago and then showed the symptoms ...the yacht company weren't told either

Long story short...specalist ambos had to be transported up and carted the person off to hospital where he was confirmed positive,

Crew members were isolated at the time but now a number of locals have come down with symptoms as a result of being in contact with someone who had helped with the unloading, even though they weren't anywhere near the marina at the time,

Including both my sons...whose partners are both pregant...very concerning,

And many other townspeople...and businesses... here are waiting on tenderhooks as well,

just venting...

The manure may be about to hit the cooling device here

Sorry to hear of your situation and I hope the testing all turns out well!

Pretty tense here in our household for the last few days too. My wife started having an unexpected dry cough 3 days ago and we started in home isolation for her. She's been trying to get through to the county health department to see if she can be tested but the phone lines are swamped. :uncomfortableness:

 

[gm280]

Reading some of these stories, it seem to me it is always those with the idea that "I won't get it" attitudes are the ones that spread it around and then try to make amends with a mere I'm sorry statement. The doctors are a prime example in one of the stories. I honestly hope that the test for Tassie and family are negative.

As for life changing, with the exception of not eating out, our lives are pretty much the same. We were really never party people and didn't go to many gatherings either. We were home-bodies all our lives and like it that way. But we do miss the restaurant visits...

I hope everyone stays safe and sane and comes through this unscathed... And I surely hope that when we start hearing the no more new cases have been reported, that people don't jump the gun and go out and party. A second dose would be even more devastating for sure... JMHO!

 

[JimS123]

Reading some of these stories, it seem to me it is always those with the idea that "I won't get it" attitudes are the ones that spread it around and then try to make amends with a mere I'm sorry statement. The doctors are a prime example in one of the stories. I honestly hope that the test for Tassie and family are negative.

As for life changing, with the exception of not eating out, our lives are pretty much the same. We were really never party people and didn't go to many gatherings either. We were home-bodies all our lives and like it that way. But we do miss the restaurant visits...

I hope everyone stays safe and sane and comes through this unscathed... And I surely hope that when we start hearing the no more new cases have been reported, that people don't jump the gun and go out and party. A second dose would be even more devastating for sure... JMHO!

I agree completely, as our lives are quite similar.

My wife is a retired teacher, yet she subs nearly 5 days a week just because loves the kids and wants to stay active. Obviously, her income now is zero, but we really don't need the money so we'll survive. A side benefit is that she always brings home stuff from those snot-nosed kids, but right now that can't happen.

My real concern is for all the young families that now have no paycheck. Car payments, mortgages, not to mention credit card debt because they need to buy food. How can they ever recover?

If the president of Ghana has all the answers, maybe he should be summoned to Washington, because the economic recovery ain't a gonna be easy.

 

[Old Ironmaker]

Tassie 1 . I pray it all works out for your family and yourself. I have said it before and as each day passes and I believe it more strongly today. The World will not be the same World we had prior to C19. It will change more drastically as far as travelling for example than 911 changed all the rules including what we first felt were infringements on our civil freedoms that we took for granted and now is the norm.

Too lighten the mood a bit Tassie 1, you have ponies and a horse? Our little hamlet doesn't even have a goat let alone a horse.

 

[Scott Danforth]

Here are some things in the Danforth household that wont change.....

keeping wipes in the vehicles to wipe down gas pump handles, etc....... witnessing some tank-top-wearing redneck digging inside his underwear while at the pump the other day was enough to permanently make that a requirment

cutting my own hair...... been doing it for years with a Wahl trimmer, why stop now

a good stock of beer and liquor....... (I am from Wisconsin, its in my DNA)

re-thinking long-term financial strategy.

A few things that may change permanently in retail settings - sneeze guards


Here are some things that will go back to normal......

Having friends over (although I may take their temperature with my IR temp gun)

Boating...... the Rogue will be done soon, and the boat ramps will open up again.

 

[GA_Boater]

If the president of Ghana has all the answers, maybe he should be summoned to Washington, because the economic recovery ain't a gonna be easy.

He didn't say he has all the answers. His point was dead people are gone forever, whereas an economy can be revived. The Great Depression and Recession are the largest examples along with smaller ups and down. People maintain an economy. Very simplistically, more people = more growth and less people = less growth. So the first step is getting people healthy, then the economy follows.

 

[JimS123]

Tassie 1

Too lighten the mood a bit Tassie 1, you have ponies and a horse? Our little hamlet doesn't even have a goat let alone a horse.

My wife and son have 3 horses and 3 goats. For personal reasons they moved the horses to a wonderful stable in our neighboring township, and the goats to a neighboring county. All are well and having awesome care, but both facilities are limiting exposure of outsiders. Need to make contact so too many people don't show up at the same time. (not a problem - we're all adapting)

Boy, you should see how the flock jumps up and down when they get to see "Mom" and "brother".

(maybe "flock" ain't the right term)

PS - And on another subject, after going thru all the recent moves and issues, I am certain that horses are smarter than people and goats are nicer than people.

 

[DeepCMark58A]

To be honest not a lot has changed other than not heading to the airport every week. Traffic is much better, I still go to work every day. My wife works at the school she is still going in 1 day a week and working remotely, she is off for the summer 2 months early. Our fridge is stocked as well as before, plenty of produce. Minnesota while shut down you can go to the post office, grocery store, gas station, hardware store, heck even the bait shop is open. Cabala's in Rogers is still open. My wife usually grocery shop 1 time a week, we go at 6 am on Saturday morning now after the store had been closed and sanitized and less people. We did not go out to restaurants much before this all went down and even rarer that we would go out to a bar.

 

[achris]

Well it's kinda harsh. I'm getting a little cabin fever myself even though social distancing is what I do pretty much all the time. Difference is a month or two ago I was doing it because I WANTED to. Now I'm doing it because I HAVE to.

:facepalm: Sounds like you'd never survive working offshore. You get to live in 2 very small cabins. One is the 'control room', a 20' container that you see the inside of for 12 hours a day, oh and with at least 2 other people, and all the electrical and electronic gear, which occupies at least half the container. And, apart from meals, the other is your 'cabin', which has an upper and a lower bunk, a SMALL shower/bathroom, a wardrobe for hanging your clothes, a small couch and a desk for a laptop computer. Those cabins are usually about 4m x 3m... That's my world, when I was working, 6 weeks at a time. If I can live with that, I'm damn sure you can put up with a house on 6 or so hundred metres, and you do get to go and walk, and shopping. Stop moaning!

Chris.....

 

[Tassie 1]

Thank you all for the kind words and thoughts,
very much appreciated

we watch all this happening in different parts of the world from this little island state and think we will be ' ok ' coz we live away from large population centres...then the phone rings...

My wife spoke to her friend, the local doctors daughter...herself the medical manager of the Community Health Centre...and they are expecting a positive return for the council worker who helped unload the yacht of it's infected passenger so that will have huge repercussions locally if that is the case,

And for his family, workmates and friends,
He is also the local harbour master,

A lot happening everywhere, regardless of where we all live,

We are retired and are doing as the govt says, only going out if necessary or to check on our two boats that are in the marina or on a mooring, fortunately they are only a block away for one and a couple of minutes for the other,
I don't need to get out of the car for either,

my eyes alone are still good enough to see if they have sunk,

All the best and keep safe, follow the rules about social distancing etc etc

 

[achris]

...and they are expecting a positive return for the council worker who helped unload the yacht of it's infected passenger so that will have huge repercussions locally if that is the case,

And for his family, workmates and friends,
He is also the local harbour master,...

Hey Tassie. Really sad to hear what's happening to you and your community.

I'm hoping some of the 'she'll be right mate' people see this and realise just how contagious this little nasty actually is.

I've been saying right from the beginning that the transmission rate of this virus is like nothing we've ever seen, and people STILL don't get it. We had passengers from a cruise ship who were confirmed positive just recently in Fremantle. Watching the medical staff unload them, in full bio-weapon hazmat suits, should I hope, be getting the message to sink in.

Best regards, and hoping your community fares better than most,

Chris.....

 

[JimS123]

My Grandma never wanted to talk about it much, but in her 90's in the Nursing home she opened up a little.

When the SS came to our farm town they took all the men over 14 and younger than 60. Some they never saw again. The women had to bring in the crops. The Allied bombings took many of their homes. They survived on beans and potatoes. Forget toilet paper, they didn't have it in the first place.

Penniless and with only the clothes on their backs they came to the USA for a better life. The Great Depression and WWII were nothing, because Grandpa at least had a job.

Yes, for sure these are hard times. But in comparison we are living the dream. Count your blessings and have faith. We will forge ahead and it will get better.

 

[GA_Boater]

I started doing a spreadsheet to fact check the rate of infection. The doctors said 1 could infect 1-3 others per day. So day 2 is 2-6, day 4 is 4-18, day 4 is 8-72. Meanwhile the 1st case is doing 1-3 and it multiplies again. When I got to day 10, I got disgusted and deleted the whole thing cuz it got downright scary.

Granted this is worst case and not every person will be infected, but it showed how 1 person was traced to 50 in New York.

 

[MTboatguy]

Well, life has pretty much been normal for us, as I have said, my wife and I are pretty much home bodies and always have been, no close neighbors and we keep the food stocks always in the pantry, fridge and freezer. One this has created to make a little tension here at home and it is not because we are together all the time, I do my thing, she does hers.

That said, last Thursday we received news that her mother had passed away and it is sad, that we can't get back to help the remaining family members through what is always a very difficult time. So at some time in the future, we get the privilege of going through the grief again, because it won't be real until we hit town and we stand at her grave that we could not put to bed when it happened. So it is really not tension as much as it is frustration.

But we as well as most of us in the world will survive and we will be stronger because of it, and maybe it will be a good reset for those who have never really lived through vulnerable times like this. I spent a lot of time over seas during my time in the service and have been to many disaster zones from both war as well as viruses and illness and it is a horror, I would never wish upon anyone, but if you have to go through that fear and just plain helplessness, it hopefully be a learning experience for many.

We must take those experiences in our lives and grow from them, we have to adapt to them and we must live through them.

Stay safe everybody.