Dear Liberal American,

alden135

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Dear Liberal American,<br /><br />I felt compelled to write to you today in hopes of developing a more unified country. First off, let me say that I don't hate you. I don't think you are a stupid person nor do I discount your opinions. The fact that we may disagree on many issues should not tear us apart as a nation. <br />Whilst we debate about various social,economic, and defense issues it is of the utmost importance that we maintain a friendly relationship in the process.There has always been a rift between us but we cannot sustain the current level of bitterness. Should we continue on the present course I can only believe that we will destroy ourselves, from the inside out. <br />No matter how divisive we become in the great debate we should remember we have more in common than we are sometimes concious of. We value our friends, hold dear our loved ones, care deeply about our nation, and love boating!<br />Our forefathers set things up for us so that we may or may not get "our" way. We have elections in which a government, represenative of the people, can be maintained. You win some, you lose some. <br />The health of our great nation can only be maintained if all remember we are Americans first, D's and R's (or I's etc.) second. Our viewpoints will always be better recieved with a mature and clear exchange of ideas, not a "well my guy did this because your guy did that" debate. Forces exist on this planet that strive to see our destruction. I propose we don't help them.<br /><br />In Hopes of Unity,<br /><br />A Conservative American
 

PW2

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Re: Dear Liberal American,

What does this mean exactly?<br /><br />You want us to roll over and play dead?<br /><br />I would suggest you contact some of the more outspoken voices of conservatism, like Rush Limbaugh, for example, but any of them will do--apparently ridicule is good for right wing radio ratings... and get them to treat an opposing point of view with a little respect, and a little bit more honesty in relating the actual positions of the political opposition.<br /><br />I speak only for myself, of course, but I am perfectly willing and capable of having an honest debate on the issues at hand. And I have no trouble being civil about it.<br /><br />However, I am not about to be steamrolled by any idealogy, especially one that tends to misrepresent and ridicule the opposition.<br /><br />If, however, your side doesn't bend a little, you should not expect much bending in return.
 

LubeDude

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Re: Dear Liberal American,

Originally posted by PW2:<br /> You want us to roll over and play dead?<br /><br />
:D This would be good. :p Just a bunch of whining Babies. Get the h*ll out of the way and let us lead! Or tell us how you would do it instead of just compalaining. <br /><br />Bend to what? Its real plain, there is a right and a wrong, Socialism is wrong for this country. Thats all the left is anymore.<br /><br />The republicans of today are not right wing enough foor me. Im a Michael Savage kinda guy myself. Kill the Bastads, this is a war, Profiling my AZZ!!!!<br /><br />Yep, thats the way I feel. :eek:
 

SoulWinner

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Re: Dear Liberal American,

Libs have been slowly destroying America since FDR loaded his cabinet with KGB agents like Alger Hiss. The New Deal was the first flush of the constitution down the toilet. Screw libs. They have been trying to turn America into a socialist republic for 60 years. Instead of trying to understand them, they should all just load up and go to Cuba or North Korea. And yes, I do think libs are just about the stupedist people on the planet. Right up there with the NAACP and the ACLU.
 

ehenry

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Re: Dear Liberal American,

After 9/11...The time immediately following that tradgedy there were no Republicans, Democrats, Independants, Liberals or Conservatives. We all stood as one people. AMERICAN!! We weren't Anglo-American, African-American, Japanese-American, Mexican-American, American-Indian or what ever folks want to call themselves....we were ALL American and wanting to right the horrible wrong that had been done to our country and to our fellow Americans that perished in the attack.<br /><br />As time has gone on since those attacks, this country and her people have gone back the way they were. We are separating from one another. Pointing fingers at one another and trying to place blame.<br /><br />Remember, we're Americans, ALL fellow countrymen. Lets act as such and we'll all come through this. And, to those that wish to cast stones, hurl explitives, and other bad opinions at the leadership of this country...be it republican, democrat or Liberal...My suggestion to you is.....Step on up to the plate big hitter and lets see what you can do. Lets see how you'll hold up when fellow Americans start running you down for the decisions and policies you make.<br /><br />Thats all I got to say.
 

LubeDude

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Re: Dear Liberal American,

Soulwinner:<br /><br />Welcome to the:<br /><br /> :cool: RIGHT WING "WACKO" CLUB!!! :cool:
 

PW2

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Re: Dear Liberal American,

Get the h*ll out of the way and let us lead???<br /><br />Who exactly is in your way? You control both houses of Congress and the White House. So lead already!<br /><br />I no longer even know what being a conservative means.<br /><br />Smaller, less intrusive government? Surely you jest. The government is growing at a faster pace than it ever has before. And it seems that the more important issues that face us seem to revolve around what happens in our bedrooms<br /><br />Fiscal responsibility? You're kidding, right? Under Clinton we had a surplus and now we continue to post record deficits.<br /><br />Truth in government? What is that? Bush promised us he would not be involved in "Nation Building" and now we find out that was the sole reason for the war in Iraq. At least what they currently say the reason is...<br /><br />Since us voters don't have access to classified intelligence reports, understandably, we rely on government to interpret it accurately and protect our interests. Now we find out that the intelligence was either "cooked" or we were outright lied to...<br /><br />And now we are being asked to not criticize the current government-- this from the very same people that for 8 years did nothing but non-stop bashing of our president---give me a break...<br /><br />At least the country got to enjoy the fruits of Clinton's leadership--the balanced budget, full employment, relative peace and prosperity, while he was being relentlessly bashed--and Clinton's popularity ratings continue to reflect his positive leadership.<br /><br />And now we are being scolded that somehow it is our patriotic duty to suffer in silence---<br /><br />You've ***Got*** to be kidding!!!
 

LubeDude

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Re: Dear Liberal American,

Would someone tell me why I shouldnt think that where we are today is "NOT" Clintons fault. Clinton inherited the economy, then he proceded to trash it and run it into the ground. This country was in steady spiral at the end of the Clinton administration. Thats the way it is, the Dems ruin the Economy then it takes a republican to straighten it out.<br /><br />Bush isnt my poster child, but hes at least done some things right.
 

mrbscott19

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Re: Dear Liberal American,

Tell me how it is Clintons fault, and we'll go from there. Site facts, not what you think to be true. Real, cold, hard, FACTS.
 

BassCat73

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Re: Dear Liberal American,

The original post had good intentions, but it's point backfired and became obscured by smoke. I really like what it says about us being Americans, first and foremost. And that all sides should join together. The effectiveness of the message would've been much better had it not stated what "side" you come from. The "Dear Liberal American" and "A Conservative American" automatically creates a division. Look what followed in the rest of the posts... members separating themselves into two groups, joining sides, getting a little angry, being accusative, being humorous at the expense of one view or the other. It's too bad, because the message is good. However, when you basically point out that, "I'm from here" and "you're from over there" you have already separated yourself and created more of that division, which you are speaking against. Why not be ambiguous about your political point of view?? In this message, the political view does not matter... <br /><br />It's kinda funny, because everyone, except for twidget & efhenry(good post, by the way) are basically going against the idea stated in the original post, at least the idea (unity) that I think was trying to be conveyed.<br /><br />Here's to being one country, one nation, under God, indivisible... (and in a country, with a lot of really great lakes!!!!)
 

rosco_59

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Re: Dear Liberal American,

I have stated before that I love my country and have gone to war for her, But my government scares the hell out of me. Everyone preaches to do the right thing but it will never happen. You have too many people doing their own thing and what is good for them and theirs $$$ and not the country as a whole.
 

alden135

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Re: Dear Liberal American,

Originally posted by BassCat73:<br /> The effectiveness of the message would've been much better had it not stated what "side" you come from.
The message of the post was only to accept the reality that there are "sides". This fact needs to be accepted and understood before any real progress can be made to close the division. To ignore the fact that some are over here, and others over there, will only sugarcoat the situation. I have no shame in my views as I am glad others don't either. No matter what the letter said there are those who would bash and/or twist it to their liking. We don't have to agree on everything, but we do owe it to our kids to leave them a better America. The olive branch is held out, I hope it is accepted. The ever widening rift in America will only be closed by regular folks, not the polititians.
 

fixin

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Re: Dear Liberal American,

Growing up:<br />George W. is out jogging one morning,notices a little boy on the corner with a box.<br />Curious,he runs over to the child and says,"What's in the box kid?"<br />The little boy says"Kittens,they're brand new kittens."<br />George W. laughs and says,"What kind of kittens are they?"<br />"Republicans,"the child says.<br />"Oh that's cute,"George W.says and runs off.<br />A couple of days later George is running with his buddy **** Cheney and he spies the same boy with his box just ahead.<br />George W.says to ****,"You gotta check this out"<br />and they both jog over to the boy with the box.<br />George W. says ,"Look in the box ****,isn't that cute?Look at those kittens.Hey kid tell my friend **** what kind of kittens they are."<br />The boy replies,"They're Democrats."<br />"WHOA!"George W. says,"I came by here the other day and you said they were Republicans.What's up?"<br />"Well,"the kid says,"Their eyes are open now."
 

fixin

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Re: Dear Liberal American,

Alden,<br />For the record, I do agree with you.
 

Elmer Fudge

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Re: Dear Liberal American,

The words "Liberal" and "conservative" are a distorted view of their true meaning.
 

Elmer Fudge

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Re: Dear Liberal American,

Politicians write the laws therefore they are lawyers, whether or not they belong to the bar association, you elect them "Dems and Reps to screw you so don't complain.
 

rolmops

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Re: Dear Liberal American,

I would love to be able to have MUTUAL respect.However the Boomyals,Lubedudes and Soulwinners of the conservative side are so convinced that they are right in their opinions that any kind of discussion or debate almost instantly turns into a shouting party by the above mentioned.<br />Socialism is one of their favorite accusations of the democratic party.It is beyond me where their fantasy socialism( I suspect they have it mixed up with communism)and the democratic ideas have anything in common.<br />Ah, it must be the money that social services wastes in the inner cities.Never mind the billions in farm subsidies that keep rural america rolling.<br />That of course is good,because these are good republicans that are on the dole.<br />To put it in biblical terms: Before you ask me to remove the splinter from my eye,do remove the beam from your own eyes and those of your conservative friends.<br />When you have made that effort,you will find me more than willing to be civil and full of good will to look for the things that unite us.
 
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