Curious to hear comments regarding an armed robbery by a 19 yr old kid.

ezbtr

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Curious what folks think of this real story I was told just recently - "someones" son 19, was hanging with some friends, one had a gun, and also gave one to him, under the influence of pot and alcohol, they decided to rob someone of their $40 cell phone and pistol whipped the victim over the head, victim was not killed. Son is now in jail for 10 years, mother claims our "system" is racist as they are Hispanic. She also mentioned she would never "leave" her son behind, has spent thousands on his defense, is not asking for people to "judge" her son "and at least her son "didn't kill" the victim......................................I'm just curious to hear comments.....

P.S. I'll post what I commented to this individual later, this is certainly not a re post, poll or anything else, just what was told to myself.
 
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Tyme2fish

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Re: Curious to hear comments regarding an armed robbery by a 19 yr old kid.

I would comment but I'd get banned. "Son" is lucky the victim wasn't carrying and the son is still alive.
 

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No Comment as it would be what he deserved
 

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Re: Curious to hear comments regarding an armed robbery by a 19 yr old kid.

Armed robbery is still armed robbery. Don't do the crime...you know the rest. 10 years may be a little harsh, but race has NOTHING to do with it IMO.
 

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Re: Curious to hear comments regarding an armed robbery by a 19 yr old kid.

The ol' "it could've been worse, so it wasn't really that bad" argument. Theives and rapists love that argument too when they blame the victim for having nice things, when they say things like "Did you see what she was wearing your honor? She was practically asking for it." Good grief!
In fairness, almost all mothers have a hard time believing their "baby" could ever hurt anyone. Jeffrey Dahmer's mom thought he was a nice boy up to the bitter end too. Denial is a very powerful emotion. On the other end of the spectrum, they could've had a case of "affluenza" then they could've killed 4 people outright and not even spend a day in jail. Proof positive that it's nice to have connections ;) Both instances are examples of non-sensical sentences. A crime is a crime is a crime. It's just as wrong to commit one against someone of your own race, religion, ethnicity, etc... as any one else. That's what the equal protection clause is meant to ensure, in theory.
 

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Re: Curious to hear comments regarding an armed robbery by a 19 yr old kid.

I am gonna call troll on this one. On Facebook and on here. It doesn't seem like it is personal to you, so my question is, are you trying to get people fired up, or are you really that obsessed with this story?
 

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Re: Curious to hear comments regarding an armed robbery by a 19 yr old kid.

I am not in law enforcement but sounds like armed robbery with aggravated assault. This is a serious crime. I say it is a just penalty. If you look at the world through the lens of racism, everything will look racist.
 

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Re: Curious to hear comments regarding an armed robbery by a 19 yr old kid.

19 year old - not a kid.
 

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If you can't do the time don't do the crime don't do it.
If I only had a brain.
 
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I am in Law Enforcement.

10 years isn't enough, White, Brown, Black whatever I do not care, break the Law they are all criminals to me.

In Law Enforcement there are only two colors, Blue and everyone else...
 

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Re: Curious to hear comments regarding an armed robbery by a 19 yr old kid.

I don't think there is enough information given to even make any comment while the judge and jury did have the evidence and testimony!
 

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Re: Curious to hear comments regarding an armed robbery by a 19 yr old kid.

I am in Law Enforcement.

10 years isn't enough, White, Brown, Black whatever I do not care, break the Law they are all criminals to me.

In Law Enforcement there are only two colors, Blue and everyone else...


Having been a former LEO I have to agree with the above. Race is the defense you use when you don't have any other viable defense.
 

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Re: Curious to hear comments regarding an armed robbery by a 19 yr old kid.

I bet different states also have different sentencing laws (i.e. mandatory minimums, etc....), and if your daddy plays golf with the judge, well that doesn't hurt either. South Park did a great episode on so called "hate crime" laws in which they point out their utter hypocrisy and deeply flawed "logic". They're perfect examples of laws with good intentions, but bad consequences for all involved. They immediately make the crime about something other than the original offense.

Hating Hate Crime Laws - YouTube
 

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Re: Curious to hear comments regarding an armed robbery by a 19 yr old kid.

I am gonna call troll on this one. On Facebook and on here. It doesn't seem like it is personal to you, so my question is, are you trying to get people fired up, or are you really that obsessed with this story?
Just to double up on Art's comments above. This thread is gone if it goes anywhere but nice :)
 

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Re: Curious to hear comments regarding an armed robbery by a 19 yr old kid.

.....if you wanna dance, be prepared to pay the fiddler.
 

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Re: Curious to hear comments regarding an armed robbery by a 19 yr old kid.

My questions/replies were - what reparations have been made to the victim?, if the police had caught them in the act, they could very well have been shot dead and rightfully so and to pull the "race card" - ethnicity has no bearing on anything whatsoever, is a complete knee jerk reaction - and NOT a pertinent comment/thought......just something/anything other to blame it on...

P.S. Don't know if there were prior offenses
 

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Re: Curious to hear comments regarding an armed robbery by a 19 yr old kid.

10 years, first offense == about 18 months of actual time. Not nearly as much as he deserves.
 

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Re: Curious to hear comments regarding an armed robbery by a 19 yr old kid.

Curious what folks think of this real story I was told just recently - "someones" son 19, was hanging with some friends, one had a gun, and also gave one to him, under the influence of pot and alcohol, they decided to rob someone of their $40 cell phone and pistol whipped the victim over the head, victim was not killed. Son is now in jail for 10 years, mother claims our "system" is racist as they are Hispanic. She also mentioned she would never "leave" her son behind, has spent thousands on his defense, is not asking for people to "judge" her son "and at least her son "didn't kill" the victim......................................I'm just curious to hear comments.....

P.S. I'll post what I commented to this individual later, this is certainly not a re post, poll or anything else, just what was told to myself.

Just in case you haven't looked at the news lately, this kind of crap happens every day and the prison system is full with this kind of scum.

A violent crime with a firearm, 10 yrs. and a day should be the sentence.
 

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Re: Curious to hear comments regarding an armed robbery by a 19 yr old kid.

Working at a Sheriff's Department this garbage is seen daily. As the comments above reflect......this should not be a troll (hey ezbtr post some stuff about your boat instead).

There have been excellent comments above. 19 years old is an adult.

SO let me place this into a different prospective. Just for the sake of thinking....... an armed adult (no age, no race, no sex) commits a violent crime with a weapon (handgun, knife, chainsaw, or maybe an antique battle ax) against another adult (again -no age, no race, no sex)....... AND there is a conviction for 10 years in prison. Kudo's to the States Attorney for the follow through on the "WORK" that the law enforcement people did - good job. (The "public" has no real concept on how many people are arrested, and cases started that never make it convictions. It is one of the primary concerns of law enforcement. That is why there are so many "frequent flyers" to the judicial systems.

Now consider that situation that the "adult victim" was a close family member (Mom, Dad, Aunt, Uncle, Significant Other).....trust me.....there is no victim that will say 10 years is enough in the context of a violent crime with a weapon. The results would not have been any different is they were robbed of a $40 phone or a $3500 watch......... how about if they just robbed someone who was broke and got nothing at all.......that's not grounds to stop the process.

I am pretty confident to say that "blind justice" is just that. Take race out of the equation. Race is a trolling bait.
 

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Re: Curious to hear comments regarding an armed robbery by a 19 yr old kid.

These people need to understand that being an American citizen is more than all the freedoms we're aloud it's being accountable for our actions right or wrong and the race card has nothing to do with it! The more they play it the worse they make it. The law is the law.
 
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