Could This Be The End Of Bush?

mikeandronda

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So the whole free world thought that Iraq had WMD but it Bush's fault that his intel. (the same as everyone elses) turned out to be false......That is such Typical Left wing Crap. Great agruement there ......Your the one who must be kidding........All your heros on the left had none of their own info to go on? They just voted for war cuz Bush said so......Bull FREAKIN Carp thats what that is. They are as guilty as Bush.....Which by the way there was plenty of reason to go to war with Iraq besides WMD..... But dont let the facts cloud your opinion....Typical.
 

waterinthefuel

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Unfortunately Pointer, the repubs are as guilty for much of what you have stated. I think that sending thousands of young men /women to their deaths over lies is treasonous. I think that allowing the perpetrator of 9/11 to go free with little regard from out Prez is treasonous. Asking for religion to be left out of graduation ceremonies is far from being treason. Actually, it's a right, is it not?

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MaR, you are dead on.

Boy you libs are backazzwards. Going to war is bad, but taking Jesus out of a graduation ceremony is good?

Over lies huh? Well lets see who lied. It appears you may want to impeach some of your own...but oh no, when they say its ok, typical liberal BS. Liberalism a mental disorder? No, more like a disease.

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 | Source

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 | Source

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 | Source

"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 | Source

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 | Source

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 | Source

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 | Source

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 | Source

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 | Source

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source
 

POINTER94

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Posting facts doesn't hold sway with liberals.

As for my earlier post, I intended to include everyone who is culpable. Far Far to many RINO's out there. Only a liberal could believe that President Bush is some kind of far right wing nutjob. He is way to far to the left for my tastes. See the boarder, see taxes, see spending, see trade policy, see where he puts his efforts regarding homeland security, see war stategy....
 

Bigprairie1

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So the whole free world thought that Iraq had WMD but it Bush's fault that his intel. (the same as everyone elses) turned out to be false......That is such Typical Left wing Crap. Great agruement there ......Your the one who must be kidding........All your heros on the left had none of their own info to go on? They just voted for war cuz Bush said so......Bull FREAKIN Carp thats what that is. They are as guilty as Bush.....Which by the way there was plenty of reason to go to war with Iraq besides WMD..... But dont let the facts cloud your opinion....Typical.
Sorry M&R...the rest of the free world was getting different news reports than you about WMD's and Iraq. Britain hung in there because Blair because he was hoping that the U.S would put heat on Israel to clean up some of the Palestinian problem....which they quietly backed away from. Not surprisingly Britain/U.K is now on exit mode from the Iraq debacle.
As well a lot of people outside the U.S were wondering why the U.S wasn't bringing the Saudi's to bear on the Terrorist issue...given the fact that 15 of the 9/11 Hijackers were Saudi's...even OBL. (Note: you do know that the Bush family did good business with OBL's family...right? Although you won't get that info from a Fox newscast). Iraq is/was undoubtedly a problem spot....but hardly what they were being hyped to be...at least no more than several other middle east countries.
Regardless, people will believe want they want to believe.
 

mikeandronda

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Well we have had proof on this board that the left agreed with Bush prewar..........Show me quotes or proof that the left was not as much to blame for going to war as much as the Right and maybe the Bush lied people died statemnet will be something worth listening too.....Otherwise Im real impressed with you lefties and your hindsight is 20/20 veiws on the issue. Armchair QBs is what i see.........In truth a year or so back I was beginning to worry about the upcoming elections but considering what the left lead Congress has done so far and the arguements you guys seem to throw forward Im beginning to feel pretty comfortable.........Yes I guess your right the rest of the free world didnt agree with the war cuz we were gonna take away their cash cow......France and Germany were cashing in on the whole deal if memory serves me right. We sure screwed that up for them............Oh but in truth if Saddam had concentration camps like the Nazis Im sure neither of those countries would have helped anyways........So once again lets see some proof from the left that there heavy wieght Dems didnt vote to go to war with the same intentions thats Bush did.
 

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BTW, W has acknowledged the intelligence reports to be faulty and less than accurate.
It is not lying to have used that information when you thought it was credible . . . Please get a Dictionary bud, they probably have one at your place of employment. I tried so hard to resist this thread, but you are a reasonably intelligent guy and it would make these things easier if you would behave as one when we are on this particular topic . . . Thanks :p :p :)
 

POINTER94

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I don't know what the arguement is about. Saddam did everything he could to give the impression that he had weapons of mass distruction. Then, some bright liberal decided we needed UN approval to do anything. For months there was opportunity to move weapons to really nice people like the syrians. We needed a foreign bodies approval to set our policies. So now that we gave months and months of notice, and the dems had months and months of opportunity to scruitinize the information, even though their previous inhabitant of the White House had reached the same conclusion, we invade and win. Now with victory in hand, but an election around the corner, we find the need to surrender.

Lets take a look at surrender.

How many millions of people will be slaughtered in the process. Now that shouldn't concern us, they are not americans. But in the same breathe, we have to live up to greater standards than the rest of the world when it comes to the fantasy that is global warming. Why? Cuz it could kill millions and millions of people. Kool-aid anyone?

I also love the slam on Fox News. They actually did an expose' on the relationship between OBL and the Bush family. The problem is they didn't reach the preordained conclusion the left wanted for political victory. Sucks when the truth gets in the way of ambitions. OBL was disowned by his own family publically. But I guess we will have to do the same if Hillary wins.

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Sep03/0,4670,BinLadenFamilyFortune,00.html
 

waterinthefuel

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Nice find Plainsman! Yet another example of Kool-aid drinkers not even knowing what they are talking about! How do they know what FNC talks about? They're too busy sucking on the MSM straw to know anything else! "Thats not something you'll hear about on FNC." Well, there it is. How do you feel? Stupid? You should.

LOL good catch! Yea, CJY, he admitted they were less than accurate, what, 4 years after the war had ended! He didn't know this, as neither did the dem wit dems who supported the war, at the time the war began.

But as one person told me, tell a drug dealer that you will raid his house in 3 weeks and see how much illegal activity you can uncover. You are a true dim wit dem if you expected us to uncover huge stockpiles of weapons weeks after Saddam was notified we were coming.


DUH
 

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MaR, you are dead on.

Boy you libs are backazzwards. Going to war is bad, but taking Jesus out of a graduation ceremony is good?

Over lies huh? Well lets see who lied. It appears you may want to impeach some of your own...but oh no, when they say its ok, typical liberal BS. Liberalism a mental disorder? No, more like a disease.

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 | Source

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 | Source

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 | Source

"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 | Source

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 | Source

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 | Source

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 | Source

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 | Source

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 | Source

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

Once again these quotes prove that members of the American National Socialist Party aka Democrats, have an agenda that is seldom obvious by the goofy positions they take on various issues. When otherwise intelligent(and of course progressive people) will not look and consider statements from their own kind, they simply are using the subject for other purposes.

It is apparent that the American left will not connect the dots so Conservatives must do it for them. Right in their face.
 

waterinthefuel

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Goofy? Where do you get that? "I voted for the war before I voted against it." LOL
 

CJY

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It is not lying to have used that information when you thought it was credible . . . Please get a Dictionary bud, they probably have one at your place of employment. I tried so hard to resist this thread, but you are a reasonably intelligent guy and it would make these things easier if you would behave as one when we are on this particular topic . . . Thanks :p :p :)


And I would ask the same of you QC. I believe CP advised against coming forth with the WMD crap because he did not believe there was enough evidence as W was reporting. It did not take him long to jump a sinking ship.

Simply put, we are on opposite sides of the fence when it comes to W. We have been aware of this for quite some time now.
 

mikeandronda

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not liking Bush and thinking he should be impeached for the same thing so many on both sides did are 2 different things CJY
 

CJY

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Nice find Plainsman! Yet another example of Kool-aid drinkers not even knowing what they are talking about! How do they know what FNC talks about? They're too busy sucking on the MSM straw to know anything else! "Thats not something you'll hear about on FNC." Well, there it is. How do you feel? Stupid? You should.

LOL good catch! Yea, CJY, he admitted they were less than accurate, what, 4 years after the war had ended! He didn't know this, as neither did the dem wit dems who supported the war, at the time the war began.

But as one person told me, tell a drug dealer that you will raid his house in 3 weeks and see how much illegal activity you can uncover. You are a true dim wit dem if you expected us to uncover huge stockpiles of weapons weeks after Saddam was notified we were coming.


DUH



4 years after the war had ended? You mean it's over? It's over? It's over? Talk about being a dim wit.

I guess W should not have waited so long then, right? I did not make him wait. Why did he wait? He77, he had intelligence that so many of you believe he had faith in, yet he waited. And for what I ask. Maybe he needed a scapegoat for the lack of found WMD? Just a thought, but yah, I know, he's above that. I did not make him wait for six months before going after OBL either. He still runs free too. Appears to be a pattern of idiocy.
 

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waterinthefuel

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4 years after the war had ended? You mean it's over? It's over? It's over? Talk about being a dim wit.

I guess W should not have waited so long then, right? I did not make him wait. Why did he wait? He77, he had intelligence that so many of you believe he had faith in, yet he waited. And for what I ask. Maybe he needed a scapegoat for the lack of found WMD? Just a thought, but yah, I know, he's above that. I did not make him wait for six months before going after OBL either. He still runs free too. Appears to be a pattern of idiocy.


Yep, didn't you see him on the boat announce the end of the war? The ground war was over, we won in 3 weeks. Saddam was ousted. That was winning the war, now we are trying to win the peace.

You just steadfastly refuse to admit, despite the dozen or so quotes I put up, that YOUR PARTY said the same thing, i.e. that Saddam needed to go. There was no mention of Bin Laden in any of the quotes, even the one's post 9-11. Quit trying to bring up Bin Laden, we are talking about Saddam.

Did you forget that Saddam had been shooting at our planes since the end of Gulf War 1? Did you know that that alone gives us the right to go in and take him out? Had Bush cited that alone as the reason for ousting him I would have supported the effort just as much.
 

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just like the repubs spent all those years foaming at the mouth about Clinton, and trying to impeach him for lying about sex and shady real estate dealings.

talk about filled with hate!

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

opposing the president is treason?



by the "cornservative" definition, then all that hate about Bill and Hillary was treason as well, no? He was, after all, POTUS.

Or is it only treason to disagree with YOUR party's prez?

no rhetoric, no BS, no lib-lab flab gab, just a simple question. Anyone care to answer it?

(BTW, you've NEVER heard me utter the phrase "W lied, thousands died". I think it simplistic and lame and reminds me too much of lame protest marches. Likewise, you've NEVER heard me express any love for Kerry, Hillary, the Democratic party, or TV news, FOX or otherwise. And I NEVER said that stupid girl who chose to evangelize during her grad speech was a criminal or a traitor, just a whining activist, spoiling for a fight which she lost.)
 

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I think you could impeach President Bush on his failure to execute the responsiblities of his office with regards to the boarder. I would vote for that. I also would believe it almost, if not does, reaches the level of treason...
 

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And what about Bill Clinton, does anyone remember all the good things he did while in office ? LOL, Poor George Washington is turning over in his grave. I say, Donald Duck for Prez. and Goofie for Vice Prez. Hey, we could all say what we want, but, we are going to get the shaft either way. KEEP SMILING
 

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Comin' back here from RR island and readin' this is like comin' back from the reality in the high country to the fog in the lowlands. Good job: Cornservatives. Only one simple lil' question remains: IS LIBERALISM A MENTAL DISORDER? :D;):):eek: JR
 
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