Can someone explain why Mike Moore is still alive?

mrbscott19

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no, 12footer. Most of those things you call torture are in fact called murder. And they were all physical. The pictures we have seen are mostly psychological torture tactics. You seem to have a problem differentiating between physical and psychological.<br /><br />Do you really think the rest of the world thinks like us? Do you think they hold the same things dear that we do? Your ignorance really shines on this one. Many Iraqis are burned alive by deranged bombers, they're called suicide bombers and they do it to themselves. It's an honor for them.<br /><br />Do you consider sodomizing little kids with broomsticks torture? That happened. What about being burned repeatedly by sodium lights? That happened. What about being beat to death? That happened. It's funny the whole world calls it torture, including the Red Cross and the current Admin, but you know better than all of them, don't ya? Not to mention, the Bush admin won't even release the really bad stuff. I wonder whats on those tapes and in those pictures they don't want us to see. Must be pretty bad since they have no problem showing us what we've already seen.
 

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tor·ture ( P ) Pronunciation Key (tôrchr)<br />n. <br /><br />Infliction of severe physical pain as a means of punishment or coercion. <br />An instrument or a method for inflicting such pain. <br />Excruciating physical or mental pain; agony: the torture of waiting in suspense . <br />Something causing severe pain or anguish.
 

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BS as usual. Here is the genuine definition as per Webster's Collegiate Dictionary;<br /><br />"Main Entry: torture<br />Function:transitive verb <br />Inflected Form:tortured ; torturing \*t*rch-ri*, *t*r-ch*-\ <br />Date:1588<br /><br />1 : to cause intense suffering to : TORMENT<br />2 : to punish or coerce by inflicting excruciating pain<br />3 : to twist or wrench out of shape : DISTORT, WARP<br />synonyms see AFFLICT<br /> –torturer \*t*r-ch*r-*r\ noun"<br /><br />Scott, one more time....you need to learn the difference. <br />Torture is pushing a bound prisoner off the roof of a building, head-first to his death. <br />Torture is savagely raping a woman while her husband, brother, or father WATCH!!! <br />TORTURE IS HOOKING ELECTRODES UP TO THE PRISONER'S GENITALS AND APPLYING THE POWER!!! <br />TORTURE IS EXECUTING THE FAMILIES OF PRISONERS WHO ARE FORCED TO PULL THE TRIGGER!! <br />TORTURE IS BEING BEHEADED WITH A DULL SAW BLADE BY MASKED COWARDS, AND THE VIDEO RELEASED TO YOUR WILLING ACCOMPLACES IN THE MEDIA FOR THE WORLD TO SEE!!<br />TORTURE IS BEING BURNED ALIVE BY A DERANGED BOMBER!<br />Get it straight!<br /><br />We are an honorable people,Scott. My country doesn't operate using these tactics, and even the deepest bowels of the American Intelegence society has it's hands tied by our civility.We don't even perform assinations any more.Most countries still do.<br />As for Abu Grieb,; Today,the entire media is opening with the story of Lindy England's trial And you are fully aware of this allready. And yet, you support the evil Islamic fruitcakes and rogue "Sadamites" over you own government. There is someting twisted here. I am at a loss to understand what motivates you and those like you, other than your hatered for Bush. But there simply must be more to it than what you emit! How could one God-fearing, inteligent, well-meaning president have you prefering a mad man and his regime over freedom? How can you hate so much as to be blind to the hard-fought liberty of an entire soveriegn nation, while wanting to denmounce your own country and it's military's every move?<br />Bush is good. Sadam is bad.
 

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BTW, Scott. Do you read anything?
 

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Where did you read that I support the insurgency? Just because I don't agree with torture? Spin city, here we come! I am for prisoners being treated like human beings, regardless of who they are or where they came from. You know damn well if our troops were being subjected to the same thing, you'd be screaming torture. Typical ignorant arguement really....because I'm against the war, I must hate America. I see you're more of a divider than a uniter. Sorry, but you have to do better than that next time.<br /><br />Sure I read, probably alot better than you. Pretty slick how you decided to post the dictionary entry that said what you wanted it to say. The secondary entry is what you posted. Maybe your dictionary is just outdated?<br /><br />Here is what I got from the online webster dictionary as the primary definition. And you scream and holler at MM for misleading people. Tsk, tsk. You should know better.<br /><br />Main Entry: 1tor·ture <br />Pronunciation: 'tor-ch&r<br />Function: noun<br />Etymology: French, from Late Latin tortura, from Latin tortus, past participle of torquEre to twist; probably akin to Old High German drAhsil turner, Greek atraktos spindle<br />1 a : anguish of body or mind : AGONY b : something that causes agony or pain<br />2 : the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure<br />3 : distortion or overrefinement of a meaning or an argument <br /><br />Here's the link.<br /><br /> Torture Definition from Websters<br /><br />And you still didn't answer me as to why our own government is calling what we did torture if it isn't. And what about the poor kids being sodomized with broomsticks? It happened man. Now thats going a little too far in the name of humiliation, don't you think? Or is that how you and your buddies humiliate people? I just make fun of them, no broomstick up the *** is needed. If you can't come to terms with the fact that the US was caught torturing prisoners, then thats your problem.
 

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mellow y'all, the fish are biting today ;)
 

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Originally posted by mrbscott19:<br /> Where did you read that I support the insurgency? Just because I don't agree with torture? Spin city, here we come! I am for prisoners being treated like human beings, regardless of who they are or where they came from.
<br />You claimed kids were sodomised with broomsticks and that it happened. Were you talking about Sadamnites, or our troops? I have not heard about this, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about here...<br />You call attention to the attrocities perpetrated by American armed forces, while making excuses for Sadamn's treament of his own people, or by ignoring it. You call attention to a definition out of the dictionary of the word, "Torture"....The primary defintion only. THEN, you have the onions to call me out for finishing your unfinished work! Let me ask, who misled whom,Scott?<br /> <br />
Originally posted by mrbscott19:<br /><br /> You know damn well if our troops were being subjected to the same thing, you'd be screaming torture. Typical ignorant arguement really....
<br />I guess beheading my troops and those who would work for them with dull wood saws is not torture in your opinion? Again, what do you call attention to, while in the same post, attempt to bury? You act just like your presidential canidate, and the media bent upon regaining thier own clout, and ripping-into American resolve at every turn in the process!!<br />This is where I persoanlly get the opinion that you do hate America. You seem to hate my country as nearly as much as it's leadership. It's a typical finding of mine lately, regarding socialists and thier opinions on most issues of the war on Islamic terror, President Bush, his cabinet, and the all-volunteer military who serve my interests overseas. You hold-up a band of poorly-trained mercenaries as an example of how American military behaves overseas, when you know dang-right well, it is the exception rather than the norm, and again, ignoring (or just plain failing to mention) what true attrocities are currently suurounding the uniformed military over there! Now, tell me about the fine art of misleading, Scott!!<br />Tell me why it's more important for you to cover-up the lies in a piece of cinematic propaganda, holding it up as a torch of truth, while equating my heros to monsters!<br />Mike Moore is no better than a group Vietnam-era of swift boat vets making an unsubstantiated commercial calling you hero a traitor,and that "we have proof,we were there", or "I know, I treated his wounds"....Hey, the jury is still out on this latest article, and I'll not stoop to that level unless it is proven fact. Don't get me wrong.I will follow that story every step of the way, but I'll not push or reprint heresay....Just as the "Food-For-Oil" investigations. I know what I know.But I'll wait until the indictments are submitted before I rub your nose in it. But for now, Scot, lay-off my military. Until you can give fanatic Muslims and Sadamnites the same degree of bile, just lay-off my countrymen!<br /><br />
Originally posted by mrbscott19:<br /><br />I see you're more of a divider than a uniter. Sorry, but you have to do better than that next time.<br />
<br />Then you are too blind to see anything . I am a big-time uniter. Unfortunately, you and I are on other sides of this war. I would proudly give my life to unite my country under one indivisable banner and direction, both here and abroad. I ask God to be with those who volunteered to serve on our behalf,and I thank God for them every day. <br />
Originally posted by mrbscott19:<br /><br />Sure I read, probably alot better than you.
<br />Well ,nanny-nanny boo-boo! LOL! JC!<br /><br />
Originally posted by mrbscott19:<br /><br />Pretty slick how you decided to post the dictionary entry that said what you wanted it to say. The secondary entry is what you posted. Maybe your dictionary is just outdated?<br />
<br />Samey-same dictionary as yours, it would appear (the computerised Merriam Webster's V2.5, of which I am looking at now in a side-winder).<br /> Again, I completed what you started. Who is der sclickmiester here? Your defintition is out of the book (half of it, anyhow), and yet, your comprehension is limitted to those scurvy dog US soldiers, while ignoring in total, the pure evil they face daily over there.<br />Not only do I submit that you hate your country, but also those who would defend her, equating them all to baby-killers like your candidate has, and as long as Mike Moore speaks ill of the current administration, you'll promote his propaganda as truth!<br />You seam like a bright person, yet you close your mind to the point of "moveon.org", Scot.<br />
Originally posted by mrbscott19:<br /><br />And you still didn't answer me as to why our own government is calling what we did torture if it isn't. And what about the poor kids being sodomized with broomsticks? It happened man. Now thats going a little too far in the name of humiliation, don't you think? Or is that how you and your buddies humiliate people? I just make fun of them, no broomstick up the *** is needed. If you can't come to terms with the fact that the US was caught torturing prisoners, then thats your problem.
And you call me a "devider"?<br />Of course, those things are torture in any defintion of the word. I have never disputed that, calling attention to Abu Gireb, a word you have not even used. But then, you don't need to to twist the hell outta this topic. Do you?<br />Just keep turning a blind eye to the evil that faces us. I hope you survive it. As for me, I'll continue to support my country with my every fiber, and call you out,as well as anyone else who attempts to drag America thru the mud. "Death to America! Ala is great!", they shout, as they fly the jets into buildings...<br />I say "Death to to the evil ones!! God bless America! God bless our soldiers, and Mike Moore is a terrorist operative! Kill it before it propagates!".
 

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GW and all of us are simply alive because" IT's against the law to kill us". I guess that only pertains to those who believe in that stupidity.
 

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(12Footer said)Again, I completed what you started. Who is der sclickmiester here? Your defintition is out of the book (half of it, anyhow), and yet, your comprehension is limitted to those scurvy dog US soldiers, while ignoring in total, the pure evil they face daily over there.<br /><br />So all Iraqi's are pure evil? You're pathetic. Did you know that up to 90% of the detainees in Iraq were arrested by mistake? So not only were we torturing Iraqi's, we were torturing mostly innocent Iraqi's. But thats right, they're pure evil, I forgot. It's Americans like you who think they're better than everyone else that give the US a bad name. <br /><br />Link to Detainee Story <br /><br />Torture is torture, no matter who's doing it to who. Sounds to me like you're trying to justify it. You purposely left out the primary definition that said what you didn't want it to say. That is deceitful. MM would be proud.<br /><br />And whats with the baby-killers? Who are baby-killers? You're just rambling now. And you can say I hate my country all you want, I don't really care. If all you can do is keep saying I hate America and I'm for Saddam then you might as well go home, because thats not really a very good arguement to anything, it's just proof that you have to resort to personal attacks. Once you have a real arguement, come talk to me. What the US did was torture per it's definition. What more do you want?<br /><br />The admin accepts it, so why can't you?
 

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Originally posted by mrbscott19:<br /><br /> Once you have a real arguement, come talk to me. What the US did was torture per it's definition.<br /><br />[/QB]
That's pure BS. You are the one with no real argument. You may as well be shouting "Bahoogawaga! Bahoogawaga!" Essentially, that's what you are doing, like a well-trained parrot.<br /><br />Anyone who would defend Michael Moore's movie by denying that it is a distortion of reality has no idea what reality is.<br /><br />12footer never said all Iraqis are evil. Perhaps MM would take you on as a partner---you seem very adept at taking things out of context and twisting them to support a conclusion you have already concocted.<br /><br />I thank God I live in a country where the majority of people do not think like you.
 

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Originally posted by mrbscott19:<br /> (12Footer said)"Again, I completed what you started. Who is der sclickmiester here? Your defintition is out of the book (half of it, anyhow), and yet, your comprehension is limitted to those scurvy dog US soldiers, while ignoring in total, the pure evil they face daily over there."<br /><br />So all Iraqi's are pure evil? You're pathetic. Did you know that up to 90% of the detainees in Iraq were arrested by mistake? So not only were we torturing Iraqi's, we were torturing mostly innocent Iraqi's. But thats right, they're pure evil, I forgot. It's Americans like you who think they're better than everyone else that give the US a bad name.
<br /><br />You know full well I was refering to the evil which flies jets into buildings, or blows thier boat up next to a US warship!!!<br />I am talking aboput Islamic terrorists. In spite of what Mikey tells ya, they are pure evil. I want to rid the planet of them.<br />As for your twisted logic. I don't care if you think I'm pathetic. Actually, I think it tells the entire story, that "victory" to you would be, Moore will be your prime minister some day. <br /><br />
Originally posted by mrbscott19:<br /><br />Torture is torture, no matter who's doing it to who. Sounds to me like you're trying to justify it. You purposely left out the primary definition that said what you didn't want it to say. That is deceitful. MM would be proud.
<br />No. You left out the secondary in your original reply. As usual, somebody has to follow you around like Mike Moore and shed light on your attempts to mislead. and I am pathetic? and " I resort to personal attacks"? Chile, please.<br />But by all means, keep it up. I (for one) can take it like a man.<br /><br />
Originally posted by mrbscott19:<br /><br />And whats with the baby-killers? Who are baby-killers? You're just rambling now. And you can say I hate my country all you want, I don't really care. If all you can do is keep saying I hate America and I'm for Saddam then you might as well go home, because thats not really a very good arguement to anything, it's just proof that you have to resort to personal attacks. Once you have a real arguement, come talk to me. What the US did was torture per it's definition. What more do you want?<br /><br />The admin accepts it, so why can't you?
"Baby-Killers"; A term coined by the war protestors ,back when Kerry was denouncing his own country...THAT'S WHAT MR KERRY CALLED US!!<br />I'll never forgive or forget it iether.<br />As for torture, as I said before, it is what it is, and that those guilty of comitting it should be fried, (including US military). But you keep calling-attention to them, and I'll keep calling attention to thier enemy and his houses of torture...And I willl keep calling attention to Moore's attempts too!<br /><br /><br />Good enough.So now we can establish that Mike Moore should indeed, be arrested and charged with aiding and abedding the enemy. The fact that you and your bretheren believe his propaganda, is proof that it had the desired effect on some people. So the damage has been done. I am home, Scott. My home, not Islam's. and i'll keep it that way. But rest easy tonight, knowing that I am armed, and have a concieled weapons permit. I'll take care of your light werk, should they strap something on near my home. I sugjest you remain vigialant where you live (or not).<br />Mike Moore is comming to Florida to oversee elections here, while filming his travels. He won't be left ungaurded, I hope.<br />I now have the definative answer to my original question;"Can someone explain why Mike Moore is still alive?". And that is -- <br />Mike Moore should be arrested, and if found guilty in a military tribunal, "death by firing-squad"!<br />So say your peace now, Scot, so I can lock this thread afterward. It's time for it to die.<br /><br />And DD, thanks. It's nice to know there are other patriots left out there, like you, Kiwi, Pointer et al. And thanks to everyone, (including you, Scott,) for your input.
 

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Try this on for size.. Ok, moore gets arrested, tried, and sentenced.... <br /><br />Moore would then become a marter(sp?) to a great deal of the public.. That would make the administration look even worse that they already do, and face it, dubya and his partners in crime don't need anymore bad press....<br /><br />
All the bad press(spin) you, mikey, and sorts can put out there with a willing press ....and still no bump in the polls.....he,he,,,HE! :D and not a shot fired back yet except UNFIT FOR COMMAND!....<br /><br /><br />Whaa....Whaaaa...not fair...they put out a book dang them rightys.... :D ..too funny
 

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mrbscott19, it's really disgusting how someone who has stolen a copy of a film is on here supporting it. Speaks volumes it does. You seem to be a big one for mental torture. What about the torture M Moore is causing? Think about the U.S. troops over in Iraq and Afghanistan. What do you think they are going through right now? Mental torture. Why? Because of M Moore and his damn lies. I mean what would you think if you were over there fighting for the U.S., and then all of a sudden have the natives where you are flashing this tape in your face. Don't you think this is causing mental torture? What about when the planes hit the towers? No mental torture there? It didn't torment you when those firefighters ran in to saves lives as the buildings came crashing down on them? If that is not mental torture to an entire nation, then why don't people want to talk about it.<br /><br />I find your reasoning very disturbing. I find myself wanting to find terrorist here in the U.S.. So that I can make use of my conceal carry permit. You find it neccessary to make the mental torture of a nation more intense. And you steal the material in which to do it with.
 

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That is the point allright Samagee. I identify with the foot soldier that needs us as much as we need them, the President with his task to lead us through this morass of difficulity, the working stiff trying to make ends meet without a government handout to him/herself or others that should be puling their own weight to make the economic engine of the country run.
 

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Interesting thread. Recognizing the risk of potential member attack, I must submit that I believe that our "mrbscott19" may be a youngster whose political beliefs and values are/were shaped by liberal political science "teachers" from recent educational experiences. I make this observation from this members posts that appear, to me, similar in substance and content to what is in main stream media editorials. <br /><br />That said, given time to accumulate real life experiences this members views may change. <br /><br />Sadly, a certainty is that board debate, such as here, accomplishes little to persuade change in ones opinions or viewpoints.<br /><br />Peace Out......Pat
 
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