Broken low speed needle

[doors67us]

Hey guys ,looking for some advice I've got a six horsepower 1971 Johnson ,somebody has broken the low speed needle off in the orifice wondering if anybody's got any tips on how to remove it, you can see the tip of the needle inside the hole where the Welch plug is and if you look through the other end where the needle goes in the carburetor body you can see the broken off needle I'm stumped on how to get it out of there

 

[flyingscott]

Drill and ez out

 

[racerone]

Fairly common event.----Drill a wee hole in carburetor body so you can use a wee punch to drive it out.----Plug hole with a wee screw.----Done.

 

[doors67us]

Fairly common event.----Drill a wee hole in carburetor body so you can use a wee punch to drive it out.----Plug hole with a wee screw.----Done.

Okay would you explain more in detail about where to drill a hole and everything

 

[doors67us]

Drill and ez out

Drill which end the end where the needle goes into the carb body?

 

[racerone]

Drill so you can use a punch straight onto the broken tip.

 

[Crosbyman]

if the tip extents in the drip chamber under the welch pluch can you not tap it gently backwards...but don't mushroom the point

 

[brodmann]

It's threaded guys. How do you tap it out? I'd take a nail or another screw that's about half the diameter as the adjusting screw and put crazy glue on it and hold it in place for a couple of minutes and see if you can screw it out with the adjusting needle on the end of it.

 

[airshot]

Find a very small dia left hand drill bit, small enough to fit the large dia end of the broken pin. Once you get the left hand drill to bite in, it will unscrew the broken pin. Gonna be a tiny delicate job but doable....remember left drills go backwards..same direction as unscrewing...

 

[racerone]

Sorry----Usually it is just the tip that breaks off.----Find a used carburetor on E-bay for this one.

 

[doors67us]

Sorry----Usually it is just the tip that breaks off.----Find a used carburetor on E-bay for this one.

Yes it's just the tip that's broken off , everything else is intact

 

[racerone]

See post #3-----Newer motors had a steel tip to prevent club fisted folks from breaking them off.

 

[Crosbyman]

Brodmann if just the tip broken seems it should tap out ...

 

[racerone]

A very common event if you have worked on more than 1 of these wonderful 6 HP motors.----Picked one up for cheap last year.----Broken tip on the needle is why it was discarded.

 

[Crosbyman]

A very common event if you have worked on more than 1 of these wonderful 6 HP motors.----Picked one up for cheap last year.----Broken tip on the needle is why it was discarded.

and folks think oil is the usual problem that kills these engines

 

[racerone]

I have about 10 or more of these engines.----At 50:1 they will last nearly forever.----The bronze main bearings rarely show any sign of wear !

 

[doors67us]

I have about 10 or more of these engines.----At 50:1 they will last nearly forever.----The bronze main bearings rarely show any sign of wear !

They sound like their pretty good engines,I picked this one up for 40$ resealed the gear case,new impeller, carburetor kit,new OEM needle,and a used hood, because it was missing,got it to run with the new needle,but wouldn't idle down properly

 

[brodmann]

Sorry, you guys called it correctly. I've never heard of the tip of a mixture adjusting needle breaking off. I assumed it was frozen up and broke off flush or inside the carb. Good call guys, as always.

 

[oldboat1]

Remove the needle, which presumably leaved the tip imbedded in the carb body. A finishing nail works to push the tip into the drip chamber where you can fish it out (head of the nail used to contact the broken tip).

 

[racerone]

It would not push into the drip chamber.