Big wooden boat project [Splashed Sept 2017]

Ned L

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I'll put up some pictures of what things are beginning to look like.

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the galley area just about finished.

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Need to get the cupboard and locker doors back on, but otherwise just about done. (Sorry, that upholstery has to stay for the summer, didn't have time to make new covers. lol )

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And the overhead, ... still need to put the center slat back up. ..... but we have lights!


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And pretty much done here too.
 

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What a great thread. I even learned what a worm shoe is.
When you are from the western prairie, stuff like this is all brand new.
Your attention to detail is incredible. Reminds me of the Case tractor I restored. No part untouched.
 

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Even with the upholstery it's a thing a beauty your creating there Ned.

I am glad to see you say it'll be changed in the future though.
 

Ned L

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Thank you for the complements! As much as I have actually enjoyed all the work, even though there have been parts that have been tedious, parts that have been a pain, and more than enough 'oh crap I hadn't planned on rebuilding that too' things, I am really looking forward to tossing the thing in the water (soon I hope).
As nice as it is turning out, she is really just a typical example of the boats that were built on the Jersey shore in the mid 1900's, really not much unusual about her ,.... Other than she is one of a few that are still here.

About that upholstery, it will be changed, just didn't have time. At least I did wash the slip covers and the foam ( lots of fun washing the foam, .. Out in the back yard with a garden hose, some laundry detergent and lots of stomping up and down like making wine out of grapes. Then Days of squeezing and drying!
 

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Ned said:
just a typical example of the boats that were built on the Jersey shore in the mid 1900's

That's the thing though, even if it was cookie cutter million made, it was million made with a style, craftsmanship, and material that is far from seen in the modern billion made. To see the care you use to preserve that style, technique, and material is just as I said a thing of beauty.
 

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Drive ins, Desotos, and leaded gas were typical back then too but not anymore. You have yourself a beautiful piece of art and history there and you have done an incredible job bringing her back. I agree with TruckDrivingFool, it might have been typical but it was built with pride. It is nice to see you rebuilding her the same way. Kudos to you. Lol
 

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Yep, stuffs been going on. I actually took most of last week off from work to work on the boat. I have the bottom just about wrapped up. -- A lot of work there, scraping to bare wood, a quick sanding, tedious seam compound, and a first coat of bottom point.
Lapstrake boats are not built, or intended to be caulked at all like a carvel planked wood boat. The planks are overlapped and riveted every 2 inches, tight plank to plank with nothing between them (except for Chris Craft lapstrake sea skiffs, which were plywood planked and built with a bead of Thiokol in the lap.) Anyway, .... As a lapstrake boat ages the rivets can tend to loosen up a bit and the wood doesn't swell up and expand quite as much as when it is new, so often times some level of 'caulking' is needed. The trick is "how much?". You really want to use as little as possible, and whatever is used should remain soft so that it can squeeze out of the seam as the wood expands when it gets wet. A bit of a catch 22, ..... especially after 15 years of drying out, the bottom is really dry (light coming through a good number of laps), so it needs some caulking, but how much?? Yes it will leak like 'an old peach basket' when tossed in the water, and after 2-3 days (with luck) it will be pretty tight. However for those couple of days you do need to be able to pump the water out faster than it comes in, so caulking is necessary.
I decided to 'caulk' all the seams I could with a soft underwater seam compound that will squeeze out as needed. That meant going over about 500 feet of seams with a 1" putty knife, kind of tedious to say the least.

Things just sort of seem to go on forever when under there!

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There are also hundreds of rivet heads that need re-puttying.


When the boat was built the keel had some small 'defects' in the wood that had "Dutchmen" installed. A couple were loose, and one had fallen out years ago, so I replaced that. ------- When you have a 25 foot long x 3 inch thick x 17 inch high stick of oak for a keel and it has some small defects (knots, sap pocket, etc) you aren't going to scrap it, you repair the spots by putting in Dutchmen. These are just small cosmetic repairs.

Here is one that actually had some depth and had two layers set in

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Here is the one I replaced (white oak set in roofing tar).

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After the caulking was addressed and the first coat of bottom paint on it was time to begin the process of actually getting her ready for some water. Since last Sunday I have had a garden hose with a spray nozzle just barely spraying a bit of water in her bilge. I have been moving it here and there a couple of times a day. At first the water was going out as fast as it was going in. after the first day or so that began to change, and now I can really see where the "lawn sprinkler" has slowed up. More is staying in than going out!.

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Because I can only wet so much of her bottom from the inside she will still leak like a sieve when she goes in, but I hope this will make it much more manageable.
 

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I have been getting other little things finished up and put back as well. The opening center window in the windshield is back in place and the two helmsman chairs are back in (had to replace the plywood base inside of one of them, pulled lots of staples, carefully removed the vinyl upholstery and padding, make a new base, and put it all back together).

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I also put the horn and 'military mast' back on.

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Things are getting there.
 

Mikeopsycho

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Very, very nice, as usual Ned. How many coats of bottom paint are going to go on, and what kind of bottom paint is it? (Sorry if you already covered this, I am getting old.) The helmsman chairs look great, I like the open space beneath them, makes the area look huge!
 

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Great work! I was wondering if you're going to use in salt or fresh water? Does it make a difference if you pre-swell the hull/bilge with fresh water and place in salt water vs fresh water? I am ignorant in wooden boats, so please forgive me? I've seen oak barrels primed the same way, so I would guess it makes very little difference? Just wondering?

Thanks!
 

Ned L

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The boat will be in salt water, Good question, about swelling her up a bit before launching. No, it makes no difference whether you use fresh water or salt water for the process. You thought about oak barrels is a good correlation, this is the exact same principle. You need to soak wooden barrels in water to get them to swell and tighten up, the same thing goes for wooden boats. Lapstrake boats are a bit trickier than carvel planked (smooth sided) boats, because too much caulking will cause damage more easily on a lapstrake boat than on a carvel boat. (Both types can be over-caulked to the point of causing damage.)
For bottom paint I am using Total-Boat ?Underdog? bottom paint, it is an inexpensive soft ablative type of paint (about 25% cuprous oxide). Because I stripped the bottom to bare wood I am applying two coats of paint for now. Future years would get one coat before launching.
Those helmsman chairs were very typical on boats in the 1940?s ? 60?s. They are nice because they fold down out of the way. Yes, there is a lot of room in the wheelhouse / cockpit area. With the way the styling of boats has changed over the past decades you don?t really have that much ?walking around? room anymore. It?s not too many 33 foot boats where 6 guys can easily walk around without getting in each other?s way. In that regard, this is a great boat for fishing (lots of cockpit room), and was set up for that. There are six Lee rod holders around the gunwales and transom around the cockpit. There is the mounting plate for a fighting chair in the cockpit (unfortunately I don?t have the chair), and she used to have outriggers too.

Here is what things look like with the chairs down.

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Oops, ... sorry it's a bit crooked.

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I'm going with the same type of seats I think on my renovation , I found the hardware now just need to decide on how to make the seats, you have one beautiful boat there and doing a awesome job!
 
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