Big wooden boat project [Splashed Sept 2017]

Ned L

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Thanks guys, glad to see there is interest in this stuff.
..... And sorry about the typos and grammar in the last posts. Apparently the firewall where I posted from was having issues and there was a good delay between a keystroke and it showing up on the screen (if it showed up at all). As is I corrected a bunch of them.

.... Very nice boat,... your skiff craft! It is always nice to hear of others with wooden boats.
 
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bobkat1864

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I haven't noticed any errors, in the typing or the project. Keep up the good work...😎
 

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I have just gotten up to date with your project, great job! ill be following along!
 

Ned L

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Thanks!

Not very exciting, but here are a couple of pictures of the installed worm shoe. It runs along the whole 25 or so feet of the bottom of the keel.

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This weekend I turned back to putting some things back together. I re-installed the helm and sorted out and re-connected all the wiring, tach cables, oil pressure lines & steering. This picture is about half way through the puzzle.

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It's also time to clean up the starboard engine. Not to much to do other than pull the head and make sure it is not warped (have it machined if it isn't dead flat) and give it a good clean up and coat of paint. ---- Its a good thing that the outside appearance doesn't have to be an indicator of what is inside!

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The whole job is easier without the manifold in place.

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Ned L

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OK, ... So things look like a bit of a mess, but it is really better than it looks. lol ........... (The old head gasket is still on the block in this picture.) The head is out being machined to correct any possible warping over 57 years. The exhaust manifold is like new ( think they were both replaced shortly before the boat was left 16 years ago. the inside of the water jacket of the block looks good. I am picking the head up this afternoon and it should be looking like a different engine within a week

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Ned L

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This weekend I made good headway on removing 59 years of bottom paint and starting to get the bottom ready for some water. I got almost all the port side stripped, sanded and painted (1st coat).

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Here is a curiosity question, ..... let's see how many here may be 'old enough' to identify what this is, and was used for.

A 20 foot long length of copper pipe that was nailed to one side of the keel. (holes drilled right though it and the nails ran right through the pipe into the keel.)
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About midpoint on it there is this copper strap soldered to the pipe that ran up to the bottom of the boat and was attached to a bolt running thought the bottom planking, with a couple of cut off wires attached on the inside.

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Any guesses what this was used for???? :D
 

kcassells

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Oh sheeeesss..hmmm I'll be the first dummy. Maybe one of them thar dialectric metals inverters. To protect the other underwater metals. I dink there is actually another name for it but it eludes me. Interesting for sure. Can't wait for the answer. Better yet ... a lightning rod diffuser thingy.
 

Bob79

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Wow, Just read the whole journey so far. Your attention to detail is second to none. Your carpentry and joinery skills are a thing to behold!
The reusing of the teak deck and finish is something i could look at all day!!
 

Ned L

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Thank you Bob, It's been fun.
..... About that copper pipe, I'll give these hints. The boat was built in 1957 and the need for that pipe was done away with by about 1974 with a change that effected many involved in boating ( mostly coastal and large bodies of water, not so much small lakes and the like). It's use has nothing to do with plumbing.
 

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I'm guessing lightening rod in case boat was struck by lightening it would go to ground quicker?
 

Patfromny

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Does it have something to do with radar? A way for other boats to see you on the water? Technology changed by 74? The only other thing that changed around 74 was the advent of unleaded gas. That's all I can think of.
 

Willyclay

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LORAN-A phase-out due to LORAN-C being opened to civilian use in 1974? Copper pipe used to increase radar signature of smaller vessels and/or wooden/fiberglass craft.
 
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Ned L

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There are some good guesses here and I think an ?A? for effort is due. LOL ?.. I guess I?m really showing my age with this one, ?. I didn?t think I am that old?.


So, ?. The survey says???. That was the ground plane for the old AM ship to shore radio.

Up until about 1972 all marine ship to shore radios were AM radios, transmitting in the AM frequency range. That system had a very limited number of channels in (only about 10 as I remember), USCG calling and distress had two of the frequencies ?2182? and ?2678? kHz. This AM marine radio frequency band had a couple of practical shortcomings, the first one being the limited number of frequencies available, another being major radio traffic congestion, to the point that the system was becoming almost useless (even the calling and distress channels were so clogged with traffic that boats in distress couldn?t contact the Coast Guard). This congestion was due to three factors. 1) The very limited number of channels (as mentioned), 2) AM radio broadcast signals are not ?line of sight?, the radio waves will bend and follow the curvature of the earth, which allows for longer transmission distances (adding to the congestion), and 3) there was no transmission power limit as there is with the 25 watts today. -- Our family boat growing up had a 150 watt AM ship to shore radio and on any decent day we could contact the Atlantic City (NJ) Coast Guard from where we boated in the Sandy Hook (NJ) area, that is a distance of just about 100 miles (unheard of with today?s VHF). With so few frequencies, long transmission ranges, and a lot of transmission power available the system was all but useless (unless you had a lot of power and could simply over-ride everyone else when you needed to). Those AM ship to shore radios required a sizable ground plane in order to function, this would have been left over from that time.
About 1970 the FCC proposed and introduced the current VHF system as a direct solution to the problems above. 1) lots of channels available, 2) VHF which is ?line of sight? only ? to eliminate long distance transmission clutter, 3) power limited to 25 watts, to again reduce the long distance transmission clutter. (As everyone knows, there is no ground plane needed for these radios).
There was a two or three year change over period (ending about 1974), at the end of which it was no longer legal to use the old AM ship to shore radios.


Just some useless trivia for those who might be interested.


I will say that spending some of my young years with the old system, and having 150 watts available certainly re-enforced proper and polite radio use. Knowing that whenever you key up the mike you pretty much stomp out everyone else within a 25 mile radius REALLY makes you think twice; and makes you keep it short, to the point and polite.
 

Ned L

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I finally did something the other day that was nice to be able to finally do. I put the builders plaque back in place, .... no HIN on this boat, simply Hull number 710.

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I also picked the starboard engine head up on Friday. Not so pretty here, .....

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but looking better here.

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The engine is also looking better.

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A second coat here and some paint on the head and manifold and it will start going back together.

While in here I pulled all the valves, cleaned the guides (a couple of valves were sticky), and will check and adjust the lash.



The bottom looks a bit better with a fresh coat of bottom paint

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