Are Good Year Marathons still bad tires?

[642mx]

Re: Are Good Year Marathons still bad tires?

HA HA HA! I drive on Michelin and would never own a Goodyear tire. That doesn't mean I would bash them without cause. I just know that building a tire primarily for the auto manufacturers is not as good as building for the consumer. You wouldn't understand that issue either, since you have no understanding of tire design and matching compounds with its proper tread design for either the emphysis on traction or MPG. That said, being in the field for over thirty years provides me with facts of lack of care by the consumer. I don't pretend to be an expert on boats, but you can't seem to admit you don't know squat about tires

Well... I have a degree in automotive service technology. I bet I understand more than you think...

 

[PopsRacer]

Re: Are Good Year Marathons still bad tires?

Quote: "Exactly... and he believes that we blame problems on the manufacturer when its the dealers fault... but when I educated him on my experience, he didn't have much to say for the beloved GY company (that he probably works for)....lol "

HA HA HA! I drive on Michelin and would never own a Goodyear tire. That doesn't mean I would bash them without cause. I just know that building a tire primarily for the auto manufacturers is not as good as building for the consumer. You wouldn't understand that issue either, since you have no understanding of tire design and matching compounds with its proper tread design for either the emphysis on traction or MPG. That said, being in the field for over thirty years provides me with facts of lack of care by the consumer. I don't pretend to be an expert on boats, but you can't seem to admit you don't know squat about tires.

It's not what YOU know or don't know, it's your degrading tennure... Sorta along the lines of what you said earlier, You sound like the guy who drives right on past the old lady who's pulled over with a flat tire in 5? weather because "she didn't properly maintain her tires". (I watched that happen this morning on my way in to work when I stopped to change her tire for her, her flat was ripped to shreds with rim damge so she obviously drove on it awhile before stopping.) Seriously, that's the attitude you're presenting here, it's nothing against your knowledge, there's know doubt you know alot about tires, but there's no reason to be degrading others in your replies..

I mean, if everyone else here was that degrading, this reply would be ripping you to shreds and be my last visit here, not that it would matter any, but I certainly wouldn't be buying anything else from iBoats.com either. The only reason I signed up here was because I just dropped a small chunk of change to have a custom cover delivered and this place seemed like a friendly environment to share experiences, opinions, and facts. An old man once told me that rudeness is the result of frustration from owning a very limited vocabulary. I tend to agree with him since my vocabulary has always been very limited.

As for your reply about Nissan and Crownline, they do... Show me where to change the Engine Oil in my Trailer Tires, then their maintenance will be even.

 

[JimS123]

Re: Are Good Year Marathons still bad tires?

My 1973 car was equipped with Goodyears from the factory when I bought it new. Liked them so much that since then I have never bought any auto tire that wasn't a GY. My 1994 car came equipped with Michelins - 2nd worst tire I ever owned. Ran them 3 months and switched to GY. I would't put a Michelin on my wheelbarrow. I never had a GY let me down.

In 2005 we bought 2 new boat trailers - both were equipped with China Carlisles. Both were less than a week old when a tire on each trailer blew. They were properly inflated, kept in the garage and properly maintained (LOL- they weren't old enough to be improperly maintained).

China trailer tires i bought in the 1980's lasted about 2 years max. I switched to GY bias plys and would get 5 or 6 years out of them, with the same level of usage and maintenance.

Just my experience.

 

[wbc1957]

Re: Are Good Year Marathons still bad tires?

My 1973 car was equipped with Goodyears from the factory when I bought it new. Liked them so much that since then I have never bought any auto tire that wasn't a GY. My 1994 car came equipped with Michelins - 2nd worst tire I ever owned. Ran them 3 months and switched to GY. I would't put a Michelin on my wheelbarrow. I never had a GY let me down.

Wow, you made a decision lasting more than three decades on what you experienced back in '73? That's four years before they even came out with the first all season tire! Wow, that takes guts. Plus you are making these decisions based on OE tires. I don't mean to burst your bubble but the tires they put on OE is not the same compound tires they sell in the aftermarket. Sure, some overstock will get into the aftermarket, but if a tire builder wants to keep his customer happy with the car builder, than the tire needs to help in the MPG category so that the CAFE averages stay low. Just to understand, a marble will roll further than a nerf ball, but the nerf ball has more traction. When you, the customer, wants to consider tire replacement, you think of traction first, and MPG's either second or further down the list. One's life is more important. I grew up in a household riding on experimental tires, including the first all season tire, the Tiempo, by Goodyear. Sure, it changed the way people drive even to this day, but it was never OE on a car. The Vector was though, after the Arriva. This one was tweeked so much for GM to meet their CAFE requirements, that the tire was the biggest flop in the retail world. What traction? So, my point is for you to continue to check in occasionally to new developments in any product. But understand what is most important for the OE needs, is not always most important for you. And yes, running bias ply tires on your trailer may be just right for you, whereas another may want radials for longer hauls. Keep this in mind, there's four square inches of contact at each corner of your vehicle, even less on single axle trailers and motorcycles. It's what matters to you in that small area of contact, that matters most.

 

[JimS123]

Re: Are Good Year Marathons still bad tires?

Wow, you made a decision lasting more than three decades on what you experienced back in '73? That's four years before they even came out with the first all season tire! Wow, that takes guts. Plus you are making these decisions based on OE tires. I don't mean to burst your bubble but the tires they put on OE is not the same compound tires they sell in the aftermarket.

No, you misinterpreted what I said. No bubble bursted, I understand the difference between OE and aftermmarket!

My opinion is not based on tires made three decades ago - its based on 3 decades of being a satisfied customer. I was so happy with the OEs in 1973 that I have bought Goodyears for every car since then.....not more OEs but premium tires direct from Goodyear.

Its not a matter of guts. When I buy a product and it greatly exceeds my expectations, I return and buy more. Now, if I buy a set of GYs in the future that are crap, I might change my opinion.

But, like I said, they have never let me down. I usually get about 45-50,000 miles on a set of tires. My current Tripletreads are going on 70,000 milkes and still pull fine thru the snow (there was a foot in the driveway this morning and I was too lazy to shovel, but got thru just fine.)

I DO continue to check on new developments. Every time GY makes one, I buy it....LOL. Not saying other companies don't have a product as good, I just see no reason to experiment.

As far as trailer tires, mine came with bias ply and they have beed good as well. I replaced in like kind and have been happy with the results.