Are Good Year Marathons still bad tires?

[PopsRacer]

Re: Are Good Year Marathons still bad tires?

They're junk... My Jayco Travel Trailer came with them and they've been blowing out prematurely... I've been replacing them and also my boat trailer tires with Carlisle Radials from Discount tire since Carlisle is made in the USA and I don't particularly care for the Bias ply designs.. From my understanding, Maxxis are supposed to be really good, but I think they might be made in Taiwan...

 

[JimS123]

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They're junk... My Jayco Travel Trailer came with them and they've been blowing out prematurely... I've been replacing them and also my boat trailer tires with Carlisle Radials from Discount tire since Carlisle is made in the USA and I don't particularly care for the Bias ply designs.. From my understanding, Maxxis are supposed to be really good, but I think they might be made in Taiwan...

Carlisle only makes 1 tire model in the USA. Its their "USA Trail" and is a bias tire. Their radials are chinese.

 

[DJ]

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They're junk... My Jayco Travel Trailer came with them and they've been blowing out prematurely... I've been replacing them and also my boat trailer tires with Carlisle Radials from Discount tire since Carlisle is made in the USA and I don't particularly care for the Bias ply designs.. From my understanding, Maxxis are supposed to be really good, but I think they might be made in Taiwan...

We'll be talking about that experience, this time-next year

 

[wbc1957]

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Quote: "They're junk... My Jayco Travel Trailer came with them and they've been blowing out prematurely... I've been replacing them and also my boat trailer tires with Carlisle Radials from Discount tire since Carlisle is made in the USA and I don't particularly care for the Bias ply designs.. From my understanding, Maxxis are supposed to be really good, but I think they might be made in Taiwan... "

That's such an expert piece of information! NOT! Never mind we don't know the age of your factory tires (came with the trailer), how you maintained them, or what load situation you are putting them under. You sound like a guy I spoke to the other day, who believes all Toyotas are "junk" because of the issue last year on brakes. Let's just not look into the facts of the issue, right? For the record, I promote no tire more than the other, but I will say that whatever tire you buy, it should be new stock, serviced and installed correctly to begin with, and then maintained throughout its life. If you put it into a misuse situation, then you are the defect, not the tire.

 

[PopsRacer]

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Carlisle only makes 1 tire model in the USA. Its their "USA Trail" and is a bias tire. Their radials are chinese.

Well doesn't that figure.... Thanks!!!

We'll be talking about that experience, this time-next year

Very possibly.....

 

[DJ]

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Well doesn't that figure.... Thanks!!!



Very possibly.....

Personnaly, I wouldn't put Carlisles on my lawn mower or wheelbarrow.

 

[PopsRacer]

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Quote: "They're junk... My Jayco Travel Trailer came with them and they've been blowing out prematurely... I've been replacing them and also my boat trailer tires with Carlisle Radials from Discount tire since Carlisle is made in the USA and I don't particularly care for the Bias ply designs.. From my understanding, Maxxis are supposed to be really good, but I think they might be made in Taiwan... "

That's such an expert piece of information! NOT! Never mind we don't know the age of your factory tires (came with the trailer), how you maintained them, or what load situation you are putting them under. You sound like a guy I spoke to the other day, who believes all Toyotas are "junk" because of the issue last year on brakes. Let's just not look into the facts of the issue, right? For the record, I promote no tire more than the other, but I will say that whatever tire you buy, it should be new stock, serviced and installed correctly to begin with, and then maintained throughout its life. If you put it into a misuse situation, then you are the defect, not the tire.

Easy there Pistol Pete.... I don't recall the rules stating that I need your blessing to post here... With me being a newbie to this site I can understand your doubt.. Folks who know me from other forums know me better than that... As far as being an "expert", I never claimed to be...

Tires were less than 2 yrs old, are covered when in storage, and I always check the PSI and inflate properly before heading out, especially cross-country... As for you not promoting one tire over the other, your posts above sound like they're coming from the Goodyear Marketing Center... You didn't see me responding to your experience with sarcasm, yet you respond to mine that way... Quite a classy way to reply to the "new guy", heh?

 

[PopsRacer]

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Personnaly, I wouldn't put Carlisles on my lawn mower or wheelbarrow.

I know light truck tires pretty well but am new to trailer tires.. I just know that my 2007 Goodyear Marathons don't seem to be faring well... I'm not saying Carlisle are better and sorry if it came across that way, I've just read that they are but haven't had them long enough yet.

 

[DJ]

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I know light truck tires pretty well but am new to trailer tires.. I just know that my 2007 Goodyear Marathons don't seem to be faring well... I'm not saying Carlisle are better and sorry if it came across that way, I've just read that they are but haven't had them long enough yet.

Like I said; time will tell. Maybe I'm wrong-I hope so.

 

[PopsRacer]

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Like I said; time will tell. Maybe I'm wrong-I hope so.

If not then I'll likey try Maxxis next... It'd be really nice to find some quality USA made tires again... Goodyear used to be them back in the day.

 

[wbc1957]

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Quote "Easy there Pistol Pete.... I don't recall the rules stating that I need your blessing to post here... With me being a newbie to this site I can understand your doubt.. Folks who know me from other forums know me better than that... As far as being an "expert", I never claimed to be...

Tires were less than 2 yrs old, are covered when in storage, and I always check the PSI and inflate properly before heading out, especially cross-country... As for you not promoting one tire over the other, your posts above sound like they're coming from the Goodyear Marketing Center... You didn't see me responding to your experience with sarcasm, yet you respond to mine that way... Quite a classy way to reply to the "new guy", heh?"

I have stated in the past and will again now, I DO NOT CARE what brand you speak of. As for your proper care of covering the tires, that is not enough. Taking the load off of them when not in use, rebalancing them annually, and checking for damage or irregular wear, and proper inflation, is the standard of proper maintenance. What your thinking seems to compare to, is like having a battery sit for months on end and expecting long life if you charge it just before use. That's also like putting fuel into the tank and thinking the engine should always run good, right? Go ahead and change brands. Following your same pattern of minimum to no care will not change the outcome. You made my point, sir.

 

[Outsider]

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I am VERY particular abut maintance and they were never ran uninflated.

You must have done something wrong, wbc1957 would have us believe all tire failures are due to owner neglect.

It's a global economy now, and some just don't want to believe there are products now-a-days from some countries (including the ole USA) that just plain suck. And that includes tires, some of which suck more than others ...

 

[PopsRacer]

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I have stated in the past and will again now, I DO NOT CARE what brand you speak of. As for your proper care of covering the tires, that is not enough. Taking the load off of them when not in use, rebalancing them annually, and checking for damage or irregular wear, and proper inflation, is the standard of proper maintenance. What your thinking seems to compare to, is like having a battery sit for months on end and expecting long life if you charge it just before use. That's also like putting fuel into the tank and thinking the engine should always run good, right? Go ahead and change brands. Following your same pattern of minimum to no care will not change the outcome. You made my point, sir.

Good point there... I've been considering putting both trailers up on blocks during the winter months (I will this year after reading your reply) and the tire shops here really don't worry about balancing Trailer tires so it doesn't get done unless specifically asked for.. Just because I had my new tires balanced doesn't mean the OEM Marathons were balanced when they were put on at the Jayco plant.

 

[wbc1957]

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Nice insult Outsider, but the truth is the guy failed to cover HOW he handled his maintenance, other than covering them, before bashing his tires. You'd want particulars in any question some guy wanted answers to, about his boat. It sounds to me you have a double standard when providing real knowledgable information. As for product quality today, any major brand will provide better quality than the previous decade, within their same operating plant. YES, NAFTA has caused many issues in regard to quality with anything we buy, and buyer beware. But, bashing any brand tire based on lack of full disclosure is the same as making a statement of saying the sky is not blue, and failing to state it is based on it being night at the time. Obviously you are more interested in planting a smart remark without any real substance on the issue. Most failures with anything, are based on improper maintenance and use OR buying old stock. Sure, you would eat date expired food, right? Therefore, getting full disclosure is only proper when accepting someone's opinion. If you don't understand this, you probably believe anything at face value.

 

[PopsRacer]

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Nice insult Outsider, but the truth is the guy failed to cover HOW he handled his maintenance, other than covering them, before bashing his tires. You'd want particulars in any question some guy wanted answers to, about his boat. It sounds to me you have a double standard when providing real knowledgable information. As for product quality today, any major brand will provide better quality than the previous decade, within their same operating plant. YES, NAFTA has caused many issues in regard to quality with anything we buy, and buyer beware. But, bashing any brand tire based on lack of full disclosure is the same as making a statement of saying the sky is not blue, and failing to state it is based on it being night at the time. Obviously you are more interested in planting a smart remark without any real substance on the issue. Most failures with anything, are based on improper maintenance and use OR buying old stock. Sure, you would eat date expired food, right? Therefore, getting full disclosure is only proper when accepting someone's opinion. If you don't understand this, you probably believe anything at face value.

Regardless, there were plenty of trailer tires last alot longer than that with more sitting and less "maintenance" back when I was working in the oilfields... Anything having the treads seperate in less than 2-yrs is junk IMHO... Maybe they're all that way nowadays, but that doesn't make them "good" in my book.... No offense intended, but they're still junk IMHO. For the prices they charge, trailer tires should be made to last at least a few years with lack of "maintenance"..

 

[wbc1957]

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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I guess for they charge for a Crownline or Nissan, it should last for a few years with lack of maintenance, otherwise it's junk too.

 

[cribber]

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In my part of the world the sun destroys everything that moisture doesn't. I have 2007 Marathons on my trailer (that's how i got it) and 2007 Michelins on my SUV. I noticed fine cracks in th Michelins (USA made) and the rubber on the marthons are crack free so go figure. My SUV sits out in the sun all day in the parking lot at work and the boat trailer is on the north side of the house in the shade. Anyone want to buy a used set of Michelins with decent tread left on them?

 

[642mx]

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wbc1957 would have us believe all tire failures are due to owner neglect.

Exactly... and he believes that we blame problems on the manufacturer when its the dealers fault... but when I educated him on my experience, he didn't have much to say for the beloved GY company (that he probably works for)....lol

 

[fishrdan]

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I just know that my 2007 Goodyear Marathons don't seem to be faring well...

Where were those made?

I bought a set of Marathons off the internet around that time frame and was sadly disappointed to see CHINA embossed into the side of the tire Those tires rode horrible and I had them balanced after the first trip, still rode bad, but much better than before balancing. I got rid of them when I got rid of the boat, so not sure how they held up.

I've heard GY stopped making a lot of the Marathon sizes in China recently as they took a big hit from customer loyalty when they outsourced to China. IF,,, I were to buy Marathon's again, the first thing I'd look at is where they were made.

I should say, before buying that set of tires in 07, I had bought 3-4 sets of Marathons and had good luck with them. When I bought a set recently, I bought TowMasters....

 

[wbc1957]

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Quote: "Exactly... and he believes that we blame problems on the manufacturer when its the dealers fault... but when I educated him on my experience, he didn't have much to say for the beloved GY company (that he probably works for)....lol "

HA HA HA! I drive on Michelin and would never own a Goodyear tire. That doesn't mean I would bash them without cause. I just know that building a tire primarily for the auto manufacturers is not as good as building for the consumer. You wouldn't understand that issue either, since you have no understanding of tire design and matching compounds with its proper tread design for either the emphysis on traction or MPG. That said, being in the field for over thirty years provides me with facts of lack of care by the consumer. I don't pretend to be an expert on boats, but you can't seem to admit you don't know squat about tires.