Anybody else deal with asian carp?

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We have a ski boat on the illinois river and even though we don't stir them up like an aluminum w an outboard we can still make quite a few pop, i just wonder who else has to deal w this problem as we have had a few land in the boat. Today in fact we were putting down the river and probably a 10lb er jumped in the boat and brushed my 5yr olds head on the way.....id hate to have one fly in at 50!
 

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Re: Anybody else deal with asian carp?

only way i like to deal with em is on a plate. them are some of the best tasting whitest meat fish in the us inland waters. heading to bath havana area soon for more. im out.
 

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Re: Anybody else deal with asian carp?

Don't have them yet but I know it is only a matter of time once they get into Lake Michigan, I am on the St Joe river pretty far up from the lake but they will still get here eventually.
 

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Re: Anybody else deal with asian carp?

Buy motorcycle helmets for you and all of the passengers.
 

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Don't have them yet but I know it is only a matter of time once they get into Lake Michigan, I am on the St Joe river pretty far up from the lake but they will still get here eventually.

they found Asian Carp past the electric barriers in 2009. hate to say it, however they are already in Lake Michigan.
 

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I've seen the videos and its disturbing.
I assume these things kill off all the native fish. I would hate to see these fish in Saskatchewan lakes. Maybe they can't handle the long winters.
 

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I know they are a nuisance and a big threat to our native fish, they also are about impossible to catch on rod and reel because they are filter feeders. I have caught 2 that were stocked in a small farm pond to help clear the perpetually dirty water, turns out they only made it worse because as the water cleared, they would stir up the bottom some more to put food back into the water they slowly swim though to feed like some freshwater whales. They can grow very large w the right conditions and I've seen some 4' long over 50lbs! Heres one of the ones I hooked while retrieving a bottom rig for catfish in the pond. It was quite a fight and the 2nd fish was bigger than this one but no pics of it. I tried to eat some of this one but it was horrible, maybe due to it's age and size and the very muddy water in the pond.
 

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jigngrub

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Re: Anybody else deal with asian carp?

they found Asian Carp past the electric barriers in 2009. hate to say it, however they are already in Lake Michigan.

Hog Wash!

If they're already in the great lakes why aren't they jumping around and knocking people out of boats and off of jet skis? If these fish were in the great lakes they would be abundant and visible.

... or maybe they're just hiding, regrouping, and mapping out a strategic battle plan to overthrow Canada and the northern US?
 

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We used to go to the Il. river at Henry for catfish. Asian carp were so bad that I refuse to go back there. At one time, I had 8 of 'em in the boat flopping around ang getting slime on everything they came in contact with. For those that have only seen videos of the Asian carp jumping, it's for real!
 

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only way i like to deal with em is on a plate. them are some of the best tasting whitest meat fish in the us inland waters. heading to bath havana area soon for more. im out.


wow .... I've never tasted one but that goes against everything I've been told .... do you have any special cleaning/cooking tips

Jim
 

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Yeah, I've read and heard all of that "The sky is falling, the sky is falling" hype... but nobody is catching or seeing any past the barrier except for 1 small fish I think.

Like I said earlier, if they were in the great lakes they'd be showing up in numbers and would be seen and encountered a lot more than just DNA traces... and there will be much much more hoopla than just trace amounts of DNA (Carp whiz). There will be screeching and hollering of epic proportions... especially from the Canadians.
 

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jigngrub, not going to get in a pissing match. if fish are found past the electric barriers, they are in lake Michigan. if "carp wiz" is found up-stream of the barriers, the fish are in lake Michigan Water can not flow up stream. The only saving grace is the zebra mussels may have eaten all the food normally eaten by the carp. That is most likely why they havent gone past the cesspool that is the Chicago channel. The only way to keep the carp out of the great lakes is to close the channel.
 

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Starting next year it will be legal to hunt them (shotgun) from a boat in Missouri. :D

Lots of guys around my area are looking forward to getting some shooting practice in.


ya gotta love Missouri ..:D.. one of our sons is doing his residency in St Louis, I'm going to make sure he knows about this .... info appreciated

Jim
 

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Re: Anybody else deal with asian carp?

I do go on Michigan alot, and like to perch fish, the Round Goby, are starting to be a real problem. I fish in rocky bottom, about 17' deep. I used to be able to get my 5 in under 2 hours ( I only keep 12" or bigger), this year It takes about 6hrs now. I get 25 Goby to one (any size) perch.
 

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jigngrub, not going to get in a pissing match.

The only saving grace is the zebra mussels may have eaten all the food normally eaten by the carp. That is most likely why they havent gone past the cesspool that is the Chicago channel.

Not trying to get into a pissing match, just saying if they've been past the barrier for 4 yrs. and no one has actually seen or captured one... doesn't that seem a little fishy to you?

There is the clear and fairly infertile water factor of the great lakes that could keep the population down, but even a bigger factor is this:

[QUOTELIFE CYCLE BIOLOGY AND LIFE HISTORY: Bighead carp are exclusively
freshwater fish. They prefer large rivers and will not spawn in still water or small
streams but do inhabit lakes and ponds
. Spawning occurs after spring rains have flooded
the rivers and when the temperature of the water reaches 77o F. External fertilization
takes place and the eggs float downstream. Bighead carp grow rapidly and once they
reach maturity they are able to gain a pound or more per month. They feed on
zooplankton but they are opportunistic feeders, meaning if zooplankton levels are low
they will eat phytoplankton and detritus. They filter the water through their comb-like
gill rakers so they only consume those organisms small enough to penetrate their filter
feeding apparatus.][/QUOTE]

If they do get into the great lakes in numbers, they'll have to find a decent sized river with a good amount of flow to spawn in... and there aren't that many large rivers that flow into the great lakes. This will make them easy to target in the spring for population control.

I'm thinking if they do get into the great lakes in numbers they're going to head for Niagra River and the St. Lawrence Seaway (River), this is prime Asian Carp breeding and living quarters. Lots of current for breeding and pretty fertile too.

Once they make it to the St. Lawrence... who cares? Let them pester the snot out of the Quebecois, it'll serve them right for letting the Sea Lamprey into the great lakes. The Sea Lamprey is the most destructive and usless invasive species in North America.
 

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Re: Anybody else deal with asian carp?

doesnt seam fishy to me. I remember when people said that the zebra mussels were going hit the great lakes and the lackadaisical attitude "because there was none found" and look, now we have an issue.

However we all know that Lake Michigan doesnt hit 77 degrees unless its really shallow, and only in small bays, so that will also help keep the population down.

I also agree on the Sea Lamprey as well as the Alewife shouldnt be in the great lakes.
 
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