al-Zarqawi

Kwas

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I think it is very unethical for the government to parade pics like that around in front of the media and the whole world to see when we're not even allowed to see OUR OWN dead!!!!! I see a problem with that.<br />
One has nothing to do with the other, what's your point?
 

mikeandronda

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Mrbscott, maybe we should drag them through the streets or hang them from bridges and burn them......I mean thats what they do to our guys who die and we dont get the bodies back.........We showed his DEAD face so that they can not deny we killed him.....thats it.
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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Don't really matter at this point but;<br />Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was alive when U.S. troops reached him after the U.S. bombing raid, but died "almost immediately" after, Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said.<br /><br />Hmmmmmmm, maybe someone popped a cap on him.<br />I would hope so. :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

Kwas

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rodbolt, would you please get it out of your head that the troops should be coming home.<br /><br />Did we ever come home from Germany?<br />Did we ever come home from Korea?<br /><br />
And Japan and Kosovo and other countries all over the world.
 

mrbscott19

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Originally posted by Kwas:<br />
I think it is very unethical for the government to parade pics like that around in front of the media and the whole world to see when we're not even allowed to see OUR OWN dead!!!!! I see a problem with that.<br />
One has nothing to do with the other, what's your point?
I have no point, just as you don't either. This is a pointless thread. But I would be interested to hear how the 2 have nothing to do with each other. We can televise and celebrate the death of our enemies, but not to mourn our own. Just another example of the Administration flaunting the good while hiding the bad. It gets real old.<br /><br />Out of sight out of mind I suppose.
 

mrbscott19

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Originally posted by mikeandronda:<br /> Mrbscott, maybe we should drag them through the streets or hang them from bridges and burn them......I mean thats what they do to our guys who die and we dont get the bodies back.........We showed his DEAD face so that they can not deny we killed him.....thats it.
I have no problem with that....I don't care that we put his photo up, I care that the other side of the death toll isn't allowed to be shown.
 

LubeDude

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This poor fellow, he must have had a family, and we shamlesly took him away and left his family without a bread winner. We should be ashamed of ourselves and the military for even thinking about killing him, we have become so insensative and have become just like the terrorists. The USA is the biggest terrorists nation on earth. Now, who will head up the convoy of people we will send over for his funeral and lay a reath on his grave. I bet its Jimmy Carter!<br /><br />I of course dont beleive a word of what I just wrote, but I just thought that I would do it before one of our Feel good Liberals on this board did! :mad: <br /><br />This is too good for him.<br /><br />"Now just wrap him up in a pigs hide and plant him in a pigs pen. BTW I have nothing against swine."
 

12Footer

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Originally posted by mrbscott19:<br /> I think it is very unethical for the government to parade pics like that around in front of the media and the whole world to see when we're not even allowed to see OUR OWN dead!!!!! I see a problem with that.
You would see a problem with that, because the US armed forces got him, his closest droogies, his house, and not the other way around. I wish they could've beheaded him while he was still alive and trying to roll-off the gurney, (a medical rescue device btw), and the video of that event sent to aljazeerah and CBS. This differing opinion of ours further hilights our polarized society. So be it. I would rather be polarised than vested in American defeat.<br />And in the meantime, I will loudly celebrate his demise. He will kill no more. May he burn forever in hell.
 

18rabbit

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Originally posted by KaGee:<br /> Somebody spilled the beans... Sounds like a power struggle internally...
There was 10,000 reasons to rat out the scumbag, and potentially another 25,000,000 reasons still to be decided. Yeah, that's the reward money the person that ratted out the scumbag will collect;$10k for his location, $25-mil for the man himself. Don't think it had anything to do with power struggles. This I heard on the news lastnight.
 

12Footer

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Originally posted by PW2:<br /> 12 Feetz, what would you expect anyone with at least some grasp on reality say?<br /><br />The reality is it is certainly good news. The reality is our troops remain in harm's way, and the outcome of the insurgency, grand Iraqi experiment in democracy, and the stability of the middle east remain in doubt.<br /><br />I just don't see this as cause to celebrate just yet, until the Iraqi people greet us like the French people did as we liberated France after WW II.<br /><br />Somehow, that event does not appear to be scheduled yet.
So, because the war is not over after the death of one Alqueda terrorist (killed in IRAQ btw, not afghanestan), we must cut and run like the french and spaniards?<br />You said it yourself, PW -- {you}"just don't see this as cause to celebrate just yet, until the Iraqi people greet us like the French people did as we liberated France after WW II".<br />"Realistically" speaking, this will probably NEVER take place, will it? <br /><br />And yet, you chose to compare Iraq to WWII France as opposed to WWII Japan, or WWII Germany! And just where the hell were you when they pulled the sandman's statue down amoung a jubulent throng of Iraqis? -- Or did you forget about that as well as the planes crashing into the towers piloted by alzarscumbag's predecessors ??<br /><br />Me? Grasp on reailty? Chile, pleeez.<br /><br /><br /> The fact that you do not see the forest that is squarely in front of your face for the trees paraded before you on CBS nitely news, seperates a nation into two factions. sad commentary, my iboats friend.
 

rottenray6402

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Well said 12feetz! We know this coward will never behead another human being. I also celebrate his demise.
 

POINTER94

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Hey we support our troops, just not their efforts. <br /><br />How about one, just one day, of celebrating a victory. Anyone want to deny this is a victory other than CNN and Air America? Then take a moment from your dissatisfaction with Bush and give our troops the support they should get every day.
 

18rabbit

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For anyone that cares, as if it mattered, it has been confirmed that al-zarqawi was alive when taken into custody, but died moments there after, supposedly from injuries sustained from the initial bomb.
 

PW2

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12 Feetz---<br /><br />Al-Zarqawi came to Iraq late from Jordan. He was taking avdantage of the opportunity we provided to fill the void and create havoc.<br /><br />Revenge is a fine motive, and may make you feel better, but it is rarely effective if you have some sort of ultimate goal in mind.<br /><br />Alqaida will promote someone to fill his boots (there is speculation from some that Alqaida snitched on him themselves because they didn't like his tactics of killing Muslims instead of foreigners (read Americans)<br /><br />I don't know if that is true. I don't know what is true over there.<br /><br />I get the feeling our efforts are as effective as trying to drain a lake with a teacup in the middle of a rainstorm. Each teacup worth emptied may be cause for celebration, if you ignore the rain and resulting river filling it back up.<br /><br />If I had the choice, I'd like to trade a little of our "toughness" for a little more "smartness".
 

12Footer

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I am aware that some people think this war is not winable. however, others think Iraq is winning, and will be self-reliant soon. America will not leave like spain did, as long as the pascifists do not regain control of the United States military to Clinton era levels, creating another Bosnian incident.<br />I thank God every day that they don't already have said control.
 

PW2

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What flavor Kool-Aid is that. 12 Feetz?<br /><br />A classic example of why Steven Colbert coined the word "truthiness" :<br /><br />Believing something to be true because you wish it were true, regardless whether or not the evidence supports it.
 

BoatBuoy

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Originally posted by 12Feetz:<br /> ...as long as the pascifists do not regain control of the United States military to Clinton era levels...
Then that's why this has been such a struggle. Bush said this would be a quick war, and has made proclamations in evidence that he believed that. What he failed to crank into the equation was that he was going to war with an inept "clinton era" military, although he thought it was the best trained and well-equipped military in the world. Somebody should have told him.
 

Haut Medoc

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You guys kill me....<br />Blame Clinton for Dubya's woes....<br />FYI, the war went quick....<br />Our military whupped 'em right quick...<br />It's the occupation that is the problem.....<br />He failed foresee the can of worms that got opened when by taking out Saddam & the resulting power vacuum.....<br />They are basically back to tribal feuding...<br />Now tell me how that is Clinton's fault....JK
 

rodbolt

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bush went to war with his army against all advice, any failures or sucecess are W"s and w's alone.<br /> W surrounded himself with like mined idiots and fired anyone that dissagreed.<br /> so he is reaping what he sowed.<br /> my fear is he is incapeable of learning and daddy cant bail him out of this one.<br /> W was warned on many occasions to hold off for 6 to 8 months to train and equip troops for the task. donny and w blew off the experts and the results are history.<br /> W so far is historys biggest idiot.
 
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