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Re: A "Moving Violation" question (or two)...
Wow! Common, DD.Get real! It isn't as if I called him Mike Moore or Barney Fife.
He had a job to do,and so do most of us gainfully employed . If "butt monkey" is offensive to you from a moral point of view, Wow! You Don't get out much,do you? I'm a bible thumper, and have my moments...but "butt Monkey"??? Heard worse in church! (but then, I'm an old squid ,so "**ther F***" is mainstay on the job,like Soulwinner. I guess I need to keep werkin on that.<br /><br />You're in law enforcement, and you need a bit thicker skin, if you are serious about being offended by my reference.<br />If You took that personally as a fellow proffessional law enforcement officer,DD, you misunderstood where the term was directed. I do respect cops. I think they are way underpaid for what they do, have to be rolling-lawyers who must document every sneeze on the job, (and thier mileage), and put-up with some of the nastiest human debris that breathes at times. Add to that, they must be in the equivalent of the "Dress Whites" we endured in the Navy...I HATED THAT MONKEY-SUIT!! Esspecially the tacky shoes. but y'all must be spit-n-polish for the endurance of you shift,not just in port. And you all need to remain polite,cool and calm,and avoid Mad Cop disease,every time some guy like me disses you.<br />He was all but the latter.(polite or cool).<br />As for his profession--I know I couldn't do it.I'm sorry if my assesment of this guy offends you, but I guess that would be unavoidable,given your proffession. Just understand, I'm talking about that azzclown, not you. It could be any butt monkey, the fact that he was a cop has nothing to do with that assesment,only the way he spoke and acted towards me like he was my daddy on a drunk. I must've really "brassed him off", as Kiwi would say..... And really, he may not be THAT bad (on a good day).<br />But he was an angry, arrogant butt monkey to me, and could've shown a small amount of respect to me too.I did not reciprocate the 'tude, didn't challange him,was polite to him and complied in every way. He had every right to pull me over,and issue a ticket for exceding the speed limit, (an even higher fine,from what I understand), and I wouldn't even question it here! I was speeding. My Driver licsense expired December 27th,not my fault, and have appt to proove it, but this "following too closely" is in my assesment as the victim, unwaranted,given the circumstances. <br />As for your professional opinion concerning this incident, thank you (and everybody else who took the time to reply). Your perspective,along with that of the professional drivers who replied, are making my decission much easier. For instance, whereas I knew about "burden of proof" from a polution case I testified to,and lost-- and was banking on that....But the "intent" thing is news for sure, and food for thought. Also, I WAS too close, I know.But given the traffic conditions, I didn't have a choice. Given this "intent" element to adjudicating guilt, I'm pretty much toast--because I'm still old school enough not to lie in a courtroom.<br />They'll ask. I'll answer. And the fine will be higher than originally spec'd.<br /><br /><br />And Jason, dang-good points about him being concerned about safety...Funny thing tho, I was too at that time. So given that fact, maybee i have a lot to "un-learn" about interstate driving---the school may be the way to go here.<br />And DD, no offense on my part intended or implied
Wow! Common, DD.Get real! It isn't as if I called him Mike Moore or Barney Fife.
He had a job to do,and so do most of us gainfully employed . If "butt monkey" is offensive to you from a moral point of view, Wow! You Don't get out much,do you? I'm a bible thumper, and have my moments...but "butt Monkey"??? Heard worse in church! (but then, I'm an old squid ,so "**ther F***" is mainstay on the job,like Soulwinner. I guess I need to keep werkin on that.<br /><br />You're in law enforcement, and you need a bit thicker skin, if you are serious about being offended by my reference.<br />If You took that personally as a fellow proffessional law enforcement officer,DD, you misunderstood where the term was directed. I do respect cops. I think they are way underpaid for what they do, have to be rolling-lawyers who must document every sneeze on the job, (and thier mileage), and put-up with some of the nastiest human debris that breathes at times. Add to that, they must be in the equivalent of the "Dress Whites" we endured in the Navy...I HATED THAT MONKEY-SUIT!! Esspecially the tacky shoes. but y'all must be spit-n-polish for the endurance of you shift,not just in port. And you all need to remain polite,cool and calm,and avoid Mad Cop disease,every time some guy like me disses you.<br />He was all but the latter.(polite or cool).<br />As for his profession--I know I couldn't do it.I'm sorry if my assesment of this guy offends you, but I guess that would be unavoidable,given your proffession. Just understand, I'm talking about that azzclown, not you. It could be any butt monkey, the fact that he was a cop has nothing to do with that assesment,only the way he spoke and acted towards me like he was my daddy on a drunk. I must've really "brassed him off", as Kiwi would say..... And really, he may not be THAT bad (on a good day).<br />But he was an angry, arrogant butt monkey to me, and could've shown a small amount of respect to me too.I did not reciprocate the 'tude, didn't challange him,was polite to him and complied in every way. He had every right to pull me over,and issue a ticket for exceding the speed limit, (an even higher fine,from what I understand), and I wouldn't even question it here! I was speeding. My Driver licsense expired December 27th,not my fault, and have appt to proove it, but this "following too closely" is in my assesment as the victim, unwaranted,given the circumstances. <br />As for your professional opinion concerning this incident, thank you (and everybody else who took the time to reply). Your perspective,along with that of the professional drivers who replied, are making my decission much easier. For instance, whereas I knew about "burden of proof" from a polution case I testified to,and lost-- and was banking on that....But the "intent" thing is news for sure, and food for thought. Also, I WAS too close, I know.But given the traffic conditions, I didn't have a choice. Given this "intent" element to adjudicating guilt, I'm pretty much toast--because I'm still old school enough not to lie in a courtroom.<br />They'll ask. I'll answer. And the fine will be higher than originally spec'd.<br /><br /><br />And Jason, dang-good points about him being concerned about safety...Funny thing tho, I was too at that time. So given that fact, maybee i have a lot to "un-learn" about interstate driving---the school may be the way to go here.<br />And DD, no offense on my part intended or implied 
