21' Holiday Rebuild

[benfish909]

Looks good! Ill be happy if mine turns out like that!!

Thank you. Now I really want to paint the outside

 

[MNhunter1]

Paint looks great! You've got me thinking I might have to spray mine now

 

[benfish909]

Got some more foam done. Just a small bit to do in the bow. Made a huge mess bc I forgot about the double 3/4” ply under the seat bases so I took a wire wheel and ground down to shape the foam so the piece would fit. Also used a heat gun to shape.

 

[Moserkr]

Battleship is looking good! You will be on the water soon at this rate!!

 

[benfish909]

As a side not I think I am going to move the batteries to under the bow to move some weight forward and I already have to reword everything. Wanted to see if anyone had and thoughts on pros or cons. Also looking at marine vinyl adhesive, it looks like I should use a solvent based adhesive like MD-102 since my floor will be sealed with epoxy. It is pricey And wanted to see what others have used.

 

[Moserkr]

There are plenty of posts and advice about keeping your starter battery close to the motor. Harder to start the farther away it is. So far Im planning on putting one up front and one in the rear. My starter/bilge in the rear, lights/radio/FF in the front. Not wired together.

 

[benfish909]

There are plenty of posts and advice about keeping your starter battery close to the motor. Harder to start the farther away it is. So far Im planning on putting one up front and one in the rear. My starter/bilge in the rear, lights/radio/FF in the front. Not wired together.

I have been trying to figure out the search function but can't get it to work well. I would think if you used large enough wire the distance wouldn't effect it too much but electrical knowledge is limited. Say use some tin copper 2/0 wire for a 90hp motor or would there still be significance volt drop. I didn't even think about the extra physical abuse from being in the bow. Now I'm thinking keep it simple and keep them in the transom area.

 

[Moserkr]

Just my .02 - your big boat shouldnt notice that much weight difference up front. Plus the cost of that large of wire is not cheap to run that far, but in theory would work. Will still have some loss regardless. Also i agree there will be more abuse in the front.

 

[SHSU]

As a side not I think I am going to move the batteries to under the bow to move some weight forward and I already have to reword everything. Wanted to see if anyone had and thoughts on pros or cons. Also looking at marine vinyl adhesive, it looks like I should use a solvent based adhesive like MD-102 since my floor will be sealed with epoxy. It is pricey And wanted to see what others have used.

Our boat is 5 ft shorter so it was a bigger impact, but I have my two house batteries up under the front seating area and my starter back by the motor. As others have said, the long run for a properly sized wire will cost but can be done.

I used 3M 90 Spray Adhesive. Worked well for my floors and seats, as they had mechanical fastener as well. Not so much when it was the only thing holding it on on the sides of the hull.... I eventually went to some exterior vinyl adhesive from the big box store. It did better, but again the aluminum was a hard surface to adhere too. That being said, if you really want to make sure it sticks save the last coat of epoxy for in the boat and use it to adhere the vinyl. Don't think you will ever have an issue with it come up then.

SHSU

 

[benfish909]

Our boat is 5 ft shorter so it was a bigger impact, but I have my two house batteries up under the front seating area and my starter back by the motor. As others have said, the long run for a properly sized wire will cost but can be done.

I used 3M 90 Spray Adhesive. Worked well for my floors and seats, as they had mechanical fastener as well. Not so much when it was the only thing holding it on on the sides of the hull.... I eventually went to some exterior vinyl adhesive from the big box store. It did better, but again the aluminum was a hard surface to adhere too. That being said, if you really want to make sure it sticks save the last coat of epoxy for in the boat and use it to adhere the vinyl. Don't think you will ever have an issue with it come up then.

SHSU

I ended up on deciding to do hydro turf for the little storage shelf’s and up the gunwale bc I would have had to order another 9’ of vinyl and the hydro turf is cheaper and easier to install. I won’t have any mechanical fasteners holding the flooring down except the seat bases. May just bite the bullet and get the expensive solvent based glue but wanted to see others results with using the stuff from big box stores.

I thought about using the last coat of epoxy as glue but worried about it just cracking instead of flexing like an adhesive

 

[SHSU]

I ended up on deciding to do hydro turf for the little storage shelf’s and up the gunwale bc I would have had to order another 9’ of vinyl and the hydro turf is cheaper and easier to install. I won’t have any mechanical fasteners holding the flooring down except the seat bases. May just bite the bullet and get the expensive solvent based glue but wanted to see others results with using the stuff from big box stores.

I thought about using the last coat of epoxy as glue but worried about it just cracking instead of flexing like an adhesive

If you read some of the old threads, a lot have used the exterior Big Box store glue for vinyl. As long as your comfortable with it, that is all that matters

SHSU

 

[benfish909]

Got some more epoxy done on the floor panels and ordered some long rivets to install flooring. While the epoxy cures I made the first half of my kicker bracket / riser. I have a long shaft kicker and it always sat too low when raised up. It would drag and spray water when under way so this should help. Made with 1/4” x 3” angle aluminum.

 

[SHSU]

Very nice!!!

I know I shouldn't ask, but why does one set of bolts have washers and the others don't?

SHSU

 

[benfish909]

Very nice!!!

I know I shouldn't ask, but why does one set of bolts have washers and the others don't?

SHSU

I noticed that in the picture too. Oops. I get in a rush when covered in 5200. Not sure why, it takes a week to dry lol

 

[SHSU]

I noticed that in the picture too. Oops. I get in a rush when covered in 5200. Not sure why, it takes a week to dry lol

lol

We all have done that at least once on our projects.

Not sure the washer is needed anyways with the aluminum bracing you already have in place. So not a big deal if you decide to leave and not worry about it. Once you cover with the motor and splashwell you would never know.

SHSU

 

[benfish909]

Got the kicker bracket cut and sanded but the bolts I bought have different threads than the nuts. Didn’t check at the store I guess. Got some paint over the epoxied floors bc I am running low on epoxy to do a ton of coats on the floor and don’t feel like buying more at $150 per gallon. Some pieces have 2 coats of epoxy then paint. Others have 1 coat of epoxy then paint.

 

[SHSU]

Looking good

That bracket is looking really nice.

SHSU

 

[benfish909]

Looking good

That bracket is looking really nice.

SHSU

Thanks. It might be a touch too high but can just cut it down if needed. We will see when the motor get mounted

 

[Moserkr]

I like it! That mount looks solid.

 

[benfish909]

Got the deck down. Still need to finish riveting. Didn’t countersink the rivets. Tried a couple that will be covered by the gas tank I liked the way they looked with out countersinking. Have some fitment issues between a piece but can fill with fairing compound.
Looking at using garage flooring and looking to see if anyone has tried it but couldn’t find anything using the search function.
The dog was ready to go home.