1980 Terry bass boat restoration...it begins!

[gm280]

BYK, The fact is, I was YOU not that many moons ago. I bought an old trashed tri-hull boat that needed everything rebuilt. And I went thought the exact same information over-load, thinking, what did I get myself in to? But little by little I read, learned and listened to the advice offered on these forums. It may sound like opposing opinions and ideas some times, but if you filter it all, you will see everybody is basically rebuilding theirs the same way. 1708 can be purchased in rolled 6" strips or by the 50" wide yards. Same with CSM (Chopped Strand Matt). Usually CSM is used to waterproof wood materials before installing them in place. 1708 is usually used for real strong tabbing and strength applications. And after a while you too will be slinging around the "technical terms" like everybody else. It is a quick learning curve for sure. WOG already explained the Peanut Butter story. I guess the reason it is called peanut butter is because that is usually the consistency most mix theirs too. But there is no one recipe for PD. Once you mix your first batch, you will adjust it to your wants and needs like everybody else does. There really is no wrong way to mix PB. So take a long deep breathe (or five) and don't be overwhelmed. It will all work out and you will be amazed at what YOU accomplished in short order. If you care to see, take a look at my boat project at the link below. I'm not finished, but I now know how to finish. And I seriously like your boat design and am interesting in your new project. JMHO! :thumb:

 

[DeepBlue2010]

Guys, be kind to our eyes and break your reply into paragraphs. Do you see this button on the keyboard with the little “Enter” on it, use it

The whole idea behind rebuilding/restoring a boat is to avoid the factory negligence and cost saving techniques that doomed the vessel to the junk yard to begin with.
The closed cell foam – installed correctly – is not supposed to come in contact with water in amounts or longevity that can compromise its integrity.

 

[gm280]

Guys, be kind to our eyes and break your reply into paragraphs. Do you see this button on the keyboard with the little “Enter” on it, use it

The whole idea behind rebuilding/restoring a boat is to avoid the factory negligence and cost saving techniques that doomed the vessel to the junk yard to begin with.
The closed cell foam – installed correctly – is not supposed to come in contact with water in amounts or longevity that can compromise its integrity.

Ha Deep, I resemble that remark...ound:

I'll try to shorten my replies and separate them into paragraphs. :noidea:

How am I doing now?

 

[Woodonglass]

With all that spacing

It took me an hour

To get through

That lengthy


response!!!!

 

[DeepBlue2010]

You guys

Are funny

Please go

Jump of

a window



By the way, I wasn't asking for shorter replies. Just more readable ones no matter the length

 

[Woodonglass]

It's

A

Slow

Day!

Just

HAvin

Some

Fun

At

Your

Expense!!!!

:laugh::lol:

Please

Forgive!!!

:sorry:ray:

 

[gm280]

It's

A

Slow

Day!

Just

HAvin

Some

Fun

At

Your

Expense!!!!

:laugh::lol:

Please

Forgive!!!

:sorry:ray:

Wood

On

Glass,

I for-

give

you.

Okay,

In all honestly Deep, I do ramble on and should watch my replies. Folks really don't like such lengthy replies that basically say nothing. :sorry:

I'll certainly try to watch that in the future.

 

[DeepBlue2010]

All in good fun guys

 

[BackyardKrazy]

Wow your guys are bored.... :laugh:

I haven't been able to tackle much lately, been doing extra hours at work. We are swamped, and ya gotta make hay when the sun shines...

Ok so I priced some materials today at Burnside Fiberglass. 2lb foam is $144.00 per two gallon kit. I think Ill grab two kits. That'll give me 8 cubic ft. They don't stock 1708 fiberglass, but she does keep 1808 in stock which she says is a bit heavier and will do the job nicely for $12 a yard 50" wide. that's a good deal. Ill grab a bunch of that. The 5 gal pail of resin is $197.00 incl hardener so Ill grab one of those. That should do it.

I already have some chopped fiberglass bought, so that should come in handy.

I forgot to ask them about cabosil, TC do you know if they sell it or where to buy it around here? Also, do you just activate it with the resin hardener?

 

[DeepBlue2010]

Keep in mind that the resin has very limited shelf life. If you are planning on crancking work and getting her done, go for it. If you have any work to be done or waiting time due weather or what have you, don't buy the resin now, it will go bad in just few months specially in the winter

 

[gm280]

BYK, the 1808 will work as well. It is a little heavier then the 1708 in that the 18 portion is the woven material weight. So that isn't a job stopper at all. DeepBlue is correct about the resin going stale in a few short months. So buy that if you have serious plans to work on it within the next week or so.

You will still need the Cabisol because that is the thickening agent to mix the PB that you will certain need. You could ask them if they have something similar to the Cabisol to thicken the polyester. They could have a similar product by another name. :noidea: It is fumed silica. So I could see another manufacture selling something equal to it.

The polyester we normal use is the 435 laminate polyester resin. They make different types, so again get something similar to 435 poly and you'll be fine. JMHO!

 

[DeepBlue2010]

Don't forget you PPEs around all of this specially with this cabisol; you don't want to inhale this thing.


gm280 paragraphs dude. Pragraphs..... for the love of shelties

 

[gm280]

DeepBlue, what paragraphs, I did section them up into paragraphs... :noidea:

 

[tallcanadian]

Yes they do have cabosil/silica and now and again they bring in cloth fibers as well. Or you can shred your own cloth for the fibers. But that is a pain in the butt. It's good to see your getting supplies. Don't forget rubber gloves , stir sticks, measuring containers and a good mask.

 

[BackyardKrazy]

I checked on the Burnside Fiberglass website, and they sell this its called Structural putty, and it look like pretty much exactly what you guys call PB.

Ill price it monday, might be just as easy to buy it.

 

[gm280]

BYK, That putty sound usable. What is the cost? If you already have the polyester and can make or buy the cut fiberglass, then the Cabisol is the only item you'd need. And it isn't very expensive as well and then you can adjust the mixture you want. But it is all up to you. If you have a typical paper cutter with the large knife handle, you could even cut your own fiberglass fibers from whatever. The reason we buy it already cut is for total convenience and consistency, oh and the cost. It is really cheap!

Keep posting and asking questions. We've all been in your same position before!

 

[Woodonglass]

I agree^^^. I think you'll find that It's much cheaper to make your own and with the quantities that you'll be using and the different consistencies you'll be needing it's just not practical to buy the "Ready Mixed" stuff. If you just need a little bit to do some spot repairs then it's the way to go, but when you have a major restoration project ahead of you, it's just much more practical to make your own.

 

[tallcanadian]

What they said ^

 

[BackyardKrazy]

TC, Ive been meaning to ask you where you bought your rub rial/ The one I removed from the boat was aluminum with a plastic/rubber insert. its 35 years old, and its been out before. I could use it again, but i'm thinking Id rather go with just a solid black rubber one.

I know I'm nowhere near that yet, but its one of the things that I found hard to locate locally. Have you ever bought anything from stright-mackay?

 

[tallcanadian]

TC, Ive been meaning to ask you where you bought your rub rial/ The one I removed from the boat was aluminum with a plastic/rubber insert. its 35 years old, and its been out before. I could use it again, but i'm thinking Id rather go with just a solid black rubber one.

I know I'm nowhere near that yet, but its one of the things that I found hard to locate locally. Have you ever bought anything from stright-mackay?

I think that's where it came from. You can get Burnside to order one on. I will check later to see which one it was. It fit perfectly