1973 starcraft ss restore in progress

[crankbait cowboy]

Re: 1973 starcraft ss restore in progress

so the guy wants 400.00 for 17ft silverliner trailer and motor. i could probably get my 400 back out of the trailer and boat, upgrade my t/t and still be into it for under a grand. really on fence here. tilt trim it has may be good enough. watermann, the cnc has what over the stock tnt? thanks

 

[dozerII]

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so the guy wants 400.00 for 17ft silverliner trailer and motor. i could probably get my 400 back out of the trailer and boat, upgrade my t/t and still be into it for under a grand. really on fence here. tilt trim it has may be good enough. watermann, the cnc has what over the stock tnt? thanks

If the motor has good compression , runs good, and the TnT works, you can sell the boat and trailer, then it's still a good deal. If the TNt give you trouble in the future then you can look into a CNC unit.

 

[crankbait cowboy]

Re: 1973 starcraft ss restore in progress

well right or wrong , i bought it. 1977 donor calcutta 17 ft boat and trailer with the 1977 johnson v4 motor. have not even seen it yet, but had a buddy pick it up and i gave 300.00 bucks for it. guy said motor ran good and good compression. we will have to wait and see. thinking wether the motor works out or not i should be able to recoup my 300 bucks at the least. if it does work out , could probably be a real good deal for my power needs at real fine price. so a bit of a gamble but should not lose my butt on the investment. will get it home over thanksgiving and post some pics for you all. thanks for all the input you have all provided, and gonna be in slow down mode for awhile due to winter hitting here. will be back from time to time looking for more input and to keep ya all abreast of progress.

 

[Watermann]

Re: 1973 starcraft ss restore in progress

Donor boats are the way to go, especially at that price. I hear ya on the impeding winter weather. I will be sitting tight working in the garage a little until the weather breaks.

 

[dozerII]

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Nice, can't go wrong at $300. It sure is good that there are a lot of people don't look after there old glass boats, so us Tinnies have a cheap source of parts.

 

[crankbait cowboy]

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here are a few pics of the donor. needs a floor and stringers, but otherwise not bad shape and trailer looks good

 

[crankbait cowboy]

Re: 1973 starcraft ss restore in progress

and one of the stand and engine, the stand i followed the directions from the sticky at top of restore threads. made 6 inches wider and 4 inches higher. turned out real well.

 

[jbcurt00]

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Looks like a good score on the motor, and the boat/trailer shouldn't be too difficult to get rid of, 1 way or the other..............

 

[crankbait cowboy]

Re: 1973 starcraft ss restore in progress

yeah, i think it may be alright. the guy told me it had tilt / trim , and it does not ( i had a buddy pick it up ) so that is a bit of a downer. plan to see if i can get it running, before pursuing tnt ( possibly cnc outfit ) if it runs and compression is good. then i need exhaust cowling and would go thru lower unit. but 1st things 1st. dont want to spend any more on it to find out it doesn't perform as needed. i should be able to get my money out of the boat and trailer , even if i carve the boat up as scrape, or make a flower garden like dozer did. trailer looks like it is worth something.

 

[dozerII]

Re: 1973 starcraft ss restore in progress

yeah, i think it may be alright. the guy told me it had tilt / trim , and it does not ( i had a buddy pick it up ) so that is a bit of a downer. plan to see if i can get it running, before pursuing tnt ( possibly cnc outfit ) if it runs and compression is good. then i need exhaust cowling and would go thru lower unit. but 1st things 1st. dont want to spend any more on it to find out it doesn't perform as needed. i should be able to get my money out of the boat and trailer , even if i carve the boat up as scrape, or make a flower garden like dozer did. trailer looks like it is worth something.

Nice score CC, that is identical to my flower bed boat, Silverline, except mine was green

 

[Watermann]

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Looking a bit like winter there. :smow:

Bummer on the tnt, was it missing like the PO sold it off separate? Can't imagine that heavy motor not having one.

 

[crankbait cowboy]

Re: 1973 starcraft ss restore in progress

dozer - yeah looks familar, may do the same with the flowers
waterman - honestly it looks as if there was never a power tnt on it, and it is not to bad to lift for tilt, so my guess is it is factory?
got it on the stand last night, and tried turning it over. after hooking up battery i had nothing at key, so with a pliers i jumped from solenoid to starter, and it cranked over ( just did for 3 seconds ) so after further inspection i found the inline 20 amp fuse for key switch and it was fried. so i replaced it and it cranks over from the key. so good news is it aint froze up and cranks over. really should put in h2o and get fuel in bottle to squirt in carbs, but guessing that will be a march or april project as it is 20 below farenhiet here today and snow storm, with plenty of snow and high winds. anybody got any ideas on tilt/trim let me know.

 

[jbcurt00]

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I think there's a T&T unit on evil-bay currently. Not sure what model it's from, what else it will fit, or where it's located...........

 

[jvanhees]

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good score on the motor/donor for that price. Too bad it doesnt have tnt. You should be able to get that badboy runnin.

 

[jvanhees]

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From what I've seen the only reason the gluvit epoxy fails to seal is because the surface was not cleaned of all residue, old sealer or dirt. It took me days to make sure everything the gluvit went on was wheeled then wiped clean. Is the locktight you talking about a silicone sealant?

I had a real chore with my keel, it was ate up, cracked, dented, corroded and filled with an entire mega tube of silicone. After days of clean up, I layed in some marine tex first to fill in the gap and once it was hard, applied gluvit over the top since it's so watery it wouldn't have sealed gap between the bow plates and the keel plate.

It didn't leak a drop but if it had, I would have redone the gluvit job where the leak sprung up. Grinding off the gluvit, wire wheeled it again, wiped it down with cleaner and then re-applied the gluvit.

Mine was the same way...as you know Water.

may be onto something there watermann, not sure if it shows in the pic but there is an area where two ribs come together up in that area that a person cannot get to without removing a couple of ribs. one running from port and one from starboard and meeting in middle of bow area. has any one on here laid a bead of 5200 down the keel guard on both sides from the outside before. i know i saw it on here but cannot remember which post or if it worked out for them. my thought was gluvit, then loctite 4000 over that in this problem area inside of bow, with the idea of a bead of 5200 on the outside of boat down the keel guard. i was thinking this would remedy my seapage. no real way to tell if this is a fine fix or not , but to do it and test again. right or wrong i have done the gluvit and laid the loctite over it already. so suppose i might as well lay the bead of 5200 on outside and do another test. if no good, i should start over on inside removing those ribs and my 2 tubes of loctite,clean up good and re apply more gluvit. the real question i guess is has anyone laid a bead on outside of hull along keel guard and how did it work out for them.this boat has a bead of something ( in poor shape ) along keel gaurd but not sure if it is factory or not.. thanks for any help or ideas

I would recommend the marine tex where you are talking of running a 5200 bead. I didnt want to use it at first in a spot where I needed a weld...but glad I did after much reassurance from Watermann.

http://forums.iboats.com/boat-resto...ject-70s-sea-nymph-ss160-1668-a-599194-2.html
If you look at post #36 you can see where I applied it. That whole seal was leaky as well like yours is. Earlier in the thread you can see where mine leaked all over. Replacing rivets, and marine tex fixed the majority. I "marine texted" (actual word??) a hole, and it is rock solid. You can sand it down smooth after as well. Food for thought.

 

[crankbait cowboy]

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jvan and h20 -thanks on the marine tex. does that stuff paint well? i will consider it along with a product called G - flex epoxy. i have seen advertised. should be a bit flexible. you can google it now i got a real dumb question for you guys. is it harmful to crank my engine over dry ( with no fuel ) i need to compression test and spark test it, and i could in the next few days but got no fuel hooked up. i know this sounds dumb to some of you, but i really do not know if no fluid in cylinders is a bad thing on the cylinder walls. any thoughts or advice would be appreciated, and yeah i am a bit embarrassed to ask, but you all have been great, so thought i would throw it out there. thanks

 

[Watermann]

Re: 1973 starcraft ss restore in progress

Cranking over the outboard dry won't hurt it, but starting it dry will. Just for piece of mind, you can add a bit of fogging oil inside the cylinders, you should anyway just to get an accurate reading on your compression tests.

The Gflex is a runny clear epoxy made to seal up leaky rivets and seams. Marine tex is for dents, corrosion pitting and smaller open hole filling. I painted over marine tex with primers and top side paint with no problem. Except that I'm a lousy body and fender man.

 

[crankbait cowboy]

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thanks h20, to get the fogging oil in cylinders would i spray in the carbs as normal or spray some in spark plug hole. i will not start engine ( no fuel ) but be cranking it over for spark and compression tests.

 

[Watermann]

Re: 1973 starcraft ss restore in progress

Your could fog either way but if you shoot some oil in the carb throats while cranking it then you know the bearings are going to be getting some juice too.

 

[crankbait cowboy]

Re: 1973 starcraft ss restore in progress

real good ,thanks