1973 Starcraft Nova 15' rebuild

Gibbles

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The more I stare at it the better sense it makes, picture almos looked like the piece was sitting on its side like a C for a minute, causing me much confusion on how the heck it mounted. :redface:

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If I decide to go for paint, what type should I use?
I looked at some marine paint, and wow... $$

I have heard others talk about a tractor epoxy paint, but I cannot find anything on it?
 

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Thanks!

And would there be any issues using an automotive paint with etching primer (more color options).
 

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no problem. a good car resto guy will do the first coat of primer in self-etching anyway.
 

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no problem. a good car resto guy will do the first coat of primer in self-etching anyway.

Ya might ought to check through the forum w/ a search function. If you'll primarily be trailering the boat everyday or only leaving it in the water over a weekend, I think some have used automotive paint. Or just above the rubrail, where it wouldn't be constantly getting wet. I couldn't find it but it is here somewhere, about water permeablity when submerged for periods of time... Pretty much mitigated by only trailering it.....

Of course there are several people, Jas being most recent 1 I've read, that used rustoleum w/ the added hardener from Tractor Supply, and others who don't (didn't) think it's a good idea either. And that was hull & topsides of an AL boat.....

For another thought, please see post #4 here.

But there are several different stages of urethane that may give you great results too, esp if you can apply it yourself. Then you'll be absolutely sure the manufacturers directions for prep, wipe-down, primers & application are done correctly. I'd suspect some failures are a result of under prep or skipping steps, by both DIY & pro shops. I don't follow too many AL boat threads so except for Jas, I haven't read much about painting them.....
 

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I did use the hardener when I sprayed my trailer. I don't think it was anything special. It seemed to work just about the same as Rusto Pro I guess. Other fellas may have had better experience than I though.
 

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If I were to paint one again, I'd go the Valspar + hardener route from Tractor Supply.
 

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The 87 SS I'm working on right now is going to get Rusto Pro and Valspar hardner thinned with acetone, I like the way is goes on with an HVLP gun and the way it drys real tough.
Glen
 

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Sounds good, I'll have to find a source for it other than tractor supply, their website says in store only, and the nearest one is in MT...
 

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As I'm getting closer to getting the jet out of the garage and starting work on the nova.

Got this from another thread for rivets, saving here for later.. :)
http://www.mcmaster.com/#
 

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well today I went through the engine a little, I connected a compression tester after spraying each cyl with seafoam deep creep

Using a rope I gave it a good pull with all of the sparkplugs out, and one in a cyl...

hard to pull, and was not able to get a full compression test, but it felt very even.

Moved the crank back and forthand did not see anything odd like a bad rod bearing...

I dropped the lower oil, clean and no signs of water.

The prop seal also looks good, and recently replaced.

Lower moves freely and smooth, and seems to shift well

The electrical is all rotten... and it looks like someone who did not know what they were doing tried to fix it with house hold solid core wire...

I will have to re wire the whole thing from the looks of it :facepalm:

dist cap and rotor look decent though, and it looks like they are even more rare than my 3cyl set :(
 

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I was finally able to sneak away from the kitchen to get a little work done on the nova.

My FIL is coming over tomorrow to help me hang some drywall on the ceiling and I'm hoping to get a little help lifting the engine off.

First off the splashwell is freaking huge!
It was impossible to get the engine bolts off by my self (lower) so I got a little help on monday..

The bolts for the engine are domed, and spun.. no way to hold them in place, so I had to take a grinder and give it a flat spot to hold it

today I finally got it free, and the bolts off for the tilt ram...
DSCF0195.jpg


I think the bolts have been in there for some time...
 

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I also tried to get the tilt pump off, but I could not get to the bolts very well due to the splashwell, so I finally decided to pull it out

it was a pain in the butt, and I ended up removing a rub rail channel so I could spit it apart and get it out of there.

I also did it in the dark while drooling all over my flashlight (holding in mouth)

I'll get pictures of it tomorrow (splashwell not the flashlight)

I think removing the spashwell will make everything much eaiser in the long run... hopefully :)
 

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Gib - SC must have had a plan with those splashwells. I just wish they would let the world in on the secret. My 16 footer SW is almost 2 feet deep. I could put a 100 gal. gas tank and 16 batteries in there and still have room for a trim pump and a lunch box. LOL

Warning - swallowing a flashlight may be hazardous to you health.

Judging by the rust on that bolt it didn't have must life left. And the transom isn't going to look good when you pull it out. My harness was a pig too. Insulation was brittle an cracking off. I managed to put a temporary fix on it. It's holding together so far.
 

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Gibbles, Howdy from Texas. Good luck with your engine and transom. :)
 

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I think removing the spashwell will make everything much eaiser in the long run... hopefully :)

Agreed. Taking it off adds work to the job but it also helps speed things along in other areas.

And hey, so long as it's off you could always consider a splashwellsectimy:)

(huh, that word got a spelling red underline - imagine that)
 

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Kinda frustrating when a little progress takes a lot of effort, but at least you got the bolts out, and that must feel good! Those bolts look pretty rusty, how's your transom look there? Much corrosion?
 

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Gib - SC must have had a plan with those splashwells. I just wish they would let the world in on the secret. My 16 footer SW is almost 2 feet deep. I could put a 100 gal. gas tank and 16 batteries in there and still have room for a trim pump and a lunch box. LOL

Warning - swallowing a flashlight may be hazardous to you health.

Judging by the rust on that bolt it didn't have must life left. And the transom isn't going to look good when you pull it out. My harness was a pig too. Insulation was brittle an cracking off. I managed to put a temporary fix on it. It's holding together so far.

I might be able hide under that splashwell with a battery and fuel tank, and still have room to read a book.

I dunno what kinda plastic surefire uses, but its tasty :) (g2 led)

The bolts were pretty bad, I actually thought the transom was not that bad looking mostly, but it's clear the bolts have been leaking.

I have resorted to just cutting and ripping out wires (for anything not trim pump).

Gibbles, Howdy from Texas. Good luck with your engine and transom. :)

Thank you :)

Agreed. Taking it off adds work to the job but it also helps speed things along in other areas.

And hey, so long as it's off you could always consider a splashwellsectimy:)

(huh, that word got a spelling red underline - imagine that)


Now that it's off I can see all of the transom bolts pretty clearly, it's going to make this much eaiser

This was orig suggested to me by InMotion; and he has been a huge help, taking measurements and detailed pictures of his Jupiter (nova and jupiter seem to be very close).

One of my hobbies is to make newer and better words also! :D

I like the extra space now that the splashwell is gone, but I see a good use for the splashwell, I just think it could of been much shorter.

Kinda frustrating when a little progress takes a lot of effort, but at least you got the bolts out, and that must feel good! Those bolts look pretty rusty, how's your transom look there? Much corrosion?

Yeah I was not happy about how much I had to take apart to get the splashwell out (I will get pictures once the sun rises).

and the trim pump was blocking one of the screws holding the lower part on the transom.. I ended up breaking the screw holder/guide off of my handy dewalt quick change bit in order to get through a small space from the pump body and what looks like a solenoide.

It also looks like someone sat or stepped on the splash well and split it a little, so when it goes back together I will look into making it a bit stronger...

So far I have not seen any real corrosion on anything but the steel bolts, and it also appears that this boat has been in utah its whole life, we only have salt on the roads :D

but I have not pulled the transom or engine yet...
 

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Another thing I have been thinking about, instead of using a product like sharkhide maybe I could just paint the boat an aluminium color like i have seen some of the newer tin boats...

not sure, but there is a boat show I want to look around at and get some idea's on what I want...

I also have some of the deaper dents and scratches, I'm sure I can get many of them out, but it may require some filler to bring it back.

thinking about the gouge on the side, and the smashed rub rail at the front...
side I'm leaning away from any sort of filler, but the rub rail area would be perfect for it.
 
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