1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

[InMotion]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Thanks guys...

Guys, I tried to paint the motor tonight and had a weird problem... I thinned the tremclad with 25% acetone while spraying it, the paint curde badly. Clogged the sprayer up, splattered chunks all over the motor and intermittently sprayed too much paint. So, the paint job is ummmm ruined I think is the choice word here,

Why did this happen, and how do I prevent it?

Note... I tried spraying it without thinning it and no go. I also wiped as much as I could off the motor with some success. I think I a going to have to sand it down and re-prime and then spray.

I was pretty bummed...

On a more positive note, the rollers are off the trailer, step pads are in, bunks are in and the trailer is primed. So some good news and progress there.

Jim

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Guys, I tried to paint the motor tonight and had a weird problem... I thinned the tremclad with 25% acetone while spraying it, the paint curde badly. Clogged the sprayer up, splattered chunks all over the motor and intermittently sprayed too much paint. So, the paint job is ummmm ruined I think is the choice word here,

Why did this happen, and how do I prevent it?

Note... I tried spraying it without thinning it and no go. I also wiped as much as I could off the motor with some success. I think I a going to have to sand it down and re-prime and then spray.

I was pretty bummed...

I just had the same problem w/ a different media & using acetone to thin, but Tremclad & acetone in a google search yielded this from another site:

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Yup, will keep you posted, but I may not tackle it till next summer, way too much to do, like build a cab for the F-350s eventual replacement, a John Deere 2305 compact tractor....

I do paint the frame on the F-350 every couple of years with tremclad, and it works quite well, just haven't taken the time to sandblast the whole thing. I use a needle scaler to get it down as best as I can, and paint it. Plan is to eventually strip it down to the frame and do a better job, and I do have a 5 gal pot blaster, but got to get a better setup to remove water from the airline. Actually, I have a dessicant filter to add in, just haven't had the time to plumb it.

Not really concerned on a good quality paint job, after all it's a plowtruck and gets lots of abuse, so don't want to be putting a $1000 paint job on it. Hence the Tremclad...

BTW, Tremclad used to recommend Acetone for thinning, but I think they now recommend mineral spirits, but you're not the first one I've heard that uses gasoline.
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Originally Posted by HOOPER65
This was not too serious stuff around the fenders - dremel drum sanded,
painted ( brush ) thick primer and brush painted black as described.
For that, it worked just fine, ... as fine or better than touch-up tubes.
For a larger area, such as spraying panels etc., I really don't profess to have too much experience using Tremclad, but for down low touch-up stuff, in the wheel well areas ... it seems like a good way to go
( assuming the colour is a match ) -
If you try it, I'd be very interested to see the results ... I suspect the gas trick acts as a solvent that evaporates quickly, speeding up the dry time and keeping some shine in the process - seemed that way for me.

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

I was spraying 2 part aliphatic resin and upto 30% MEK or acetone were recommended as thinners. MEK at about 15% worked great, acetone in varying ratios didn't do well at all, either in how it sprayed or how it laid down.

You may just need to try a couple different thinners or reducers to find 1 that works for your gun/compressor setup & the environmental variables when/where you're shooting the paint. It was hot, humid, sunny & windy while I was spraying. The MEK let the resin laydown really nice.

I am not an expert by any means, friday afternoon was only the 2nd time I'd ever used an HVLP gun. The 1st was Thurs:facepalm:.

 

[dozerII]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Hey Jim, I had the same problem with Tremclad, why I don't know, I think they recomend mineral sprirts for thinning. My problem with Tremclad is the dry time is way to long and half the bugs within a square mile find it, and want to check out my paint job.
Glen

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

I was spraying 2 part aliphatic resin and upto 30% MEK or acetone were recommended as thinners. MEK at about 15% worked great, acetone in varying ratios didn't do well at all, either in how it sprayed or how it laid down.

You may just need to try a couple different thinners or reducers to find 1 that works for your gun/compressor setup & the environmental variables when/where you're shooting the paint. It was hot, humid, sunny & windy while I was spraying. The MEK let the resin laydown really nice.

I am not an expert by any means, friday afternoon was only the 2nd time I'd ever used an HVLP gun. The 1st was Thurs:facepalm:.

Thanks JB. I am going to try it tonight!

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Hey Jim, I had the same problem with Tremclad, why I don't know, I think they recomend mineral sprirts for thinning. My problem with Tremclad is the dry time is way to long and half the bugs within a square mile find it, and want to check out my paint job.
Glen

Thanks Glen... wierdest thing... it dried super fast to the touch... I barely had time to clean off the splatted mess!

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

El Almost-Splasho - It's that Murphy guy messing with your paint. Seems like the closer you get the more road blocks he throws at you. I can only commiserate with you, you'll get it. Maybe practice on the trailer?

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

El Almost-Splasho - It's that Murphy guy messing with your paint. Seems like the closer you get the more road blocks he throws at you. I can only commiserate with you, you'll get it. Maybe practice on the trailer?

Thanks man!

Tonight is the night! It'll work! Yah.. I was working on the motor at that point because it was spitting rain... so paint, rain... not a great match.

It'll go!! Third time lucky?!!! One way or another. Real close now. Real close!

J.

 

[barato2]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

i use xylene a lot because it's slower evaporating than toluene or acetone.

you've obviously got murphy on the run and he's gettin desperate, so he's throwing the weird problems at you now.

good job keepin on keepin on!

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Alrighty then... I tried every way to Sunday to try to spray tremclad... including 50% mineral spirits... and the best I could get was a trickle. So, round 4 tonight with the original rust paint I used on the bow of the boat thinned with acetone. I am going to pick it up on the way home tonight and try to get the trailer sprayed once and for all!!! The motor will be maybe tomorrow am if the neighbors can stand the compressor running at 6:00 am. Well now I know... had none of these troubles when spraying the boat....

Also, I am now going to be doing the fixing of our lower level from the flood damage --- so that takes top priority so that we can put our house back together...Murphy is saying... launch the boat when I decide... and I'm saying... nah, not good enough... mid summer is too late... it needs to be next week. Murphy is eating up a lot of time now and for the next week+... gonna get challenging!!!

Time to push...

 

[lakelover]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Time to push...

Keep pushing!!! I had hoped for an August splash and it wasn't 'til November! Definitely very frustrating. Make it happen, you'll be glad you did!

 

[MichaelP]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

House work is for when the weather is too crappy to work on the boat. Go Go Go.

 

[BonairII]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

House work is for when the weather is too crappy to work on the boat. Go Go Go.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yaaaaaaa... I agree... but the Admiral, the kids and myself are getting tired of sleeping on the floor in the living room and family room!!!

Sooo... plan is this:

Tonight - Attempt #something to paint the trailer and motor. If I can just get the sprayer/paint to work, then I can get the boat on the trailer and the motor on the boat! It's just that simple!!

Thursday, Friday, Sat Aft will be all house (trim painting, vapor barrier, drywall, trim, rug stretching etc) to get it to a stage where on Sunday we can move everything back in place.

That leaves... Thurs Eve, Sat Morn, Sat Eve and Sun eve to get the boat on the trailer, motor on the boat and controls installed. Should be plenty of time really.

So.... what could possibly go wrong????

 

[FishNmemories]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Jim, I sympathize with ya

the house is definitely the priority bud. Sounds like you've got your hands full, but just concentrate on the family stuff 1st. Boat repairs, tweaks, and mods go on forever.
Sorry, can't help you with the painting issues have not got that far yet
Rusty

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Jim, I sympathize with ya

the house is definitely the priority bud. Sounds like you've got your hands full, but just concentrate on the family stuff 1st. Boat repairs, tweaks, and mods go on forever.
Sorry, can't help you with the painting issues have not got that far yet
Rusty

Thanks Rusty... crazy thing these floods! Insurance finally settled yesterday... and so I am good to go with getting the fixing part started. I just have to choose a contractor --- which can be anyone including myself! So, I chose myself!! It's a job --- but not too unmanageble. Timing --- not so great! But such is life! Whatareyagonnado!!!!

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Taking time to work on the boat is a little tough when the family is looking at you to get the house back to normal. On the bright side since you can be the contractor and the insurance pays for the labor, I see some extra cash for boat goodies. Unless the Admiral has other plans. :facepalm:

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

On the bright side since you can be the contractor and the insurance pays for the labor, I see some extra cash for boat goodies.

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

I had a little chat with Murphy this aft. We agreed that he would only strike once this evening... and he did. It rained ONLY in the town I live! Thus... no painting of the trailer.

BUT!!!! The motor was fair game!

So game on... Loaded the weapon of choice... and voila... it's finally painted!!!

Also snapped some shots of the carpeted bunks...

I also tested the electrical in the boat!!! OOops... ya... I had forgotten to test it eon's ago. So... good news is the lights work! Well actually, the front light had a burnt out bulb... but they now work!

The bildge works. But the switch to turn it off, does not. It is an automatic type... but I figured it should have a switch to turn it off as I have run the 3rd wire up to a switch on the dash. Gonna google it tomorrow...

So, plan is to paint the trailer Friday morning early as the weather looks good then... if it holds Thursday morning, I'll do it then.

Else, it is full bore operation "house restoration" Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Wish me well fellas!!!

Have a great evening!!

Jim

 

[dozerII]

Re: 1968 Starcraft Jupiter - Rebuild

Good to see you and Murphy came to an understanding, he is usually tougher to deal with than that. The paint looks good. Your bildge pump shouls have a ground, one wire for the automatic side that goes to the + side battery via a fuse and a wire to a powered switch on the dash, can't remember the colors though. Good luck on the renos, it is nice to have total control over the quality of the work when you do it your self.
Glen