$1800 nightmare

[halfmoa]

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did you mix 2 stroke oil with your gas?

I'd like to know also, could be a deciding factor very quickly.

 

[rickryder]

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Can the bulkhead be rotten in a fiberglass boat? I know about the stringers and transom but had no idea about the bulkheads..

When I say bulkheads they are under the deck between the stringers...they are wood wrapped in glass just like everything else...

On the subject of another material for the deck....good old ext plywood covered in glass properly and maintained will out live you and me

 

[rrt2b2010]

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I used Penzoil Marine premium 2 cycle oil. mixed 50:1 in a mixing bottle that had the conversion on the bottle

 

[halfmoa]

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I used Penzoil Marine premium 2 cycle oil. mixed 50:1 in a mixing bottle that had the conversion on the bottle

Good, check one possibility off the list!

 

[rrt2b2010]

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Here are a few pics.. I did not take a lot of pics yet.. I will take more detailed pics when I get the boat back from the mechanic.

 

[spoilsofwar]

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Did you get the trailer included for the $1800 selling price? It looks pretty nice; not $1800 nice but still nice.

If it were me, based on the condition of that boat, I'd strip everything off it and chuck the hull. If the motor is beyond reasonable repair, strip it too and then sell all the parts. You wont break even, but you'll probably do better then you'd think. Then chalk the whole thing up as a learning experience and buy a different boat you can use this season.

 

[fat fanny]

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It's all in how you look at it not now but in a few days after the depression has died off a little. 1st off no motor no boat get that sqared away and then asses the boat you will be looking at least! the cost of the rig to just redue everything but when your done it will last longer than your intrest in it. and who knows you may get lucky with the motor and the deck and so on could end up not that bad off ( nut doubtfull) just remember boating is a blast and addictive but when they need something it isn't always easy. Good luck and keep us updated.

 

[Mikeyboy]

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I think before you make any decisions you need to find out exactly what your in for with the engine. That will give you a better idea if it's worth your while to tear into it or cut your losses.

 

[rrt2b2010]

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My mechanic advised me not to purchase a 1970's johnson outboard 85hp motor for $500 with controls because he is worried that my gauges might not work and the motor may not fit the boat.. but the motor is a short shaft like the force that is on it.. the only gauges I have on the 1989 maxum is a tach, speed, and fuel gauge. What do you think? $500 for a 85 hp johnson with great compression. that I am having verified by a mobile boat mechanic.. What are your thoughts? If I pass on this motor how likely will I find another local buy like this? http://louisville.craigslist.org/boa/2961391401.html Only thing I believe I will need is a new tilt trim motor.. because the one on the boat is for a force.. he has the controls, and steering components...

 

[rrt2b2010]

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Yes the trailer was included in the price... I did consider parting it out... But the interior is cooked... I guess I could sell the windshield, swim platform, control cables.. etc... after I have my mechanic assess the condition of the motor...

 

[rrt2b2010]

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Not sure I can come up with enough money to buy something decent for this season.. $1800 set me back

 

[rockyrude]

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I can't speak to the price because I don't know your area, but like I said in another thread the compression numbers are very good. That year motor did not come with power tilt/trim. An aftermarket tilt/trim unit is way more than you want to spend on this setup. You can get the performance you need with a little practice with the manual tilt pin that comes on that motor. The only gauge that counts is the tach, you can find the adapter you need here on iboats.

 

[rrt2b2010]

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So no compression doesnt always mean $$$$ to repair? I could get lucky and it may only cost a few hundred maybe less than $300

 

[rrt2b2010]

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ok.. so I can tilt the motor manually.. Possibly sell the tilt and trim unit and make a few $$ in the process and have a boat for the season... how difficult is it to run the controls?

 

[coolbri70]

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if you could find the same motor but one with a good engine but broken lower, would be the quickest cheapest way back to the water unless you get lucky and can get away with reringing

 

[Home Cookin']

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you don't need a speedometer and the fuel guage is independent of the controls. You don't need a tach as long as you know by ear not to over-rev the engine--the correct prop will take care of that. I've run plenty of old boats for years with none of that stuff either installed or working.

 

[rrt2b2010]

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the day the motor died.. the motor would idle fine but it would die when I tried to put it in reverse.. then I found myself having to apply more choke to start the motor.. the motor would hardly idle when engaged. then about 1/2 hour later the motor quit running... any ideas?

 

[rickryder]

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Didn't your friend do a compression test to it? said it had none? I can't say why it failed but I think it will have to come apart to see what went wrong... no compression = bad rings, blown head gasket between cylds to start with....

 

[ajgraz]

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^^^rickryder posted while I was typing...

Go get a compression tester and test compression yourself. You might be getting jerked around.

What you described in post #37 above could be due to any number of things, including: dirty carbs, bad spark from a stator issue that only happens when it heats up, etc. etc. etc.

 

[Bob_VT]

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No.. I didnt change the impeller or water pump because the guy took the boat out the weekend before I bought it.. I guess the pump and/or impeller failed between then and the week I bought it..

Are you sure it was run the week before? Did you water test it before you made the purchase for at least 30 minutes?

Okay, here is the basic rule of thumb....... overheating happens. When it happens and how much damage is done is usually the fault of the owner....... It could be a real simple fix to be back on the water. It was stated earlier ...... impellar, headgaskets, I also like to toss in new plugs, do a de-carbonization procedure and get back on the water.

You should NOT be considering a new motor yet...... you should not be considering scrapping the boat either. I am very fond of the Johnson Evinrude V-4 motor however....... not fond enough to trash the current motor w/o proper investigation and repairs.

Get a manual <<<<< I really can not stress enough how important the manual is. I don't care who your mechanic is or what knowledge he/she has...... GET A MANUAL!!!!!

Many many many (thousands perhaps) pf people here have invested in Manuals, compression gauges, torque wrenches and assorted other tools and do all the work themselves and were absolute neophytes before they started.

Take a deep breath and do it!