180 SS New to the Forums.

[ezmobee]

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Those seats look pretty cool. Spend the money for better pedestals though than those sheet metal ones. There are some great deals on www.greatlakesskipper.com

 

[DirtyHarry83]

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Welcome to the madness DH, boy does this look familiar, just finished the same job a week ago, but yours looks a whole lot drier than mine. The interior in your 18 is an twin to the 16 Naked lady before she was redone. How are you going to deal with the aluminum side panels that screw down over the floor? The ones with the cup holder and ash tray in them.
glen

I plan on keeping them as they are riveted to the hull. I am not sure I'll need the ash trays in my boat though...
I figure I can shove a few noodles behind them for flotation. I am not sure on my cup holder lay out yet but I did save the inserts that came with the boat so if I decide to use them again I can but I am thinking I'll go Ezmobee's way with the rear casting deck design and have the cup holders installed there.

I am going to clean as much glue off as I can with the pressure washer, and then apply new navy or darker blue out door carpet (Home Depot or Lowes can fight for my business.). The use of the carpet mostly as a sound dampener and also as a way to keep anyone from being shocked from sun heated aluminum. Carpet tends to dissipate heat a lot better and feels softer against any knees or legs that hits the surface.

I want to leave that space as open as possible for rods. I rarely leave rods rigged now because I use the quick line loops to manage most of my tackle so I won't need to worry about hooking carpet. (Plus I've thought of other solutions to fight hooking carpet in case that happens. Namely an acrylic scrap plate roughly where most individuals leave rods rigged (about where the bottom and largest guide is or at the reel.).

I am going to put the vinyl flooring down on the deck first tucking it under those side panels, and then I plan on mounting the side panels to the floor with rivets and not screws. I find that over time screws loosen but rivets if done properly don't move... hell my old deck as bad as shape as it was had some really stubborn rivets.


Ezmobee Thanks for the link to that site. I'll check out their seat hardware.
As for the reason I was going cheap on the posts. I plan on making the seat mounts there to be easily removed with bolts. Possibly a carriage bolt setup with a way that prevents that bolt from ever sliding out or begin spinning. Thinking a square shape cut into a small piece of staneless or aluminum to lock the carriage bolt plus an added wood backing to prevent it from dropping into the hull or slipping in the square cut metal. I'll take pics to show you what I mean when the time comes. The reason I want it this way is so I can just swap out posts easier. Even if I buy a cheap posts I can then buy a nicer one later and swap easier. It would also make it easier to pull the seats in winter and store them inside to prevent damage. I do plan to cover my boat but I like to make things last as long as possible.

My investor (Dad) and I tend to over engineer our projects so the carriage bolt idea may not go through that way because he may come up with something better but so far in my head at least the idea sounds pretty good. haha

 

[DirtyHarry83]

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Yah, we should have somebody actually tie some weight to a noodle and throw it pool just for fun eh?

I'm nearly certain their claims of 100# or 200# are related to a 100# kid or a 200# dood, knowhattamean While I am as dumb as a rock my 180# frame still has a little buoyancy

I am tempted to try it with my 8lb mushroom anchor. I'll try to see what happens and post my results.

 

[DirtyHarry83]

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Here the boat is now, she has a bit of cleaning done but still needs some more. To me though she looks pretty good.
Obviously I didn't get that side wall carpet off yet...:facepalm:

As I looked through this thread I noticed I didn't post any pics of the hull... Sorry.

Bow view.

The Trailer is a Tee Nee...

 

[CheapboatKev]

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Good progress..
Liked the flip flop sandals pic..
Remended me of when I did the deck in my Holiday..Why is my ankle bleeding?
Oh.....Stringer cut..ouch!

 

[barato2]

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did someone say stringer cut? smile for the camera:

you're making great progress. that is without a doubt the single nastiest part of resto you just finished. yeah, it gets more expensive but more fun too from here on out. your exterior paint looks really good.


I know what you’re thinking: "Did he bring six contractor bags, or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I’ve kinda lost track myself. But being this is an Ames Razorback shovel, the most powerful foam removal tool in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you’ve got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well do ya, punk?

 

[DirtyHarry83]

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I liked that last bit there Barato2. That was good.

I am not the one wearing the flip flops... That would be my steel skinned friend. He's a mechanic and the guy feels no pain...

I cleaned the inside of the outboard this evening. Some mice made a lovely winter cottage there... Also they made cottages just about EVERYWHERE in that boat... :facepalm: *Deep breath* I may remove all the shrouds on the OB and give a good dose of engine cleaner to see how clean I can get her. It's decent now but as I like clean shiny areas, I want to get it as clean as possible.

Also the little cottage dwellers decided to chew 1 wire. I ordered the MFG Johnson/Evinrude repair manual for just this occasion. Ebay for 32 bucks.

 

[DirtyHarry83]

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your exterior paint looks really good.

Thanks, I think that she'll clean up nicely with a good polish and shine. Adding a nice coat of wax on top just to make her slippery on the water for that extra 1 or 2 mph.

 

[DirtyHarry83]

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Okay

Progress from Thursday and Today.
Thursday was mostly engine work. It was a unbelievable rats nest... The mice moved in below one of the cylinders.
It's nice and clear now but you'll notice that red wire near the bottom... yeah they chewed it's twin. What it does at this moment I do not know. In 3 days I'll know for sure when my book gets here.

Bit more zoomed out version

Guy that owned it before me went a little crazy with the protection... I am not a big fan of a goopy engine.

As you can see here this was also an area the mice frequented... The gnawed on wire insulation. Can't wait to fix their destruction.:facepalm:

More below in second posting. Ran out of space.

 

[DirtyHarry83]

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You may notice little chunks of yellow sound damping foam that is now all over the engine similar to a tar and feathering.
The foam is from the cowl... I may have to re sound dampen foam it... You'll also notice that there is some wiring issues here... Yeah that parts ordered and OTW.

Fun fun with outboards, scrubbing and wiping down. Labor of love.

 

[DirtyHarry83]

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Now for what was done this evening.

I cut the old gas lines that I'll be replacing and I unbolted the sending unit and the ground. It took me literally 5 minutes to remove the tank.
The support plywood yeah it was as supportive as bat to the back of the head. It disintegrated as I picked it up. The rubber straps looked decent. I am planning on using old garden hose as a possible support? Maybe a piece of plastic old cutting board. Something that won't rot or react to the aluminum tank.

Another shot of the tank. Oh and another side note. The remaining colony of ants lived under the tank. Yeah, some garden hose water took care of their living situation... well lack there of at this point.

In case anyone was wondering this is a 20 gallon tank. I figure it's a nice size. Good weight for the bow, and nice size for the premix of oil and gas.

Part 2 of the evening.
My bow plate was as stable as 3 legged table that had 4 legs. The three "boards" I called them organized saw dust were as dry rot as it comes. After evicting yet ANOTHER wasp nest (invasive jerks). I pulled the boards out by hand. I am not only doing this because I want to be meticulous about the rebuild, it really deals with I do not want to lose my classic Johnson trolling motor (found out its a 23lb thrust model. fancy that.)

I had to first drill the 4 rivets holding the bow tip plate and then negotiate that off the bow. Negotiations took some careful leverage and some elbow grease.

The aluminum tracking is held on by bolts. All but the two pinched in bow bolts came out easy. I had to drill out two bolts at the bow because the aluminum tracking had them gorilla gripped. The vinyl or rubber bumper pulls out and seems to just pop back in nicely.

The plywood here doesn't look bad, but I feel it rotting at the bottom. Going to unbolt it and pull it out. I plan on using this space again, but I'll add a HATCH door to prevent invasive paper wasps and other potential invaders.

Tomorrow begins more cleaning and maybe I'll have time to pull the engine and remove the transom.

 

[DirtyHarry83]

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The other reason I need to pull the tracking... Apparently the carpet that goes over the gunnels is tucked UNDER the tracking. :facepalm: Since I want it done right and now understand that SC did that for a REASON then I guess I'll do the same. I don't want the carpet popping up in a week because I was to short sighted.

 

[jasoutside]

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Looking good at the tear down, keep at it

 

[dozerII]

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Great Job DH, the more I look at the photos you 18 is the exact same design, and color as Naked lady only 2 ft longer. Before you take the plywood board out of the bow the one with the oblong cut out, you should brace the top across the gunwals, that board holds the shape in the bow, and talking from experience it is hard to get that back to origional if you let the side come in.
Glen

 

[DirtyHarry83]

Re: 180 SS New to the Forums.

Great Job DH, the more I look at the photos you 18 is the exact same design, and color as Naked lady only 2 ft longer. Before you take the plywood board out of the bow the one with the oblong cut out, you should brace the top across the gunwals, that board holds the shape in the bow, and talking from experience it is hard to get that back to origional if you let the side come in.
Glen

Thanks Glen I appreciate that information. I'll be sure to brace it as I do not want to mess with the way she'll cut the water.

 

[DirtyHarry83]

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Today was fun. I found something that makes me REALLY glad I pulled my deck. :facepalm: This may have been a large reason why my foam was wet!

Looks like a job for J-B weld? Any advice?
After I have the J-B weld, I'd wire brush both sides as clean as possible then apply both internally and externally. If anyone has advice beyond that I am all ears.

Trailer work like I mentioned.

This USED to be the front of the trailer where the coupler lived.

Now it looks a lot better.

I performed some engine cleaning today, but I still need to scrub some gunk off and I found out more about the wire the mice chewed. I plan to repair that tomorrow.

 

[Stephenatx]

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Harry, I was at the local fastenal store a couple of weeks ago and they had a brochure for a product I had never seen before. It was basically a liquid aluminum and could be used for repair or fabrication. I picked up the brochure, but gave it to my brother for future reference. If you want I can get the information from him and send it to you. I really don't know that much about repairing a crack like that but seems to me there would be flexing there and not sure how well jb would hold.

 

[jasoutside]

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So am I looking at a crack the length of the Jersey Shore there?? Wow! How about a shot of the inside?

 

[dozerII]

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Wow DH, that is not good, that is a structual crack. I had not noticed the lack of the tabs on the the end of your hull ribs to the bottom of the hull sides, as seen in this photo.

It is caused by the splash well flexing up and down like an accordian. It will have to be welded and then try to find a way to gusset it so it doesn't happen again. I thought one of the Starcraft guys on here had the same problem and came up with a fix for it.
Glen

 

[DirtyHarry83]

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So am I looking at a crack the length of the Jersey Shore there?? Wow! How about a shot of the inside?

I'll try and nab a picture on the inside today. It's tough to do with all the glue, and the location.