14' Larivee restore

sphelps

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Looks like ya got the PB thing worked out fine .. Hopefully the merc guy can get you going ok .
Looks like you got a new truck for Christmas ! Not a scratch or a smudge anywhere on the bed and tailgate .. :D
 

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MERRY CHRISTMAS to my iboats buddies Wood, Sam, & Gus!!! Hope your day was filled with joy, loving friends & family, delicious food, & hopefully, something exciting for the boat!! Wood-I'm still not 100% on this whole photobucket thing, but I'm tryin'...just takes me a while, but I'm sure it will get easier. Sam, Sam, Sam...boy you don't miss a thing. Yup, that was the bed of my new truck. Just turned 1,000 miles couple days ago. Got it last month. Can't believe I've gone 51 yrs & not owned a truck. Albeit, she's a mini, but sure do love it. Woke up this morning & made big breakfast for the kids. Then went out & washed n waxed her. Took one of my other boats down to the ramp(4 houses away) & started it. That's the one hooked up to my truck. Decided to start 500 grit, 1000 grit, to 2000 grit on the hull sides. She been the ugly duckling since I got her couple years ago. Got about 1/2 of one side done. This is the boat (17' Seaway) that I will be doing transom, deck, stringers next "winter". My current Larivee pushed her aside this year. Outside is ok & will suffice. Gonna leave that part alone when I start that restore. Until then, we'll grit & polish. I will see if I can get some pics of that only cause I know you boys are always about the pics! Gus..how 'bout our weather today? Pretty overcast up my way, but at least it wasn't snowin'. I'll get some trailer pics up tomorrow. Got to figure that out so I can flip & get busy sanding.
 

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Looks to me like you're doin just FINE on posing dem pics!!!!
 

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ok...so here are some trailer pics from a few days ago. because the v is so deep, we got longer brackets for front of bunks. that didn't help. we are now back to 8" brackets. We tried raising & lowering rollers & that didn't seem to help either. any suggestions? we are trying to ensure our keel doesn't strike the frame.[URL=http://s1028.photobucket.com/user/pottslisa1/media/20131221_172050_zpsed09f71c.jpg.html]
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almost forgo....while we had it in the water, we put my son's 15hp on it. still need to cut out couple inches of transom, but wante to do a quick splash for waterline location, transom cutout,& just cause I wanted to...
 

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Have you considered going with all bunks instead of rollers ? Are you using the tilt on the trailer ? Move the bunks closer to the middle maybe ?
 

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Well, we solved the trailer problem...as before stated, we returned the bunk brackets up front to 8", but more importantly, we moved them in toward center 8" or 9". That made the difference. Only hits middle roller for a couple of inches, then the bunks take over. Other future adjustments might change that further, but I can live with that. Another hiccup was brought to light though...the bow eye is too high. It does not allow the strap to go thru the bow stop correctly & therefore cranks downward on the eye, rather than more horizontal on the trailer. No biggie, though...I will glass in another piece of wood just below the other & fill in the 2 holes & fix that up cosmetically on the outside. Only you & I will know it was ever there. I just put the eye back where it had been originally, but think the change will do the boat good on the trailer. Plus, if...& that's a big if, I ever need to be towed in, the boat will not nose-dive in transit. Just a little delay on the flip..I know you are just as excited awaiting this event as I am, but just want to be sure I'm ready. In addition, my son put new springs on the 17' trailer for me today. I got another 3' or so of wet sanding done on that one too. Sure lookin' purty with that shine. I still owe you a picture of that, don't I? Tomorrow....
 

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I have/had several "tilt" trailers, Sam, & never used it that way. I think this will work. Only have rollers there in case I back in too far or not enough...would rather have a roller there than have the keel hit the crossframe of trailer. Usually able to just use the bunks on the other vessels. Just fix the front eye & we'll be ready to spin her. Did you get any cool stuff for Christmas....for the boat(s) that is?
 

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Glad you got the bunks figured out ! It took me a few modifications and adjustments to get mine where I liked it also .
Yep looks like your do for an eye lowering . No biggy ! :)
Santa did bring me a nice marine stereo ... :eyebrows:
 

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ah...you lucky rascal....I don't have stereos in 4 of the 5 boats. My son is going to put one in his rebuild from last year. My 2, the current Larivee rebuild & the Seaway don't have yet. In lieu of one on the 17' Seaway that I am still using (when I'm not sanding her dull housecoat or fixin' her trailer), I bought a portable speaker (Jam is the name brand). I can charge it & it lasts 4 hrs with my ipod. Only cost $40 at ****'s. Figured I'll use that until that restore is done & of course, then, install a grown-up stereo. Not sure if I will put a stereo in the Larivee. Haven't got that far yet. Well, guess over next couple days I'll lower that eye. Heading up to the trailer store tomorrow early & prolly the resin store on the way back. Guess tomorrow I'll be a few hundred dollars poorer!
 

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I didn't get as much done this week as I had hoped(don't you wish we had a buck every time we said that?), but still, baby progress steps. I glassed in another couple pieces of wood to accommodate new positioning of the bow eye as before noted was too high, to allow the trailer to function properly with this boat. I haven't drilled it out, but that should be easy enough. I'll just fill in the other holes. I was able to start sanding on the transom(outer) but have no pics. I'm also posting a couple of other pics. Will ask question on next post
 

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Ok, first of all...am I doing something wrong, because every time I use photobucket to post some pics, my computer will not allow me to type quickly? It takes me several tries to type a small word, as if my keyboard is sticky, but when I post pics, as I did on my previous post, then start a new reply, I can type my usual 60-70wpm. Any thoughts(wood-you always help me on the computer issues)? So, now that I can type at a quick pace, let me update you....bow eye-just need to drill out 2 new holes, fill the other ones, & reposition the front post/winch on the trailer & be done with that issue(I hope). I worked a bit on the transom(outer) this week. I'll have to look if I have any "original" pictures of when I first demoed the transom. I had to cut out about a 5" x 5" area that was cracked outer skin. When the transom went in, I used some raw engineering & a couple layers of 1708(to thicken that outer skin from the inside) before putting the actual wood in. As you would imagine, there was some high & low spots now protruding from that area on the outside. I fiddled with that this week, grinding, layering to bring up the low spots, feathering in some csm. I have it close, but a bit more to go. I will get pics to explain this. While I was back there, I began sanding. Still work to do, but a start. I am concerned about my little front cap. Not really there yet, but as you know have done some reinforcing of the lip on the hull/bow as there were a bazillion little rivet holes & cracks & also on the cap lip itself(inner lip). See above post for pics. To orient you, I took these pics while lying on the ground looking straight up. As you can see, there is a considerable gap between the hull "lip" & the cap "lip". Let me assure you, this is not due to the hull flexing as it was sort of like this during demo. The only difference was when I pulled/drilled out the rivets that were holding the cap to the hull & the rivets holding the rubrail frame to the cap & thru the hull, the lips of both were very fragile, cracked, & essentially useless then. Now, since glassing both lips, the structure is much more rigid & I am concerned what will happen when/if I try to use rivets to fasten the cap & rail back as they were. If you look back on the last few posts concerning the trailer & cap, you can see just how many holes there were on both. Looked like a colander. I thought it best to firm up these edges, but now I'm having my doubts what will happen if I use rivets to try to pull/snug this together. Any thoughts? Spacers?
 

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I suspect its your computer &/or internet connection lagging when the keyboard 'gets sticky'

Try typing ahead of where you can 'see' the typing appear on the screen. Windows will sometimes keep track of your keystrokes even when they aren't appearing on screen. When the computer or connection processing catches up, what you've typed appears, sometimes..........

Photobucket may also still be processing your pix to either be post-able or into a size/format that can be posted.

Eh, computers make our lives simpler, right.... :watermelon:

There is often a gap between the hull lip & the cap lip, esp around contours in the hull like the point of the bow & the corners at the transom. Many have gone to a rip of plywood glass & glued to the inside face of the lip, and then using screws to connect the cap to hull. The rub rail covers the joint, correct? How does the rub rail attach?

Once fastened together, the gap can be filled. Some use PB, others might use 3M 4200 or similar.
 

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If I remember you glassed in a strip of wood on the inside of the lip but it looks like you may have stopped where the bow starts to curve.

Ya think it would be a good idea to bring the strip right on around . That way you can use screws to fasten the top instead of rivets .
Just thinking .. :)
 
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friderday

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yeah, jb...the rubrail covers this area. so many things were connected together here, explaining why the lip was such a mess. the rubrail, too, was connected to the cap with rivets, as was the cap connected to the hull with rivets. it was clearly a rivet farm! reminded me of that old song we sang as kids: "the knee bone connected to the-thigh bone" ha ha...if you look back on my build, post #63, you will see the wood I glassed in at the top gunwhale. I did this to help firm up this area & to facilitate the rubrail(something to connect the channel to)l, but wonder if I should do something similar to this on the inner lip of the cap to help fill this gap. here are those transom pics.
 

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Once again, sam, we are typing great ideas at the same time. Yeah, I stopped that strip on the inner gunwhale about 6 inches past where the cap would cover. The turns were problematic & tedious but not impossible. Wondering now if I should not only finish that(which won't necessarily help my current problem with the cap, but also put a strip in strategic places of the inner lip of the cap to help bridge these gaps. Thanks for the ideas...off to a long day workin' fer the man!!!
 

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Hey fellas...been a while...I got so tired of hearing me say, "I'm gonna flip her this week" that I swore I would not post until I could say she's flipped. Been fiddling with a couple things along the way. I sanded down & fared to outer gunwhales, even though they will be hidden by the rubrail. Mostly, though, been working on that gap under the cap I showed you last. I got that problem solved, PB some wood strips in there to close the gap...think it'll be ok(just remembered, don't have a pic of this...sorry...tomorrow)..have a small problem also concerning the cap, though...If you look back at post #100, you remember how I firmed this appendage up with new glass & a bit of wood. Apparently, I didn't take my own advice & measure/support. Although it fits back on, one side is off about 3/8"-1/2". You'll see on the pics. Won't fit flush because the glassing firmed it up, therefore, won't accommodate the rubrail without a huge gap. Sooooo, I have a plan how to make it right. Just gonna build up inside & grind outside back & reform this more to fit contour. starboard side pretty flush. port not so good. starboard. port
 
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