Your thoughts on this transom please.

[BigHE]

I have to start off by saying that I did things in reverse. Bought the boat and then found this site. I wanted to find something that I could restore in about a year and a half. I'm primarily a bass fisherman, but living in VA (2hrs from VA Beach) I'm quickly falling for other species as well. I've seen the fish taken from that area during the Rockfish Shootout. If that ain't motivation, I don't know what is.

Anyway, back to the boat. After reading many posts for the last 5 days or so, I have a few questions about the transom.

It appears that the transom has been replaced, but it looks like its separating at some spots. The transom itself looks, feels and sounds solid, but I have not taken samples yet. I think my concern is what is referred to as the transom cap on the sides (red arrow areas).

At first, I figured I?d fill it and glass over it and glass over the center lowered section of the top of the transom as well (if there is a specific term, please let me know).

Here are some other photos:

 

[BigHE]

Re: Your thoughts on this transom please.

More Pics:

Its gonna be a while before I get it on the water. I'm trying to do it all cash and my goal is the fall of 2013 (all while bass fishing, deer hunting (both gun and bow) and life constantly empty my pockets). I can't afford to drop thousands all at once, so I figured a couple hundred here, a couple hundred there. At some point she'll be done.

What the best course of action? Thanks in advance.

I just picked the boat up a couple of days ago. She's gonna get a complete scrub down and a cover this week.

 

[oops!]

Re: Your thoughts on this transom please.

hi....welcome to iboats.

that looks like a very poor transom job.

it looks like the cut the back skin out.....threw a chunk of wood....glassed it.....and filled it....they did a really bad job of fairing.

how does the boat handle? does it poorus?...pull to one side easier than the other?

unless done correctly, that style of transom repair is bound to fail.

 

[BigHE]

Re: Your thoughts on this transom please.

Thanks for the "Welcome."

Haven't run it yet. No motor. Had it in the water on the trailer to look for leaks, but that's it. I got the boat really cheap and figured I could get it right slowly and comfortably, financially speaking. One job at a time while gaining experience.

 

[oops!]

Re: Your thoughts on this transom please.

sorry to give you the bad news right off the bat bud.

the good news is that you wanted a project.....and that is a good one !

there are three threads here with the same problem.

its a tough one to fix. but its a glass boat.....and anything can be fixed.

 

[BigHE]

Re: Your thoughts on this transom please.

I appreciate the honesty and all the info. I have read many of your other posts, tips and suggestions and know this experience speaking here. Hearing the bad is better than an unplanned swim. I saw some recent posts with transom issues, but wasn't sure I was in the same boat (pardon the pun). Well, guess I should attack all the wood while I'm at it. CRAP!!! Itching Sucks!

 

[coolbri70]

Re: Your thoughts on this transom please.

thinking something has flexed or is less than solid possibly swelling to make those cracks, something has moved or the repair material shrunk since the work was done, i would take core samples just to be sure .

 

[BigHE]

Re: Your thoughts on this transom please.

hi....welcome to iboats.

that looks like a very poor transom job.

it looks like the cut the back skin out.....threw a chunk of wood....glassed it.....and filled it....they did a really bad job of fairing.

how does the boat handle? does it poorus?...pull to one side easier than the other?

unless done correctly, that style of transom repair is bound to fail.

So cutting the back skin out will make it more difficult?

 

[BigHE]

Re: Your thoughts on this transom please.

I was going to take core samples, but decide to go ahead and rest the boat from the stringers up. I have worked with glassing before. I'm no pro, but familiar. Plus, all the tips and advice on the site has given me courage. Lol!

 

[Yacht Dr.]

Re: Your thoughts on this transom please.

hi....welcome to iboats.

that looks like a very poor transom job.

it looks like the cut the back skin out.....threw a chunk of wood....glassed it.....and filled it....they did a really bad job of fairing.

how does the boat handle? does it poorus?...pull to one side easier than the other?

unless done correctly, that style of transom repair is bound to fail.

Yea..lets hope they glassed over the wood LOL ..

I think oops is right on spot..they did an outside job and did not wrap the fiberglass seam into the splash well.

What your going to need to do is take a 4.5" grinder and start removing paint/gel at the crack seam down to hopefully fiberglass. Once you know where the fiberglass is and the putty ends..then you can grind out more.

Your basically going to be grinding/beveling 4" on your transom at the cracks..and grinding all the way to the bottom aft of your splash well at the transom mount. You might get away with just grinding to the top forward edges of the transom risers on each side..didnt look like they wrapped up top of those V risers.

Hope Im explaining this good enough for ya..

YD.

 

[BigHE]

Found a soft spot...That's makes it easy. 70s Wellcraft V20 Resto

Found a soft spot...That's makes it easy. 70s Wellcraft V20 Resto

I was out cleaning the boat for the first time since picking it up. I wanted to see what was under ALL that dirt, so I could form some kind of plan. I found out through my previous thread that a PO had done a poor transom repair.

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=548627

I know now that I will be replacing the transom. I was prepared to do whatever it took to get her 'right" when I bought the boat. Locally, friends and such thought the boat was in running condition now, with a few cosmetic fixes. After reading through many threads here, I know otherwise. She won't see water anytime soon.

Somehow during the excitement of finding my first project boat, I apparently missed a small soft spot in the deck. Well, I found it today, between the console and the starboard gunwale. The resto is on!!! No regrets. This is the only way I can afford to do it...myself (with your help of course, lol).

I have a few questions to start:

I'm a big guy 280lbs. Is it likely that I'll screw up the hull walking directly on it repeatedly during this process?

I need to have the boat covered while she's so exposed, will a tarp serve better during the rebuild or should I go ahead and get the cover for a 20' CC? Does it matter?

Also, I have read through a lot of resto threads and some take the entire cap off, some do just the rear and cut along the the deck. What would you suggest for me?

Should I cut red or blue?

 

[BigHE]

Re: Your thoughts on this transom please.

Yea..lets hope they glassed over the wood LOL ..

I think oops is right on spot..they did an outside job and did not wrap the fiberglass seam into the splash well.

What your going to need to do is take a 4.5" grinder and start removing paint/gel at the crack seam down to hopefully fiberglass. Once you know where the fiberglass is and the putty ends..then you can grind out more.

Your basically going to be grinding/beveling 4" on your transom at the cracks..and grinding all the way to the bottom aft of your splash well at the transom mount. You might get away with just grinding to the top forward edges of the transom risers on each side..didnt look like they wrapped up top of those V risers.

Hope Im explaining this good enough for ya..

YD.

I am a little lost. Can you please explain at following link? I think I may have posted in a way that will result in double postings.

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=549140

 

[BigHE]

Re: Found a soft spot...That's makes it easy. 70s Wellcraft V20 Resto

Re: Found a soft spot...That's makes it easy. 70s Wellcraft V20 Resto

From my original thread:

Yea..lets hope they glassed over the wood LOL ..

I think oops is right on spot..they did an outside job and did not wrap the fiberglass seam into the splash well.

What your going to need to do is take a 4.5" grinder and start removing paint/gel at the crack seam down to hopefully fiberglass. Once you know where the fiberglass is and the putty ends..then you can grind out more.

Your basically going to be grinding/beveling 4" on your transom at the cracks..and grinding all the way to the bottom aft of your splash well at the transom mount. You might get away with just grinding to the top forward edges of the transom risers on each side..didnt look like they wrapped up top of those V risers.

Hope Im explaining this good enough for ya..

YD.

So, basically using inner glass skin instead of outer?

 

[Yacht Dr.]

Re: Found a soft spot...That's makes it easy. 70s Wellcraft V20 Resto

Re: Found a soft spot...That's makes it easy. 70s Wellcraft V20 Resto

From my original thread:



So, basically using inner glass skin instead of outer?

No..you have to fix the Outer glass skin for you repair ( your re-doing what the last guy did .. but properly ).

YD.

 

[BigHE]

Re: Found a soft spot...That's makes it easy. 70s Wellcraft V20 Resto

Re: Found a soft spot...That's makes it easy. 70s Wellcraft V20 Resto

Yea..lets hope they glassed over the wood LOL ..

I think oops is right on spot..they did an outside job and did not wrap the fiberglass seam into the splash well.

What your going to need to do is take a 4.5" grinder and start removing paint/gel at the crack seam down to hopefully fiberglass. Once you know where the fiberglass is and the putty ends..then you can grind out more.

Your basically going to be grinding/beveling 4" on your transom at the cracks..and grinding all the way to the bottom aft of your splash well at the transom mount. You might get away with just grinding to the top forward edges of the transom risers on each side..didnt look like they wrapped up top of those V risers.

Hope Im explaining this good enough for ya..

YD.

I think I got it. So I will not be removing the transom itself again (if the core samples come out ok)? I will just be removing the putty job and fixing it with glass and mat the right way? So remove putty as shown in pic?

 

[Yacht Dr.]

Re: Found a soft spot...That's makes it easy. 70s Wellcraft V20 Resto

Re: Found a soft spot...That's makes it easy. 70s Wellcraft V20 Resto

You have to grind back to raw glass before wrapping your transom..so if thats ALL putty then yea I would remove it.

Somebody needs to merge the two threads together .. Might want to notify a moderator.

YD.

 

[BigHE]

Re: Found a soft spot...That's makes it easy. 70s Wellcraft V20 Resto

Re: Found a soft spot...That's makes it easy. 70s Wellcraft V20 Resto

You have to grind back to raw glass before wrapping your transom..so if thats ALL putty then yea I would remove it.

Somebody needs to merge the two threads together .. Might want to notify a moderator.

YD.

Okay I will. So in your opinion is this transom repairabe to 100 percent strength?

 

[oops!]

Re: Found a soft spot...That's makes it easy. 70s Wellcraft V20 Resto

Re: Found a soft spot...That's makes it easy. 70s Wellcraft V20 Resto

i gotta find the other thread.

any glass boat can be fixed.

 

[BigHE]

Re: Found a soft spot...That's makes it easy. 70s Wellcraft V20 Resto

Re: Found a soft spot...That's makes it easy. 70s Wellcraft V20 Resto

i gotta find the other thread.

any glass boat can be fixed.

Well there is a piece of good news. The original thread is posted at the top of this 1.