What gift will you give Chucky and Camilla?

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LONDON, England (CNN) -- Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles may be forced to allow total strangers into their wedding -- commoners who may be allowed to object to the match.<br /><br />British newspapers reported Monday that under Britain's 1994 Marriage Act, the public must have unfettered access to witness a marriage so they can object if they wish.<br /><br />The April 8 ceremony has already been switched from Windsor Castle to the local town hall after a legal complication. A wedding at the castle would mean opening it up for three years to commoners' weddings as well. (Full story)<br /><br />On the issue of public admittance to the wedding, a spokesperson for Charles' office, Clarence House, told CNN Monday: "Obviously there are lots of security implications. A decision will be made nearer the time."<br /><br />Asked if it may, under the law, become necessary to admit a limited number of members of the public to the ceremony, the spokesperson said: "If it's the law, it's the law."<br /><br />Clarence House announced Thursday the union of the divorced heir to the throne and his divorced longtime love would take place at the Guildhall in Windsor, west of London (Full story)<br /><br />Stephen Cretney, an emeritus fellow of All Souls' College, Oxford, told Britain's Guardian newspaper that Britain's Marriage (Approved Premises) Regulations, which opened the way for civil marriages to be held in places other than register offices, made it plain that the public had to be admitted. <br /><br />He pointed to a rule which said: "Public access to any ceremony of marriage solemnized in approved premises must be permitted without charge." <br /><br />The Daily Mail newspaper on Monday quoted an unidentified former registrar of births, marriages and deaths as saying that the right to public access posed "a real problem."<br /><br />He told the paper: "The law is the law and it is very clear in this case. There is no ambiguity about it whatsoever.<br /><br />"That is why, for example, weddings are never permitted in private homes as people who have a legitimate right to object would not know they were taking place."<br /><br />The ex-registrar said that some people in Britain had made it clear they objected to the marriage. <br /><br />He said he believed there were pressure groups such as Fathers4Justice -- whose members threw powder at Prime Minister Tony Blair from the public gallery at the House of Commons -- that would "jump at the chance" to disrupt the royal nuptials.<br /><br />The Guardian said preparations for the wedding had already taken "a farcical turn" after Cretney and other experts raised the question of whether the marriage was actually legal under existing law.<br /><br />Cretney had argued that members of the royal family have no power under marriage law to contract civil marriages, calling on Blair's government to introduce a one-sentence bill authorizing royals to marry in civil ceremonies to remove any doubts about the legality of the marriage. <br /><br />At the weekend Britain's Lord Chancellor, head of the judiciary, defended his view that Charles' forthcoming marriage to Parker Bowles would be will be legal. <br /><br />Lord Falconer told the Mail on Sunday: "I remain confident that the prince and Mrs. Parker Bowles can marry in a civil ceremony. We have considered every aspect of this and taken all the appropriate advice." <br /><br />He said the 1949 Marriage Act, which updated the law on civil marriages, did not exclude the royal family as a previous 1836 Act had done. <br /><br />The Guildhall at Windsor is one of 29 approved venues for civil wedding ceremonies in the Windsor area. Local authorities charge £265 ($500) for a weekday ceremony -- plus £20 extra if, like Charles and Camilla, a couple wishes to wed on a Friday.
 

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Re: What gift will you give Chucky and Camilla?

Mine is a double paper bag for her face, and Viagra for Chuckles.
 

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Re: What gift will you give Chucky and Camilla?

Originally posted by NYMINUTE:<br /> Mine is a double paper bag for her face, and Viagra for Chuckles.
:D :D :D , Excellent MYN!!
 

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I guess if our British cousins can stand for this; "That is why, for example, weddings are never permitted in private homes as people who have a legitimate right to object would not know they were taking place."<br /> <br /><br />..it stands to reason why they didn't mind their government taking away most all of the firearms!!
 

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Re: What gift will you give Chucky and Camilla?

Why in the heck would you need to be guaranteed the right to object to someone else's wedding.<br /><br />That is the stupidest law ever.<br /><br />If someone objects, do they have to stop the wedding?<br /><br />Ken
 

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Why object? It gets themout of circulation, and the commoners will be safer now. I wonder if his ears get in the way or do they tickle??? Yuck, Why do I think like this? I just offended myself1!!
 

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Originally posted by KenImpZoom:<br /> Why in the heck would you need to be guaranteed the right to object to someone else's wedding.<br />
If you can stop them marrying it reduces the chances of them breeding, which would be a big plus with Chuck and Camilla.
 

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Originally posted by Boomyal:<br /> <br />..it stands to reason why they didn't mind their government taking away most all of the firearms!!
It's linked to the recent ban on fox hunting in the UK. It's all part of a cunning plan to protect Camilla. <br /><br />If the citizenry were armed and hounds were roaming the countryside, how long do you reckon she'd last?
 

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Re: What gift will you give Chucky and Camilla?

You guys are really being ugly and vicious.<br /><br />Do you have a complaint, do you think you are being funny or are you just exhibiting bullylike behavior?
 

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Re: What gift will you give Chucky and Camilla?

Birth control, wouldn't want them to reproduce, my God think about ugly :p ;) :D
 

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Re: What gift will you give Chucky and Camilla?

Send them Michael Jackson - permanently.
 

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Originally posted by JB:<br /> You guys are really being ugly and vicious.<br /><br />Do you have a complaint, do you think you are being funny or are you just exhibiting bullylike behavior?
JB<br /><br />Yours is fair and serious point and it deserves a fair and serious response.<br /><br />I’d accept your rebuke in other circumstances about just anyone else. <br /><br />The fact is that Camilla is a singularly unpleasant person who is getting back no more than she dished out. For example: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1088120689292_83529889 I<br /><br />Charles is just as bad.<br /><br />You in the US had the good sense to get rid of the Crown in 1776. We’re still stuck with it.<br /><br />Charles will be my next head of state if the Queen dies or, less likely because she knows he isn’t up to the job, abdicates.<br /><br />I couldn’t care less whether he and Camilla had an affair while they were both married to other people, or whether they marry or don’t marry, or anything else about them, except to the extent it bears on his fitness for office as the Head of State of my country and a few others, including England.<br /><br />If Charles becomes king he will also become the head of the Church of England, Defender of the Faith. His marital infidelities deceived and betrayed both his former wife and Camilla’s husband. He is unfit to occupy any position of moral or religious authority. Camilla is equally unfit to be in a position to influence him in performing those or any other duties. How can the Church of England possibly maintain that the sanctity of marriage is paramount when it has Charles as its head with Camilla beside him as his wife? It’d be a joke.<br /><br />If Charles and Camilla breed their child will be the next king or queen of England and my, and my children’s, next head of state. <br /><br />Like Americans have had for the past 230 or so years, I’d prefer to have some voice in who is my head of state instead of having whatever pops out of some inbred aristocratic reproductive organs being foisted on me, no matter how stupid, inept, dangerous, dishonest, mad, or useless they may be.<br /><br />Our members of parliament, our armed services, our police, our judges and lawyers, all sorts of public officials here take an oath of office to serve the reigning king or queen of England. I’ve taken a few of them myself. It’s a fairly meaningless formality for most of us most of the time, but if the incumbent was Charles married to Camilla it would stick in my craw to see people taking an oath to serve that deceitful, unfaithful, bumbling fool or his offspring. <br /><br />Independently of that I object to the British system, and for that matter all systems, of aristocracy and monarchy which by accidents of birth put people like Charles and Camilla in privileged positions where they sponge off the state without contributing anything of value to it, except for people who see value in things like “tradition” or who espouse historically unsustainable notions about the “stability of Britain under the Crown”. <br /><br />These aristocratic and royal spongers nonetheless object to workers getting unemployment benefits and think that, unlike them, other people shouldn’t expect to be elevated without working hard for it. Prince Charles, who was born into his right to a huge income from the public purse and who hasn’t shown anything in the way of natural ability except for being personable at public functions and for making a fool of himself from time to time, had the gall to write this in a private memo:<br /><br />"What is wrong with everyone nowadays? <br />"Why do they all seem to think they are qualified to do things far beyond their technical capabilities? <br />"People think they can all be pop stars, high court judges, brilliant TV personalities or infinitely more competent heads of state without ever putting in the necessary work or having natural ability." <br /> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4019673.stm <br /><br /><br />Charles appears to be under the delusion that he’s put in the necessary work or has the natural ability to be my next head of state. My son has as much right as he does except my son wasn’t born into the family that has its claws on the monarchy.<br /><br />There’s lots of people who don’t share my view in Australia, the UK and the Queen’s other dominions but there’s plenty who do. <br /><br />View my posts in light of those opinions and I think they’re as fair and reasonable as a lot of comments and cartoons in respectable newspapers about Charles and Camilla over the years. They’re also a lot more concise and pointed than this explanation.
 

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Re: What gift will you give Chucky and Camilla?

Jeez Tink, JB touch a nerve did he?<br /><br />I like you post and I agree with most of it, the monarchy are a joke and I don't want them anywhere near Australia but lets face it, their duties are cerimonial at best - and they give a lot of money to charity.<br /><br />BTW, when taking an official oath in Australia you have a choice to include the Queen or not.<br /><br />The future Queen of Denmark is a different story - hubba hubba ;) <br /><br />Aldo
 

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Originally posted by Dunaruna:<br /> Jeez Tink, JB touch a nerve did he?<br /><br />I like you post and I agree with most of it, the monarchy are a joke and I don't want them anywhere near Australia but lets face it, their duties are cerimonial at best - and they give a lot of money to charity.<br /><br />BTW, when taking an official oath in Australia you have a choice to include the Queen or not.<br /><br />The future Queen of Denmark is a different story - hubba hubba ;) <br /><br />Aldo
I thought the House of Windsor was a charity that the English public supported. :D <br /><br />I haven't taken an oath since the late '70's. There wasn't any choice then. I didn't realise it had changed. Can you pick the monarch of another country you'd like to be loyal to instead of England? The Tassie sheila in Denmark would be OK.
 

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Yeah, they do sponge on the english public BUT it is well documented that the monarcy attracts massive tourism and corporate charity donations. The earn their keep so to speak. I'm not a monarchist - far from it but I can see the justification to retain them, even if it is old horse head. But don't worry, she will never be in a postion of power - can't happen.<br /><br />Aldo
 

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JB, I think it is fair game to make fun of these "celebrities". Its the world's pastime.<br /><br />Ken
 

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Re: What gift will you give Chucky and Camilla?

Originally posted by Dunaruna:<br /> Yeah, they do sponge on the english public BUT it is well documented that the monarcy attracts massive tourism and corporate charity donations. The earn their keep so to speak. I'm not a monarchist - far from it but I can see the justification to retain them, even if it is old horse head. <br />Aldo
Do you reckon it'd boost tourism if they gave her the Phar Lap museum treatment when she karks it?
 

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Do you reckon it'd boost tourism if they gave her the Phar Lap museum treatment when she karks it? [/QB]
Anyone care to translate that? :D :D <br /><br />I have worked with Aussies before and never heard "karks"<br /><br />Ken
 
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