Re: War in Iraq
Originally posted by PW2:<br /> I really don't understand your position 12 footer.<br /><br />First off, just because there were some spineless dems who were afraid to appear "soft" on terrorism, does not justify anything.
<br />Do you think i disagree with that or something? I don't get the seperation you elude to. To me, words mean things. To me, "apearing soft on terrorism" is American suicide regardless of which party you are at.<br /><br />I'm not upset over the lefties i posted quotes of, expressing their solidarity with US policy, if that is what you are thinking. I am upset over the left talking out of both sides of their mouths (as usual).<br />It upsets me that folks listen to them now, but ignore their recorded comments, in an effort to make it appear that BUSH alone, went to war without them!<br />It illustrates the total, rank hypocracy of the left and their present tack.<br />It's time they are held accountable for their historic stand on the war on terror, and expose their hypocracy for what is is... Which is a witch hunt IMHO.<br /><br /><br />
Originally posted by PW2:<br /><br />I can't understand why the repubs want to block a thorough investigation of what went wrong with the intelligence, and why it went wrong. Because it clearly was wrong. Surely if the were a "plot" by the CIA, it would reveal itself.
I guess you didn't read the news today, or your post predates the news i heard (don't know which, nor do i care), because I'll C&P the entire thing to bring you up to speed on just how the majority is responding to all of this:<br /><br />
"Dear Chairman Hoekstra and Chairman Roberts: We request that you immediately initiate a joint investigation into the possible release of classified information to the media alleging that the United States government may be detaining and interrogating terrorists at undisclosed locations abroad. As you know, if accurate, such an egregious disclosure could have long-term and far reaching, damaging and dangerous consequences. It will imperil our efforts to protect the American people and our homeland from terrorist attacks. The purpose of your investigation will be to determine the following: Was the information provided to the media classified and accurate? Who leaked this information, and under what authority -- and what is the actual and potential damage done to the national security of the United States and our partners in the global war on terror? We will consider other changes to this mandate based on your recommendations. Any information that you obtain on this matter that may implicate possible violations of law should be referred to the Department of Justice for appropriate action. We expect that you will move expeditiously to complete this inquiry and that you will provide us with periodic updates. We are hopeful that you will be able to accomplish this task in a bipartisan manner, given general agreement that intelligence matters should not be politicized. Either way, however, your inquiry shall proceed," meaning: The Democrats go along with it? Fine. If they don't? Fine. The inquiry shall proceed. "The leaking of classified information by employees of the US government appears to have increased in recent years, establishing a dangerous trend that if not addressed swiftly and firmly, likely will worsen. The unauthorized release of classified information is serious and threatens our nation's security. It also puts the lives of many Americans and the security of our nation at risk. Thanks for your prompt attention to this matter, Bill Frist, majority leader, US Senate; J. Denny Hastert, speaker, US House of Representatives." <br />Bill Frist. Denny Hassert!<br />There is a coverup for sure, PW. My question is WHO leaked this stuff to Novak to begin with. This is an EXTREMELY serious breach of national security...MY national, YOUR national. The left just wants to get Bush, no matter how many Delay's and Roves it takes!<br />Bush is going to clean the CIA's house out, and it's long overdue, PW. Classified means classified, regardless of left,right or Alqeuda.<br />Your mistake, (and it's a common one amoung the left) is that you think the Bush admin is behind a consipacy to lie to the American people to bring us into a war...This, after 9/11. This, after lefty and neocon alike acted on the intel they had. This with the CIA not only obstructing progress, but "allowing" for leaks --but only if the leak could implicate the right somehow. and no wonder Bush is cleaning house n the CIA and state dept.!<br /><br /> The left has been indicting the right, but they forgot an old parable:
"Be carefull what oyu wish for. You just might get it"<br />I hope you are prepaired to "investigate" the investigators in addition to your political enemies.<br /><br />
Originally posted by PW2:<br /><br />Surely it is in the best interests of every American for their leaders to get accurate, reliable, timely intelligence--and how can we possibly improve it if we block trying to find out what went wrong?
The CIA's purpose is to gather intelegence. It's not their duty to leak it. And don't get me started on Sandy Burglar while, after his tratorous acts of covert theft and destruction, he is STILL a free man!<br />He should be bummin smokes and sharing facilities with Sadamn Insane.
