Re: Trim tabs electric vs smart?
Wrong again. Why are you so adamant that Smart tabs are BETTER than Adjustable tabs? They are NOT, plain and simple.
Like QC said, it's for people on a budget. No way I would put smart tabs on anything over 18' personally. Maybe you should hire a captain to run your boat for you!
LOL, You keep saying smart tabs do so much more, they don't do anything more or better. Sorry, admit defeat and move on newbie!
I like to debate when I know I'm right
Why are you so adamant that helm controlled tabs are better than Nauticus tabs? They are NOT! Plain and simple. ! Neither one is better than the other for all sized boats. There not for people on a budget, I spent 12 g in upgrades to my boat, do you think I was worried about a few extra hundred dollars. No, your wrong to make that statement! By you saying that, you are saying that anyone that buys nauticus tabs is cheap or can't afford "real tabs"! I just have to laugh at that one!
First place, maybe you should actually go back and read my statements, at no time did I say Smart Tabs were better than helm controlled tabs all the time, for every boat, or in every condition!! I did say they are two different animals. They don't do the same things! Yes they do some of the same things! The helm control tabs like I stated before will excell over Nauticus tabs in certain areas, but nauticus tabs will excell over helm controlled tabs in other areas like better performance.
Give me the numbers! All you guys that say nauticus isn't as good, give me the numbers! I know exactly what the tabs did for my boat because I ran a test with and without them on the boat. The proof is in the performance.
You are correct when you say, I said the nauticus tabs do more, (in the performance areas). It is not possible for any human to adjust helm controlled tabs (manually) fast enough for them to be beneficial to performance all the time on your boat. Unless you have invested heavily in automatic controls for your helm controlled tabs, it is impossible for you to adjust them as fast as nauticus tabs adjust on there own.
Skier and fishing - Lets say you are getting on plane, then you slow down, then you speed up, then you turn, speed up again, slow down, stop, start planing again,stop, plane, turn, slow down, throttle to wot! How many times would you have adjusted your trim tabs in that scenario for best performance????? Ohh, by the way, you will need to be adjusting them while you are driving the boat, moving the throttle, watching for on coming boats, looking for debris in the water, watching your skier, and paying attention to other people on board etc etc etc. I have to do non of that while adjusting my tabs because mine adjust on there own. The point is, my tabs are constantly adjusting to put the boat into the best running position saving me fuel and making the ride better. Your helm controlled tabs rely on you to do that!
Helm controlled tabs Like I have said have there place. They have been used for many years and will continue to be used, but they are better on certain boats, just like nauticus tabs are better on certain boats.
You sir, are the one that is wrong if you think that helm controlled tabs do the same thing or are better than nauticus tabs in all areas. It simply isn't true and is impossible for them to change to conditions fast enough to be a performance gain in most areas. That being said, nauticus tabs will fail in comparison when trying to level out a severe leaning or in a following sea. But thats about where it stops!
Must be nice to be so closed minded and think you are right about it all. Also must be sad to have been on this forum (O ld Salt) for so long and not learned a thing about what Nauticus tabs bring to the table. Enjoy having to control your tabs and getting the most efficient attitude out of them! Meanwhile, I will enjoy being hands free while my tabs are doing there best to improve the boats performance all the time by themselves.
By the way, the newbee card doesn't work unless your talking to someone that is with out much boating experience.:facepalm: I've only been operating a boat on the water offshore and inland for almost 30 years. Again, like I said, show me your performance numbers before and after your tab install, then we can compare how much efficientcy your getting from your tabs.
Its easy to come on here and talk about what you think you know, but its better if you actually know what your talking about. Have you ever had Nauticus tabs on a boat you owned, ran, and tested? If so, show the numbers! Why sir would you put them on a 18 foot boat and under? Why? Because there cheap? That to me shows your ignorance because there are many very expensive 18 ft boats on the water and many people that are not worried about the cost of trim tabs.
By the way old timer, responding to your earlier post, nauticus tabs allow your boat to plain at a much slower speed, thats part of what makes them great. While allowing that they are also doing it with much less rpms per speed.
They also adjust automatically to 1/4 seas or if the wind is blowing they have already and continue to adjust to the pressure it is putting on your boat. Thus giving you a better ride.
Also, you said you adjust your boat for spray, I don't get spray on my boat hardly ever. Maybe its because the style boat I have or just maybe its because my tabs have the boat in the right position to start with instead of me having to adjust the attitude of the boat with helm controls to prevent spray.
Smart tabs do alot more than you think by always putting the boat in the best running position. Do the helm control tabs help more in some situation, as I have already said, yup! But the pros of the smart tabs "imo" outweight the pros of the helm controlled tabs for my boat.
As I stated in my first post here, the OP will have to decide whats better for him and his boat. I assume he will take everyones opinions and make the choice thats best for him.
Sorry, admit defeat, and move on old timer!