trailer rehab

[redneck joe]

$200 for lights?

you've never seen me with electrical stuff...

 

[redneck joe]

If you are talking about the signal that gets sent to the brakes from your brake controller in your cab, that's a yes.

multi quote seems to be not working? cool thanks

 

[redneck joe]

While you are buying parts, don't forget a breakaway kit

I'll have to research that. On the face of it, breaking away form the truck does not sound like a good idea.

 

[oldjeep]

I'll have to research that. On the face of it, breaking away form the truck does not sound like a good idea.

Should be around $50, just a breakaway switch and a battery/holder. You need it to be legal as a way to actuate the brakes if the trailer leaves you.

http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Breakaway-Kit/Pro-Series/50-85-315.html

 

[NYBo]

you've never seen me with electrical stuff...

Remember, it's a trailer, not a Christmas tree! :eyebrows:

 

[redneck joe]

Should be around $50, just a breakaway switch and a battery/holder. You need it to be legal as a way to actuate the brakes if the trailer leaves you.

http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Brea...50-85-315.html

interesting I'm supposed to have breaks on anything over 1500 lbs - thats not much weight. http://www.brakebuddy.com/Towing-Laws although this one says 3000 http://www.glen-l.com/designs/trailer/trailer-laws.html

This one is 1500 and states over 3000 lbs require breakaway - but is that trailer only or loaded weight I wonder.

http://towingworld.com/towinglawsbystate.cfm?state2=TN



I've never seen a breakaway on a trailer (not that I'm looking but...)

 

[redneck joe]

Remember, it's a trailer, not a Christmas tree! :eyebrows:

Ha - not I'm talking about breaking stuff, shorting out etc. Electricity and I do not dance well together.

 

[oldjeep]

interesting I'm supposed to have breaks on anything over 1500 lbs - thats not much weight. http://www.brakebuddy.com/Towing-Laws although this one says 3000 http://www.glen-l.com/designs/trailer/trailer-laws.html

This one is 1500 and states over 3000 lbs require breakaway - but is that trailer only or loaded weight I wonder.

http://towingworld.com/towinglawsbystate.cfm?state2=TN



I've never seen a breakaway on a trailer (not that I'm looking but...)

I've never seen a trailer that has brakes without a breakaway. On a surge brake setup it is just a cable leading to the actuator that mechanically pulls and locks the brake piston. For electric it is a NO switch that when pulled opens the path between the battery and brakes and locks the brakes up at full power.

The 3000lbs requires breakaway would be the weight that the trailer is licensed at (typically max loaded weight) - or max loaded weight if they don't license by weight in your state.

 

[bruceb58]

http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Breakaway-Kit/Hopkins/20099.html

 

[redneck joe]

I've never seen a trailer that has brakes without a breakaway. On a surge brake setup it is just a cable leading to the actuator that mechanically pulls and locks the brake piston. For electric it is a NC switch that when pulled opens the path between the battery and brakes and locks the brakes up at full power.

The 3000lbs requires breakaway would be the weight that the trailer is licensed at (typically max loaded weight) - or max loaded weight if they don't license by weight in your state.

ok I do remember the cable on my surge brakes.

 

[redneck joe]

Well, change of plans. Turns out there is a trailer shop across the highway from me so took the boat over there. Plus turns out there is an axle factory in Winchester just down the road.

Side note they were just purchased by Dexter in Dec last year http://www.boatingindustry.com/news/2013/12/22/dexter-axle-acquires-unique-functional-products/

So they will do everything, including lights for just under $1100 and that's before I offer crisp Benjamins instead of a check. I just need to get new tires/wheels now. A couple hundred more than I could have done it for but its a heck of a lot easier and by the time I ordered parts and got them here I'd be on vacation then back travelling for work. This way, should be done over the couple weeks I'll be in Seattle visiting family.


No, should I start a thread about which tires are best....

 

[redneck joe]

tire question for load range

C or D.

My calculations put trailer, boat, gear, fuel about 6200 lbs going pretty heavy. C rating give me 6400 lbs which include a 12% deduction for tandem trailer (it must be true I read it on the internet). That too close? If no would the D give any benefits anyway?

 

[oldjeep]

I'd run the D rated, no point at being right at the load limit.

 

[redneck joe]

that what I was thinking, only a few bucks more that gives me about 2500 spare.

 

[bruceb58]

What size tires?

Never heard about the 12% reduction for tandem. Where did you read that?

 

[oldjeep]

What size tires?

Never heard about the 12% reduction for tandem. Where did you read that?

You see it in all sorts of places. I think that the reasoning is 2 fold - 1) you'll never get exactly 50% of your trailer weight on each axle. 2) Is because of all the stress that you put on the tires when turning.

For single-axle trailers, tires can handle 100% of their load rating. For dual-axle trailers, loads must be reduced by 12%. -Goodyear Tire Company

 

[redneck joe]

i'm going to up to 2XX/75 15 from my current 14 somethings



Saw 10% a couple other places but had closed all those tabs already.



http://www.boatus.com/magazine/trail...iler-tires.asp

Load Range



Every tire has a load range, and trailer tires are no different. Marked on the sidewall, the load range runs from the lightest weight the tire can carry (Load Range B) to the heaviest (Load Range E). Load range is a measure of an individual tire's maximum capacity to carry a boat and trailer. Most boat trailer tires have a load range of B, C, or D. If a tire has load range C, it can carry 1,820 pounds. If it's on a single-axle trailer, this means both tires can carry a total of 3,640 pounds, which includes the weight of the trailer, the boat, the engine, fuel, and anything else inside the boat. Single-axle trailers can carry 100 percent of the load rating. Double-axle trailers require the load be reduced by 12 percent. As load range increases, psi increases.

 

[bruceb58]

Most boat trailer tires have a load range of B, C, or D. If a tire has load range C, it can carry 1,820 pounds.

Just so you know, the weight for a load range C depends on the size tire it is. A load Range C ST225/75R15 will be higher than a load range C ST205/75R15

 

[redneck joe]

well my guy said he'd be ready in a couple weeks; six weeks later he is still waiting on parts....

Looks like i get to do myself.

 

[redneck joe]

new question - how do I tell if my controller in the cab is for one or two sets of brakes?