Trailer issues

Bondo

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Re: Trailer issues

I also took the advise and turned the winch over as suggested, however I don't think that this will work.. I can crank in but when I flip the switch it dosent lock into place, I have not thought about that until I was done. is there anything I can do? Is that little peace for sale anywhere that will work with this upside down?
so basically I am cranking in backwards instead of forwards...

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Ayuh,... Run the cable/ strap off it, 'n keep crankin', so's it's wrapped the right way,....
 

smokeonthewater

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you have been over thinking it since you started pulling bolts out... you didn't gain anything at all by flipping the winch over as the strap exits in the center between the two bolts and hanging the winch off the end of the upright will net you a bent winch

you either need to make the winch post longer or you need to put it all back and bend the arm n just deal with the less than ideal pull angle
 

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Zippy, most winches will have a ratchet dog that will sit in three different positions. The middle position won't resist turning in either direction and allows you to turn the handle freely. The other two positions prevent the handle and the drum from selectively rotating in either a clockwise or counter-clockwise direction. What I see that you need to do is to unwrap the entire length of the strap and continue winding it up again in the opposite direction as Bondo suggested. This will have the strap pulling from the uppermost side of the drum. Now lower the winch so that both bolt holes line up on your winch post.

The net result of inverting the winch and rewinding the drum will raise the pulling point at least a couple of inches. It may not get the strap pulling horizontally, but it will be an improvement. In regard to the choice of steel for your bow roller support, In the picture above, I used 1" x 2" rectangular tube as you have listed in a previous post. It's strong and has a better profile than angle iron. I also used a 2" x 3" tube between the two 1" x 2" pieces to maintain their strength where they extend to the bow roller. This part may not be necessary for you as your boat is lighter than mine. - Grandad
 

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Question? Why use a peace of steal that is in a 90 degree angle? I understand that only one side will have holes that will hold it in place..
Could I use this instead?

Or should I look for a square tube some place?

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the idea is at the very end you cut a 45* angle on the last inch of the unused top side so its not out there to get in the way or pose a hazard. in effect making the very end like a flat bar but the arm itself is strong as all get out.

the two sides of the angle are what give it incredible strength and rigidity for the bow support as well as being cheap and easy to get at any hardware store.

the box style is ok too but we don't have that around here and where they do have it its kinda pricey in addition to not coming in galvanized. in my area everything needs salt water protection so its galvanized or go home when selecting materials to use.

if I were you I would remove the bow stop and just deal with your winch angle issue right now. flip the winch and rewind the strap as suggested then set it as even and level as you can but having a "little" down angle (1/8" to 3/16") is good IMO since it helps hold it down and secure but you don't want to go over 1/4" or that's too much even though it will still winch up the boat ok.

when you have the winch angle set up correctly then and only then do you want to look at making a proper bow stop for it.

im lazy so if I were you, instead of trying to make something, I would buy a taller bow post and start with that because it would eliminate a lot of your problems but if the winch is good with that post then you are just about done now and just need to make a support bracket for the bow stop.
 
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zippy83

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Zippy, most winches will have a ratchet dog that will sit in three different positions. The middle position won't resist turning in either direction and allows you to turn the handle freely. The other two positions prevent the handle and the drum from selectively rotating in either a clockwise or counter-clockwise direction. What I see that you need to do is to unwrap the entire length of the strap and continue winding it up again in the opposite direction as Bondo suggested. This will have the strap pulling from the uppermost side of the drum. Now lower the winch so that both bolt holes line up on your winch post.

The net result of inverting the winch and rewinding the drum will raise the pulling point at least a couple of inches. It may not get the strap pulling horizontally, but it will be an improvement. In regard to the choice of steel for your bow roller support, In the picture above, I used 1" x 2" rectangular tube as you have listed in a previous post. It's strong and has a better profile than angle iron. I also used a 2" x 3" tube between the two 1" x 2" pieces to maintain their strength where they extend to the bow roller. This part may not be necessary for you as your boat is lighter than mine. - Grandad

The did it with the winch now its almost leveled. I think I can live it it being off a couple of degrees... Yes I decided to use the 1x2 for the bow stop. I got all the parts ready for assembly..
 

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the idea is at the very end you cut a 45* angle on the last inch of the unused top side so its not out there to get in the way or pose a hazard. in effect making the very end like a flat bar but the arm itself is strong as all get out.

the two sides of the angle are what give it incredible strength and rigidity for the bow support as well as being cheap and easy to get at any hardware store.

the box style is ok too but we don't have that around here and where they do have it its kinda pricey in addition to not coming in galvanized. in my area everything needs salt water protection so its galvanized or go home when selecting materials to use.

Yes I agree using the angle iron the only thing is that I was worried about the other side of the angle being exposed... I found a local steel company and they let you walk through the warehouse and pick whatever you like. I got two 4' sections 1x2x3/16 for $12.00. This was way cheeper then buying an angle iron from a hardware store.
 

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This was way cheeper then buying an angle iron from a hardware store.
If you have a few bucks to spare and can prep some end caps, a welder can weld the tubes closed in a very few minutes. - Grandad
 

zippy83

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I may not have the proper tools to cut the end caps. I will figure something out though :)
 

smokeonthewater

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a sawsall, a grinder with a cutoff wheel OR even a circular saw with a cutoff wheel..... for that matter as much as I like POWER tools, a hack saw and a flat file are all you really need to cut pieces from your tube to make the caps.... If you don't want to do that get some epoxy putty or even.... COUGH COUGH.... bondo.....and make plugs/caps with it.... once sanded and painted nobody will ever know
 

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Looks good, zippy. Should work well for you.
 

zippy83

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Thanks. Seems to be stronger then the single bar I had on before. Thanks again everyone for ideas and suggestions on this one.
 

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Don't forget the safety chain, Zip.
 

zippy83

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Man... Good call!!! I totally forgot to put my saftey chain back on!!!
 
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