Trades employed scale 1-10

rbh

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If you took a look who stays employed the most in the trades who would you think.

Health care all aspects, employed I bet.

1) carpenter
2) plumber
3) electrician
4) computer tech
5) auto mechanic
5) cook
6) ? welder fabricator
7) Bartender (thats a trade EH??)
8) ?
9) ?
10) ?


Just my guesses, your take
 

RogersJetboat454

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Re: Trades employed scale 1-10

A few trades to add to your list;
Machinist. Mason. Barber/Cosmetologist. Bartender. Landscaper.

IMHO building trades are either feast or famine. Out of them all, the Plumber probably wins out (there's always a clogged toilet, or leaky faucet). But the others make their big cake when the economy is up, and people are building new houses/ or renovating. Other than that, they are dependant on Fire, Flood, Rot, code violations, or acts of God. I will say though, when the money is good, it's great. Most people I know in these trades have really nice homes, and drive nice cars. The downfall is when the economy shifts, affording to keep these can be difficult.

Mechanics... Something I know a bit about. We always have work. My favorite saying is "If fixing cars was fun or easy, I'd be out of a job". If you are competent, you can get a job with in a week, maybe 2 tops. With a good job, you'll live a comfortable existence. But you'll never get rich though.

I.T. People.. Seems like a steady line of work, but if a company goes belly up like allot of them, I don't know how quickly you're going to find another gig.

Cooks... Yeah, people have to eat. But they don't need to eat at a restaurant. Seems the most secure place to be if you're a cook is either in a hospital/nursing home, or working at a school cafeteria.

Just my .2?, others may disagree... ;)
 

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Re: Trades employed scale 1-10

1. 310T/421A
Even if you don't want to go to Alberta. Get those tix, and you will be in demand for the next century.

The more diverse the trade, the more security you have. And no trade is more diverse than Heavy Equipment Technician.
 

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Re: Trades employed scale 1-10

HVAC since it is always heating or cooling season......

Medical support people - health aides

LEO's
 

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Forgot to add one..
Collision repair.

My mothers BF does this. Most of the big money is made in the winter when people are hitting everything but the lottery. A good winter is bad for the trade. My mothers BF has been though 3 or 4 jobs since I've known him (past 8 or so years). If a shop has no work, they will start laying off people. It would be something that's high up on the list.
 

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Us old Army guys! until you retire! then finding employment is a .....
 

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We work year round here, washburn marina.
Marine tech....
 
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rbh

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Re: Trades employed scale 1-10

Well I should add welder/fabricator to the list.
 

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Re: Trades employed scale 1-10

If you took a look who stays employed the most in the trades who would you think.

Health care all aspects, employed I bet.

1) carpenter
2) plumber
3) electrician
4) computer tech
5) auto mechanic
5) cook
6) ? welder fabricator
7) Bartender (thats a trade EH??)
8) ?
9) ?
10) ?


Just my guesses, your take

Well....we are somewhat in the same boat Rob here in B.C.
A major point for comparison in there would be the Certified/Red Seal/Journeyman trades....that is the turning point for success in these.
Backyarders or un-ticketed 'jack of all trades' will always have a hard time.
Now, that said...of all the above the easiest to find is the computer tech which also makes them (increasingly) lower paid compared to some of the others, given the laws of supply and demand. This is quite the reversal from the 90's.:eek:
My two bits.....and interestingly this ties in to a thread I have been giving some thought to starting shortly around the future of education.:cool:
Interesting to see the feedback roll in on this.
All Good
BP:)
 

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A major point for comparison in there would be the Certified/Red Seal/Journeyman trades....that is the turning point for success in these.
agree.

here's the list of red seal trades. Maybe a better list to get opinions on:

Agricultural Equipment Technician
Appliance Service Technician
Automotive Painter
Automotive Service Technician
Baker
Boilermaker
Bricklayer
Cabinetmaker
Carpenter
Concrete Finisher
Construction Craft Worker
Construction Electrician
Cook
Drywall Finisher and Plasterer
Electric Motor System Technician
Floorcovering Installer
Gasfitter - Class A
Gasfitter - Class B
Glazier
Hairstylist
Heavy Duty Equipment Technician
Heavy Equipment Operator
Industrial Electrician
Industrial Mechanic (Millwright)
Instrumentation and Control Technician
Insulator (Heat and Frost)
Ironworker (Generalist)
Ironworker (Reinforcing)
Ironworker (Structural / Ornamental)
Landscape Horticulturist
Lather (Interior Systems Mechanic)
Machinist
Metal Fabricator (Fitter)
Mobile Crane Operator
Mobile Crane Operator (Hydraulic)
Motor Vehicle Body Repairer (Metal and Paint)
Motorcycle Mechanic
Oil Heat System Technician
Painter and Decorator
Partsperson
Plumber
Powerline Technician
Recreation Vehicle Service Technician
Refrigeration and Air Conditioning Mechanic
Rig Technician
Roofer
Sheet Metal Worker
Sprinkler System Installer
Steamfitter / Pipefitter
Tilesetter
Tool and Die Maker
Tower Crane Operator
Transport Trailer Technician
Truck and Transport Mechanic
Welder
 

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Us old Army guys! until you retire! then finding employment is a .....

Yep. Even trying to get into civil service with the army can be a pain, especially now since there is a hiring freeze with few exceptions.
 

Bill3434

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agree.

here's the list of red seal trades. Maybe a better list to get opinions on:

Agricultural Equipment Technician
Appliance Service Technician
Automotive Painter
Automotive Service Technician
Baker
Boilermaker
Bricklayer
Cabinetmaker
Carpenter
Concrete Finisher
Construction Craft Worker
Construction Electrician
Cook
Drywall Finisher and Plasterer
Electric Motor System Technician
Floorcovering Installer
Gasfitter - Class A
Gasfitter - Class B
Glazier
Hairstylist
Heavy Duty Equipment Technician
Heavy Equipment Operator
Industrial Electrician
Industrial Mechanic (Millwright)
Instrumentation and Control Technician
Insulator (Heat and Frost)
Ironworker (Generalist)
Ironworker (Reinforcing)
Ironworker (Structural / Ornamental)
Landscape Horticulturist
Lather (Interior Systems Mechanic)
Machinist
Metal Fabricator (Fitter)
Mobile Crane Operator
Mobile Crane Operator (Hydraulic)
Motor Vehicle Body Repairer (Metal and Paint)
Motorcycle Mechanic
Oil Heat System Technician
Painter and Decorator
Partsperson
Plumber
Powerline Technician
Recreation Vehicle Service Technician
Refrigeration and Air Conditioning Mechanic
Rig Technician
Roofer
Sheet Metal Worker
Sprinkler System Installer
Steamfitter / Pipefitter
Tilesetter
Tool and Die Maker
Tower Crane Operator
Transport Trailer Technician
Truck and Transport Mechanic
Welder

In the states especially the South we don't have apprentiships (sp) and most of us have no idea what you are saying when you say Red Seal.
 

emilsr

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Re: Trades employed scale 1-10

Yep. Even trying to get into civil service with the army can be a pain, especially now since there is a hiring freeze with few exceptions.

Pretty soon they may be working (and getting paid for) a 4-day work week.

Not exactly a trade, but grocery stores will ALWAYS be around.
 

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Re: Trades employed scale 1-10

A few trades to add to your list;
Machinist. Mason. Barber/Cosmetologist. Bartender. Landscaper.

IMHO building trades are either feast or famine. Out of them all, the Plumber probably wins out (there's always a clogged toilet, or leaky faucet). But the others make their big cake when the economy is up, and people are building new houses/ or renovating. Other than that, they are dependant on Fire, Flood, Rot, code violations, or acts of God. I will say though, when the money is good, it's great. Most people I know in these trades have really nice homes, and drive nice cars. The downfall is when the economy shifts, affording to keep these can be difficult.

Mechanics... Something I know a bit about. We always have work. My favorite saying is "If fixing cars was fun or easy, I'd be out of a job". If you are competent, you can get a job with in a week, maybe 2 tops. With a good job, you'll live a comfortable existence. But you'll never get rich though.

I.T. People.. Seems like a steady line of work, but if a company goes belly up like allot of them, I don't know how quickly you're going to find another gig.

Cooks... Yeah, people have to eat. But they don't need to eat at a restaurant. Seems the most secure place to be if you're a cook is either in a hospital/nursing home, or working at a school cafeteria.

Just my .2?, others may disagree... ;)

I think that electricians are up there with the plumbers. I have been an electrician since '89. There is usually somebody looking to finish a basement or a garage. And many of them have a serious dislike for what electricity feels like. Saying that I've been out of work for a total of about 6 weeks sine Dec of '89.

In '05 I also got my Red Seal in Millwright. Although I don't have any immediate plans to use it, it's nice to have.

Then in '11 I got something called a CRSP. It's a safety designation. Now I keep an eye on the trades to make sure that are working safety. Having the other two tickets helps me to know the right way to do things and the "real way" that things are done.

I have always worked on what we call Mega-projects. These are multi-billion dollar projects in the oil and gas sector. So as long as the price of oil stays high there are projects to work on.

For those people thinking about advice for going into the trades. They have been very good to me, but one thing to consider is how the trades are employed. What I mean is that as projects progress think about which trades are used when.

For example, civil trades are there first, with pipe fitters and electricians. Fitters put in the under ground services(sewer, fire water) while electricians put in the ground grid for the buildings that are coming later. After the foundations are the iron workers doing the steel frame of the buildings. Fitters slow down a little, while electricians are doing temp power. Once the steel is done fitters, scaffolders, labourers start coming and more electricians to start running cable tray and lighting. A little bit later the HVAC and milwrights come in to start setting pumps and run the ducting. As piping gets up to about the 60% mark the instrument guys start coming in to set the gauges. The last trades are the electricians and fits to do the commissioning. This where the leaks and mistakes show up.
 

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agree.

here's the list of red seal trades. Maybe a better list to get opinions on:

Agricultural Equipment Technician
Appliance Service Technician
Automotive Painter
Automotive Service Technician
Baker
Boilermaker
Bricklayer
Cabinetmaker
Carpenter
Concrete Finisher
Construction Craft Worker
Construction Electrician
Cook
Drywall Finisher and Plasterer
Electric Motor System Technician
Floorcovering Installer
Gasfitter - Class A
Gasfitter - Class B
Glazier
Hairstylist
Heavy Duty Equipment Technician
Heavy Equipment Operator
Industrial Electrician
Industrial Mechanic (Millwright)
Instrumentation and Control Technician
Insulator (Heat and Frost)
Ironworker (Generalist)
Ironworker (Reinforcing)
Ironworker (Structural / Ornamental)
Landscape Horticulturist
Lather (Interior Systems Mechanic)
Machinist
Metal Fabricator (Fitter)
Mobile Crane Operator
Mobile Crane Operator (Hydraulic)
Motor Vehicle Body Repairer (Metal and Paint)
Motorcycle Mechanic
Oil Heat System Technician
Painter and Decorator
Partsperson
Plumber
Powerline Technician
Recreation Vehicle Service Technician
Refrigeration and Air Conditioning Mechanic
Rig Technician
Roofer
Sheet Metal Worker
Sprinkler System Installer
Steamfitter / Pipefitter
Tilesetter
Tool and Die Maker
Tower Crane Operator
Transport Trailer Technician
Truck and Transport Mechanic
Welder

Here in our little part of the world alot of those trades need to be brought in from larger centers as there is not alot of work to support them in our area alone.
Much like my company I need to bid work across the province to keep me going
But I think the root of my origanal questions stems from the point of view, "what is the most" available work for small centers like mine over the course of high and lows in the economy.


BTW alot of the people that live here work in the patch or in mines and come home every 2 weeks or so for a week or 2 off.
 

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Pretty soon they may be working (and getting paid for) a 4-day work week.

Not exactly a trade, but grocery stores will ALWAYS be around.

I maybe one of those working 4 days a week. I know one thing I will be doing on that off day. Looking for a new job.
 

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In the states especially the South we don't have apprentiships (sp) and most of us have no idea what you are saying when you say Red Seal.
A Red Seal is an extra test we write when we do the Journeymen exam. It allows a Journeyman from one province to travel and work in another province. Without it the other province has the option to say that the standards are not met. The Red Seal helps do away with that by having a single standard across the country.

I have 2 Red Seals. One in electrical and one in Millwright.
 

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A Red Seal is an extra test we write when we do the Journeymen exam. It allows a Journeyman from one province to travel and work in another province. Without it the other province has the option to say that the standards are not met. The Red Seal helps do away with that by having a single standard across the country.

I have 2 Red Seals. One in electrical and one in Millwright.

Ok, now I know.
 
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