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[Copespitter]

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I doubt if any of us is "celebrating" his death.<br />It doesn't change my life that he's dead but I think he got what he deserved 20 years to late.<br /><br />I think alot of people need to die in this world. We would all be better off.<br />I wouldn't have a problem pulling the trigger on some scum thats trying to take an innocent persons life.

 

[QC]

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Originally posted by deputydawg:<br /> punishment not revenge

It is neither. It is justice.

 

[QC]

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Originally posted by Copespitter:<br /> I wouldn't have a problem pulling the trigger on some scum thats trying to take an innocent persons life.

I'd be proud to do that. I am not putting my application into the state to be the executioner though. Somebody did . . .

 

[Limited-Time]

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Originally posted by theriver:<br /><br />As far as discussing OJ, well, that was already beaten to death I'm sure. The jury system does work, but you have to admit when you have 2 people commit murder, and 1 dies and 1 goes free, and its because 1 had high priced lawyers and the other did not, its the system that is failing. There are 100's of Tookies out there. I'm not suggesting they don't deserve what's coming to them, but when you see Robert Blake and OJ walk, there is a huge injustice going on.

Agreed in point. But without being on the jury and viewing the entire case how can an informed verdict or judgment be reached? I feel OJ and Robert Blake are guilty as well. But I only have the media version of the events. In criminal cases you only need prove reasonable doubt to obtain a not guilty verdict. Maybe that’s where the issue lies. If there is no reasonable doubt all the high prices *****s………..er………..a……I mean….lawyers are not going to help.

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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The OJ case was a circus, period.<br />From the slow speed pursuit to the verdict, pure circus.

 

[LadyFish]

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It is sad whenever an innocent life is taken, but it is the highest form of public service when the trash is taken out.<br /><br />We have no idea how many people Tookie Williams killed. All we know is he was convicted of four brutal murders. He claims innocence but bragged to others about the gurgling sounds Albert Owens made as he died.<br /><br />Tookie Williams is not merely a murderer. He is a murderer who enjoyed it. I celebrate his death. Too bad it was over all too soon.<br /><br />While Williams was in prison he was still a violent man. The periods of time he was described as peaceful and God Fearing were the periods of time he was in solitary confinement because of the attacks against other prisoners and guards.<br /><br />While he was supposedly writing his children's books, while some nutcase was nominating him to for the Nobel Peace Prize, he was planning a prison escape in a transport bus where the bus would be bombed and everyone killed. Tookie Williams' hallmark was leaving no witnesses.<br /><br />Yes, I celebrate his death.<br /><br />Murderers, which he was, aren't haunted by their deeds or feel true remorse. They relish the memories. They relive them over and over in extreme pleasure. <br /><br />William Bonin, the Freeway Killer has already been put to death. He enjoyed his crimes so much he relived them by endless writings over how good it felt to strangle the young boys. He described dumping the bodies along the freeways as carrying meat. <br /><br />The death penalty is perhaps the only way to deprive these killers of their enjoyment.<br /><br />Tookie Williams was belligerant and defiant to the end. We have no loss in the likes of Tookie "Stan" Williams.

 

[alden135]

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What Ladyfish said.

 

[snapperbait]

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One down... Several to go!....<br /><br />I'm with ya, LF....

 

[technostingray]

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Originally posted by BassCat73:<br /> WIth little doubt, then man probably got what he deserved... <br /><br />Cheering for joy at someone's death... regardless of who it is, is pretty callous!

I don't have any opinion on this subject, but I sure would like to know if you borrowed that fish from JB?

 

[QC]

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Originally posted by theriver:<br /><br />but when you see Robert Blake and OJ walk

There were eyewitnesses to the Stanley Williams thing.

 

[QC]

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LF,<br /><br />You are awesome!

 

[theriver]

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How could you miss that afro?

 

[SoulWinner]

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Absolutely with LF. When he was captured, the victims families celebrated, and society gave a sigh of relief. When he was tried the victims families held out hope for his conviction, and society hoped for justice to be served. When he was convicted, the victims families celebrated, along with those of us who respect the rule of law, and care more for the victims and their families than the murdering scum on trial. When he was sentenced there was celebration. Now that his sentence has been carried out, there is again cause for celebration. Not for his death, but for the justice that was served to the innocent lives he took. It's all so simple, no wonder the liberals don't get it....

 

[rolmops]

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Originally posted by Link:<br />

Originally posted by rolmops:<br /> A man died last night. It was probably the right thing.<br />It is not a reason to celebrate.

And you wouldnt celebrate the death of Hitler?<br />Give me a break. you cant have it both ways...<br />I'm glad they are both dead.

You put me on the spot there,Link.<br />But my opinion comes from a long discussed idea.<br />It boils down to a comment on some phrases in what you call the old testament.Where it says that you shall be impure for eight days because you have blood on your hands.It may be the blood of your enemy,but it is you who killed him and thereby you killed one who was created in My image.<br />In here there is no judgement passed on the one killed.The message here is that those who hand out the justice and those who are victorious in battle ,should never celebrate the death of their enemy.<br />You may celebrate your victory,but only after 8 days so it will give you some time to think it over<br />As for hitler.I would never waste my time on celebrating his death,for I am too busy mourning his victims,which include more than a few members of my family.

 

[rolmops]

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PW2,maybe your club and mine are a bit closer.

 

[BassCat73]

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"Not for his death, but for the justice that was served to the innocent lives he took" <br /><br />Agreed.<br /><br />It's interesting, I have a feeling had this been a discussion in person, we'd all be on the same page. There are a lot of ways to interpret the word "celebrate". I twisted the thread a bit and used the word cheer, which is not the same as celebrate. I think to celebrate can actually be an appropriate response, notably for people related to the situation. I just get a little irked when death related gets dehumanized (dirt nap, party). Death should be respected. I'm not saying that Tookie, himself, deserves anything... any type of respect or otherwise. <br /><br />The penalty was appropriate. <br /><br />Oh, fish be mine Techno!

 

[FSHKPR]

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wow alot of you both surprised me and disappointed me. did the man get what he deserved? definitatly. but to rejoice and celebrate a death. wow!!

 

[Kalian]

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PW2,<br />A true Cristian would never celebrate anybodys death. They would mourn the lost soul. I am not a practicing Christian, but I know the dogma and it is truly a noble religion. They preach love and redemption, not hate and violence. There are many groups out there that malign the name of Christian by doing the oposite of what the bible teaches but professing christianity. <br /> I'm not trying to preach to you, like I said, I'm not a practicing Christian, but I hate to see people make the kind of statements you made. Christianity is getting trashed all the time, and I think it's to the detriment of our society. <br /> I'm not saying the people who made those statements are not true christians, I don't know or care. Sometimes people say things that sound callous without realizing what it implies. Perhaps if more cold blooded killers were executed, people wouldn't feel the way they do when justice finaly IS served, albeit 20 years late. I.E. "what? I can't believe it! You mean they finaly got it right this time? He's not gonna walk like all the others?"<br /> For the record, I agree that he got whats coming to him. I could definetly put a bullet in his head and sleep well that night, but I don't know about actualy celebrating it. Death is cold and final. <br /> I agree about death sentences only for those without any doubt as to their guilt. As for life in prison, it should be a life of labor. But labor that actualy pays all the costs of their interment, as well as some money left over for a victims fund.

 

[Kenneth Brown]

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I'm extremely happy that it was carried out. I'm not celebrating because it was a man. 5 years ago I would have been at the front of the line. I'd had a party waiting to see him die, me buying the beer too. Life isn't about all that. I feel love for my enemies now. I can't say that I have any love for Williams but he deserves a certain amount of respect simply because he was a man. The unit I am assigned to has a high number of sex offenders. I HAVE to look the other way and treat them as a person. I don't like the idea of doing that but its my job. Be happy he's dead if ya want but notice what Rolmops said above about the blood. <br />.<br />.<br />.<br />.<br />Shoulda just kept my mouth shut. Things ain't right here anymore. I find myself agreeing with people that were my exact oppisite here lately. Weird ain't it? I guess we are wearing off on each other, all blending.

 

[RubberFrog]

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Wow, I thought I was the sensitive one.... (said that for technos benefit).... all these philosophical "love-the-murderer types... give me a break... tookie was a murdering piece oftrash and the world is better without him in it<br /><br />I celebrate every time some murdering scum is removed from the planet.