IMHO I'm just not as quick as some of you to jump to conclussions.......its a pretty big leap to assume that what Swedish liberals do is going to have some profound effect on American Libs. Let the Swedish do whatever they what, I couldn't care less.
[colour=blue]The American Libs, (including Justices on the US Supreme Court) look to Liberal Europe, (where their low birth rates assure Muslim dominance within 50 years) for their future plans for you and I. Ignore this simple fact at your and your future children's peril: Pony. I can see where it is a 'big leap' for you, but experience will teach you what the old guys, (I think Boom may be an old guy), have learned. Good news is that people like Boom and I and many others here and all over this Great Country will resist as long as possible to try to keep what is left of our Founding Father's gifts to all of us. We are loosing the battle to Algore and his army: Pony. Hope the rest of you folks wake up and help in the 'culture war'.[/colour]
If you are referring to Froggy's thread, you are being a bit "liberal" with your interpretation. Despite what you may think, forcing automakers to utilize technology they already to have to reduce emmissions is NOT the same as increasing regulation on everything that produces CO2.
[colour=blue]How is my rant Liberal? Pony: my man, I don't like to 'force' any private segment of our great economy to do anything, (unless it is REAL IMPORTANT DUE TO THE SERIOUS DOWNSIDE). When ya "force" ya need police, courts n' prisons, (please remember that). After ya kill the industry yer pickin' on, (with the 'force' yer talkin' 'bout) and the Chinese are doin' what ya used ta do before the ol' 'force' forced 'em outa business, ya then need unemployment, retraining n' welfare. Simple progression: Pony.The market actually works, (shocking: I know). All matters of big but not critical importance can be addressed by taking advantage of the market NOT SOCIALISM! The government is the least efficient segment and the private sector is the most efficient. Have you noticed the dire health of America's once great Auto business? Do you think that is an accident? Nanny government has real cornsaquences, (some would call 'em profound). That is a fact, and facts do in fact matter. So stand yer ground n' vote to pass second hand smoke laws n' CO2 laws, (what ever floats yer boat), others have their 'favorite' issues, (which the cummulative effect could result in the USSR, if all of us are not vigilant). That all said: the growth of government in scope n' power n' technology really is contrary to what the Founding Fathers handed ya a little over 200 years ago. Somethin' ta ponder my friend. REAL HEAVY CORNCEPT FOR ALL AMERICANS TA PONDER DON'T YA THINK?[/colour]
No one is talking about making cars and boats illegal, just ensuring that the new models are cleaner for the sake of everyone.
[colour=blue]Oh really, I beg ta differ. The track record of do good nanny government is a little different then ya might think: Pony. If I fill in a swamp on RR island, ya think I don't go to jail or pay a huge fine if I get caught by a eco cop Pony? Please think this out my friend. How 'bout killin' a seal or eagle. Ya think I could get away with that if I wanted to, (which I don't)? Big government is much more powerfull then you think, and the TREND, (as a former stock broker I have this thing with trends), IS UNMISTAKABLE TO THOSE WITH EYES n' a brain cell or two.[/colour]
Maybe I care about that because well me and my kids (when i have em) will have to live with the consequences of not doing so.
All respect to ya OMR, I respect both you and your opinion......but I have to stand my ground.
Regulation can be bad, in fact horrible, but without it, we wouldnt have many fish to catch or woodlands to enjoy.
[colour=blue]It is a mixed bag. The number of regulations has expanded exponentially over the last fifty years, (same about the fifty years prior too). STOP NOW! THINGS ARE STILL WORKING, (barely). Worship GOD or yourself NOT THE GOVERNMENT.[/colour]
Without regulations someone without common sense was bound to destroy it.
[colour=blue]Then why do we even exist? This massive regulation is fairly new, and dramatically accelerating: don't ya know that? PLEASE THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU JUST SAID! If ya set up all laws, courts, cops, n' prisons there will be little left to produce. Why do Liberal societies have a negative birth rate? Please think. Respectfully, (and I mean it to you Pony, and to the rest too) JR[/colour]