This burns my ****

rudeafrican

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It really burns me to hear citizen of a country bashing their leader while they are abroad. This is a c&p from one of our news channels.<br /><br />Unabashed Bush-bashing<br />20/01/2005 15:00 - (SA) <br /><br /> <br />Vienna - In Geneva, they'll read patriotic poetry. In Vienna, they'll drown their sorrows and plot their revenge. In London, they'll stage a candlelight protest outside the United States Embassy. <br /><br />Across Europe, a place none too friendly to George W Bush, locals and American expatriates united in their opposition to the US president were marking his inauguration on Thursday with some unabashed Bush-bashing. <br /><br />Austria's Democrats Abroad, which scrapped plans for a black-tie "un-augural ball" because of the tsunami in southern Asia, said its members instead would gather at a traditional Vienna wine bar "to scheme, plot and plan the retaking of our country." <br /><br />In Britain, anti-Bush demonstrators planned a candlelight protest outside the American embassy in central London, staged by the Stop the War Coalition, which organised mass rallies opposing the Iraq conflict in 2003. <br /><br />Rather than watch the Washington inauguration on television, the United Kingdom contingent of Democrats Abroad organised a talk by liberal author Ron Suskind, whose book The Price of Loyalty - an insider account of Paul O'Neill's time as US treasury secretary - paints an unflattering portrait of Bush. <br /><br />Bush's re-election was widely seen as negative for global peace and security in 16 of 21 countries polled in a BBC World Service survey released on the eve of the inauguration. On average across all the countries, 58% called his re-election a negative development; only 26%t described it as positive. <br /><br />Protesters in Germany got an early start with a candlelight vigil on Wednesday evening in front of Berlin's landmark Brandenburg Gate, where they held a dozen American flags upside down to symbolise an SOS distress call. <br /><br />"We're Americans who vote, and who have a voice in US policy," said Elsa Rassbach of American Voices Abroad, which organised the event in the country that had overwhelmingly backed Democrat John Kerry for president. <br /><br />"I think there's alarm here, so I think many Germans would be happy that many US citizens don't agree with Bush," she said. <br /><br />Another group, Vote 44, which formed in Europe to promote a 44th president to replace Bush, planned a protest rally at the Brandenburg Gate for Thursday under the slogan: "You've Got a Voice." <br /><br />"We call on all people worldwide who are against the policies of the Bush government to take part in the demonstration or organise one in their own cities," the organisation said in a statement. <br /><br />In southwestern France, Democrats Abroad screened a film called "Bush's Brain" and called on its supporters in Paris to dress in Kerry blue and gather at a trendy bar for "a dialogue of truth about the Bush agenda and its global effect on all of us." <br /><br />Associated Press writers Michael McDonough in London, Bradley S Klapper in Geneva, Matt Surman in Berlin and Kate Brumback in Paris contributed to this story.
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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Yea it's bad, but they have him for 4 more years anyway. :cool:
 

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Hey RA.. Where ya been? Good to see you typing it up again. :) <br />That article is typical. Reminicent of the Dipsy Chinks, Jane Fonda and Sean Penn. It is to be expected.<br />As for the French and Germans, I feel equally as cold towards them as they do us (in general, of course).
 

rudeafrican

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Heya 12ftr, thanks man. I've been getting my boat seaworthied for an upcomming fishing holiday. Here by us you can't believe the rigmarole you have to get a sea worthy certificate. Ah well I suppose in the end it is for our own safety.
 

NYMINUTE

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I have a few things for French! (pew) I think it is time to begin 4 years of French Bashing. We can include those Germans too who are confused. BTW, Euorpeans....Don't bother visiting the US. We cleaned up last week.
 

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Well lets see, I will admit thats it's been 28 years since the last time I was in France. And it is now the 21st Century. But as of just 28 years ago they still didn't know how to make a decent cup of coffee. So who cares what they think! ;) <br />-----------------------------------------------<br />I just did a C&P up to this point with a friend in France.<br /><br /><br />rudeafrican Timing is everything:<br />30 years ago I met a fellow HAM operater (amateur radio operater) in France. In the town where my last name comes from. We have always kept in contact via ham and now since the internet.<br /><br />I did a C&P of this post and he like always forgets he speaks perfect English.. and goes into a no no no weee don't think thet way.. it b media.. LOL then reminds me of our first contact, since I made the remark about coffee.. Your not cultered enough to appreciate coffee or tea he says! He helped set me up for my first cup of coffee in France! <br /><br /> <br />I have many many friends across Europe and their news media is just like ours.. very liberal and very biased. Don't get to upset about it. <br />Your only hearing one voice who claims to speak for all. <br /><br />Jauck speaks for the middle class of France.. not the elite left wing. They are about the same as us... <br />Middle class working people.. that dont agree with thier news media!
 

kenimpzoom

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Just how many people are we talking about. Why is this news? Why would the press print this, with so few people being involved. Perhaps the media has a thing against Bush????<br /><br />Ken
 

eeboater

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Originally posted by rudeafrican:<br />This burns my ****
I'm trying to figure out what 4 letter swear word fits in that sentence....<br /><br /><br /> :) <br /><br /><br />Sean
 

rogerwa

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What torks me off about this kind of stuff is the 'take back our country' talk. Hey its my country too and I voted for Bush.<br /><br />If they truly want to take back 'their'country, the proper channels are open to do that. Get involved in the political process. Put the candidates and message out there. If they are int he minority, which clearly the democratic currently is, then is they g along with the majority. That is how this country is run. The protests are meaningnless as that will not bring about the change they desire.<br /><br />Bush was voted in by the people, and don't comment on the electoral college. That was done to eliminate bastions such as NY and CA from running the whole country.<br /><br />When Clinton was pres I never once thought we should deny him or protest the inauguration. The people had spoken. In the end I was on his team. The dems and liberals fail on this point. In the end we need to be on the same team. They just can't do it. That is why they are wrong.<br /><br />I am just so sick of this behavior (Boxer and Kerry most recently) that I could just puke.
 

dogsdad

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When the world does go to the dogs, it will be theirs---for a little while. I can't wait to see them swept from the universe. Forever.<br /><br /><br />-dd-
 

cmyers_uk

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The only news I saw covered the ceremony in the UK with no mention of protests. It seemed quite pro-bush. You always get a few anti war people protesting on odd days but thats the freedom that so many fought for and I respect their right to protest isnt that what democracy is all about.
 

rodbolt

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hello<br /> while I was against the reasons for the supposed war once the decision was made to do it my big contention was our troops did not and still do not have the proper troop strength and equipment to do the task asked of them. however the ground pounders are doing amazing things with what they have been given to work with. I still dont agree with the administrations policies however my critisism is not one of throw the bums out its one of if we are going to do it do it right. I am not brilliant but we cant control our own borders much less the borders of iraq with the troop strength we have, 150k troops cant control a population of 25 million.<br /> aint gonna happen in our lifetime.
 

agitator

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I have traveled reasonably extensively in many of the european countries and most of those socialist countries have plenty to worry about with their high taxes and massive unemployment without worrying about who is president in the U.S.
 

agitator

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Oh yes! We can control our borders anytime whichever party is in power decides to. So far neither is inclined to do so. That,s one of the few things John Kerry didn,t promise to do either. Clinton pretended not to notice it was a sieve as did his predecessors.
 

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Originally posted by agitator:<br /> Oh yes! We can control our borders anytime whichever party is in power decides to. So far neither is inclined to do so. That,s one of the few things John Kerry didn,t promise to do either. Clinton pretended not to notice it was a sieve as did his predecessors.
Yes. We are the USA. We can do anything we commit to. And as you stated, that is the fly in the ointment (getting a commitment from anyone).<br />If the conservative side plugs the leaks, they are "racist, jack-booted thugs".<br />The "progressives" ( i love thier new label, BTW), are allready stuck.<br />We can control the borders, if we choose to. But would this still be "America"?<br />We have never done it before, and it's just not what we are. What we are is a cross-section of the planet's population. Every race and former nationality is "US".<br />Until the early 60's, most immigrants assimilated into Americans. But they do not even bother anymore. Be afraid. be very afraid!
 

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Imagine that, An American questioning the policies of their government. It's a disgrace. But that is a fundamental requisite for a functioning democracy, which the founding fathers understood.<br /><br />For all those that want to export freedom and democracy to the corners of the earth, why are you so uncomfortable practising it at home?
 

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I have a cousin that lives in Paris, but is an American citizen. He has 3 boys that are all in their 20's. They have been raised in France and have duel nationality. When we were there a couple of years ago, he told me that they want nothing to do with the US and have essentially renounced their citizenship. I think that the US critizim is learned in the schools and with their peers. The media probably is to blame as well. A year ago when the pics of the cemetaries of US Servicemen buried in France from WWII were going around, I emailed them to my cuz. He knows, said he watched Leno every night. I am amazed how quickly people forget the great things America has done for others especially the French. NO GOOD DEED EVER GOES UNPUNISHED. God bless America, It seems no one else will.
 

snapperbait

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Until the early 60's, most immigrants assimilated into Americans. But they do not even bother anymore. Be afraid. be very afraid!
Yep.. And we cater to em', don't we... Heck, I heard ol' Governor Jebby flappin' his gumbs in some spanish jibberish on the tube the other nite... Talking to his hispanic constituants.. :rolleyes: <br /><br />I'm waiting for Dubya to give the state of the union addy in espanol.... Que pasa me fellow amigos.... Oy ya como va... <br /><br />I best quit now....
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dogsdad

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Originally posted by snapperbait:<br />[QB <br /><br />I'm waiting for Dubya to give the state of the union addy in espanol.... Que pasa me fellow amigos.... Oy ya como va... <br /><br />I best quit now....
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Yeah, you should. Tu espanol es muy feo!
 

dogsdad

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Originally posted by PW2:<br /> Imagine that, An American questioning the policies of their government. It's a disgrace. But that is a fundamental requisite for a functioning democracy, which the founding fathers understood.<br /><br />For all those that want to export freedom and democracy to the corners of the earth, why are you so uncomfortable practising it at home?
Lemme see if I understand this...those who talk down the USA abroad are criticized, and PW2 wants it to stop.<br /><br />Yup. It is as I thought. He is the one who is uncomfortable practicing democracy [I think we should say freedom of speech) at home....a perfect operative definition of hypocrisy!<br /><br /><br />-dd-
 
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